Player Watch #38 Noah Cumberland - Delisted

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_RT_ said:
As I said I've been critical of Noah for that lack of defensive accountability and concentration, but suggesting that his deficiencies in these areas is the reason the oppositions whole back line have a lot of score involvements is wrong. As mentioned we're ranked 2nd for turnovers conceded, so it's more likely that when we do turnover the ball heading into our F50 that we get exposed on the counter.

Add to this that score involvements occur when a player is involved in a chain of play that results in a score. So if you've got a team that uses a lot of short possession chip and mark, like the Dogs do, players can rack up a large number of score involvements. The Dogs had 31 scores last night, but a whopping 132 score involvements, which suggests that a lot of chip and mark build up play saw a number of players getting involved and getting credited with a score involvement.
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Having the bont on fire didn’t help. All other reasons considered, Swap him in our team ( for anyone of our mids) and I bet the scores would’ve been a lot closer.
 
https://youtu.be/woNTvzAR2Ic


I know it’s just highlight but he’s finish last year was incredible. I’ve said it before, to find himself behind the pecking order of an old workhorse midfielder in the forward line is a joke. I love Cotchin and am happy that he got to 300. But it should have been as a sub or rotating off the bench.

The club didn’t make the right calls this year (or the last couple) to chase a flag with their dying champions.
 

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Livonski said:
Saw him in the rooms post game. Absolutely ripped rig on him.
I’d persevere, he can find the ball and if he can calm down will be a weapon.
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Would be wrong to drop him based on 1 game. Don’t be surprised if that’s what happens.
 
Meteoric Rise said:
You might be misunderstanding what I am saying. We all notice when our players commit a turnover, especially where it looks like a 2 score swing. But we don't notice so much when a 2 score swing is caused by a player not being in the correct position and exhibiting the right intent in our defensive structure.

On the question of turnovers, here are our leading turnover players this season:

5.9 per match Taranto
5.1 Short
4.5 Bolton
4.3 Martin
4.1 Balta
3.9 Baker, Hopper
3.8 Prestia
3.7 Cumberland
3.6 Pickett, Vlastuin
3.5 Lynch
3.3 McIntosh
3.2 Banks
3.1 Ross
2.9 Young
2.8 Riewoldt
2.7 Nankervis, Cotchin
2.6 Broad
2.5 Ralphsmith

What conclusions would YOU draw from that list?
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What stands out to me from that list is Broad. As a defender you expect him to be well up the list.
Probably doesn’t have high numbers of possessions though, so less likely to turn it over.
Otherwise no surprises on there, perhaps other than HRS being down so low, but again he has been sub a few times so probably low possessions mean less turnovers on average.
 
shaky said:
What stands out to me from that list is Broad. As a defender you expect him to be well up the list.
Probably doesn’t have high numbers of possessions though, so less likely to turn it over.
Otherwise no surprises on there, perhaps other than HRS being down so low, but again he has been sub a few times so probably low possessions mean less turnovers on average.
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Turnovers as a percentage of possessions would be more illuminating. And who is getting them i.e. an inside mid scrambling under a pack and tackled while kicking would turn it over much more than a Broad who often kicks 25m sideways
 
Vassp said:
Taranto is going to win the BF 😭. Hmm hitting targets….funny how so many seem to miss this SMALL detail.
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Gets a lot more of the ball than most other players and a lot of them under pressure in the midfield, so no wonder he is so high on the list.
Would be interested to see first half year stat vs 2nd half. Feel he has improved during the year.
That said, would like to see further improvement on this also.
 
Vassp said:
Taranto is going to win the BF 😭. Hmm hitting targets….funny how so many seem to miss this SMALL detail.
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He's had less than Oliver who is considered the best inside mid in the comp. Not much higher than Bont/Petracca either. Maybe its the role they play
 

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He's just lacking confidence in the seniors, you can see he's so worried about making a mistake he effectively talks himself into doing it.

Like a golfer, telling themselves "don't slice it, don't slice it", next thing, massive slice... He's so worried about making them mistake, because it's led to him being dropped all year, that it's happening way more than he should.

I bet if he was told he's playing the last few games no matter what, you will see a massive improvement, no risk hanging over his head.
 
Hank Heavenly said:
He's just lacking confidence in the seniors, you can see he's so worried about making a mistake he effectively talks himself into doing it.

Like a golfer, telling themselves "don't slice it, don't slice it", next thing, massive slice... He's so worried about making them mistake, because it's led to him being dropped all year, that it's happening way more than he should.

I bet if he was told he's playing the last few games no matter what, you will see a massive improvement, no risk hanging over his head.
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100%
See how calm and clinical he was in the latest VFL game where he kicked 6

Only a matter of time when it clicks for him in the AFL team
 
tiger_tough said:
You just know he's going to be dropped for Dusty this week while Picket, McIntosh, Graham etc all keep on keeping on.
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beside dusty they all play a critical role in a failing gameplan, you simply cant drop any of them. we'd risk surprising oppo coaches with a less predictable style of footy.
 
Drunken Wookie said:
beside dusty they all play a critical role in a failing gameplan, you simply cant drop any of them. we'd risk surprising oppo coaches with a less predictable style of footy.
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Or we can play all the youngsters at once and beat top of the ladder team ala Hawks who knows we aren't beating any top teams anytime soon worth the shot lol
 
wegetpumped said:
Or we can play all the youngsters at once and beat top of the ladder team ala Hawks who knows we aren't beating any top teams anytime soon worth the shot lol
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Can't buy development like that. Our kids are just window dressing. Only get games when a veteran is injured or there's a mid season retirement.
 
Grrr said:
He won't get dropped. Go get your money back, put your money on Kmac, 1000/1 much better odds.
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Bastards they claim injured when he got dropped I lost my 2 bucks I think I'll sue the club 40 cents is 40 cents.:'( I put one buck on someone else's Idea and lost that too, now I can't even go to Maccas for a cheeseburger f my life :'(:'(:'(
 
wegetpumped said:
Bastards they claim injured when he got dropped I lost my 2 bucks I think I'll sue the club 40 cents is 40 cents.:'( I put one buck on someone else's Idea and lost that too, now I can't even go to Maccas for a cheeseburger f my life :'(:'(:'(
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You didn't really put your money on Mac to get dropped did you. Call 1800 858 858
 

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