Misunderstanding my comments if you think I’m questioning his hardness. Just went to another level in 2017, as you’ve correctly pointed out.
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Player Watch #40 Tyler Sonsie
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If any of the recruiters saw him dodge a contest they wouldn’t have recruited him. So congratulations you much watch more junior football than our recruiting staff. That is dedication
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we shouldn’t be comparing Sonsie to Cotchin at this stage of his career or probably not at any stage. Cotchin was a superstar in the making at junior level just like Judd, Pendlebury, Dusty , Hodge and many others . Sonsie is never going to reach those levels and can still be a very good footballer for our club. Sonsie FWIW is more outside and probably better by foot , but not by hands. Still two rungs below Cotchin in terms of leadership, hardness and overall class.
I hope I'm just making a really poor read, but I just don't see it with Sonsie like other people are.
It's one of those "what am I missing" moments, he looks okay, but nothing special to me at this stage and I don't have particular high hopes. In fact if I had to make a call now, I'd lean towards him ending up a disappointment to expectations rather than long term exceeding them.
It's one of those "what am I missing" moments, he looks okay, but nothing special to me at this stage and I don't have particular high hopes. In fact if I had to make a call now, I'd lean towards him ending up a disappointment to expectations rather than long term exceeding them.
he’s closer to Conca than Cotchin.
How quickly we forget that even as a junior Cotchin enjoyed the physical side of the game and had elite evasiveness .
Ah yes.
Back when Cotchin played in Hawthorn colours.
In 2012, Cotchin was the sole reason I became a lot more fanatical in my Tiger supporting. Richo had been gone for a while, we were shit, but Cotch was the type of player you could build a side around.
After that, Cotch went through his period of dinky 1-2 possessions for a while, was regularly perceived as one of the weaker captains in the league before going back to his 2012 style and becoming our triple-premiership-captain.
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If you watch Sonsie in the Gold Coast game at Marvel last year, you'd be surprised he's still on the list. He was terrible. If you watch Sonsie in the first half of the Brisbane Elimination Final, you'd be surprised that his football ability is being questioned. He was amazing that night.
I feel like that's pretty standard for most young players. I like Sonsie but people do need to remember that no one judged him a top ten pick (or top twenty for that matter), there was always going to need to be development and there was always going to be risk
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The thing is, on football talent alone, he was judged a top ten pick the year before the draft.
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Like 50 other players. They've (almost) all got the talent. It takes a lot more than talent to make it in the AFL.
FWIW, I think Sonsie will make it, but the comparisons to Cotchin are ridiculous.
Judged by who? The AFL scouts had a closer look at his football talent then anyone else and he went where he went. I like him as a player I don't think it's fair that he's being judged like he should be performing as a top pick when he certainly wasn't that
Yeah of course, but as an example I don't think anyone was trying to hold Bolton to Cotch's level of performance in his third season
Hope you don’t think that’s what I was saying!! No way would I expect him to be at that level yet.
I just think he has very similar traits. Great around contests in winning the clearances, positioning and vision (that kick to Steely Green in the scratch match last Sunday was outstanding) with super skills and just so footy smart.
He’s nowhere near the finished product, but I think he will be a very good player, and seems to have the will to succeed if his condition upon return to training this off season is anything to go by.
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One game he played on the wing (Horrible but No Excuse) the other in the midfield
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The Fonsie will be a very good footballer for the club, don't forget his development was stifled due to COVID.
sregit
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How many times is COVID to be used as an excuse? Go have a look at the 2021 draft and you’ll see probably 15 of the best young talent in the AFL. There is no excuses for them.
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That would assume all development is equally linear, it effects individuals differently.
sregit
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More excuses. Our 2021 group are underwhelming. Hopefully that changes. Equally linear or not.
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TBF many of them haven't been given much of a chance. As you say hopefully it changes with a new coach/game plan.
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Will be best 22 by Round 16
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I agree, but a fair prediction. Will you shave if he isn't?
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