Player Watch #41 Sam Banks

[Wooden Robot]

Wow some real Macho Men around here these days calling 19-21 year old kids soft

Fat try hard 'men' that have never played higher than primary school footy criticizing kids that are outside players as being soft

So So tough you 'men' are

Well fanboy, given you never played an AFL game in your life and are the #1 try hard on here, be the first to stop offering your 100 a day opinions.
If your own criteria suggests those of us who haven’t played AFL can’t be right, I’m not sure why you you have become the self proclaimed expert???

 

[Danw0w]

Well fanboy, given you never played an AFL game in your life and are the #1 try hard on here, be the first to stop offering your 100 a day opinions.
If your own criteria suggests those of us who haven’t played AFL can’t be right, I’m not sure why you you have become the self proclaimed expert???

He's calling our people calling him soft. Have whatever opinions you want, but people calling him soft when he is in his second year and hasn't even had a chance to prove himself yet are losers

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

He's calling our people calling him soft. Have whatever opinions you want, but people calling him soft when he is in his second year and hasn't even had a chance to prove himself yet are loosers

Soft fix!

 

[tugga]

Robbie Flower was soft but gee he could play footy!

Flower was a twig and was as brave as they come.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Flower was a twig and was as brave as they come.

The nonsense that invades these threads.
Flower was an absolute champion, brave as they come and a warrior to the end - a Goliath in David's body.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

The nonsense that invades these threads.
Flower was an absolute champion, brave as they come and a warrior to the end - a Goliath in David's body.

Geez your right about the nonsense that absolutely invades these threads...and your quickness in response to highlighting such nonsense...and bringing it all to the attention of BF!...well done you sir!
Really ought to change your avatar name to 'highlighter'...the highlighter for the blind!




See the point I was trying to make in regards to Robbie Flower...and in my haste...yes I'll agree it was a tad laboured and could be, could, be construed as a slur on Robbie Flower's Footy prowess, which was not my point, no sir...not my point! And that some posters may need the obvious spelled out to them...A by B by C into D...cos...well...it may get me into trouble on here if I speak bluntly and plainly enough in my description of their thick as a 2 be 4 wooden obtuseness!

The point of the post...and here lays the nub/knot of it all...was that Robbie Flower...champion footballer that he was soft(imo and not meant as a slur!)...as in an outside player...a very skilled outside player...not a hard physical argy bargy extractor of the footy like say a Cripps and/or a Selwood...but you sir in your wisdom choose to read it's point in a completely opposite way...

 

[Wooden Robot]

Geez your right about the nonsense that absolutely invades these threads...and your quickness in response to highlighting such nonsense...and bringing it all to the attention of BF!...well done you sir!
Really ought to change your avatar name to 'highlighter'...the highlighter for the blind!


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See the point I was trying to make in regards to Robbie Flower...and in my haste...yes I'll agree it was a tad laboured and could be, could, be construed as a slur on Robbie Flower's Footy prowess, which was not my point, no sir...not my point! And that some posters may need the obvious spelled out to them...A by B by C into D...cos...well...it may get me into trouble on here if I speak bluntly and plainly enough in my description of their thick as a 2 be 4 wooden obtuseness!

The point of the post...and here lays the nub/knot of it all...was that Robbie Flower...champion footballer that he was soft(imo and not meant as a slur!)...as in an outside player...a very skilled outside player...not a hard physical argy bargy extractor of the footy like say a Cripps and/or a Selwood...but you sir in your wisdom choose to read it's point in a completely opposite way...

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More nonsense highlighted by your usual batch of a dozen GIFs.\
Flower was equally adept inside as outside and rarely beaten one on one ... hardly soft.
But please, waste yours and our time and give us another dozen GIFs

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

More nonsense highlighted by your usual batch of a dozen GIFs.\
Flower was equally adept inside as outside and rarely beaten one on one ... hardly soft.
But please, waste yours and our time and give us another dozen GIFs

 

[fargothegreat]

Call it soft or whatever you like, but Banks definitely struggles to win his own ball — and that's probably what's held him back from debuting so far.

Right now Banks is looking similar to players like Naish and Menadue. I'm hoping he can evolve his game not to rely solely on others feeding the ball out to him to have an impact.

 

[richard parker]

I've seen him play VFL twice this year and he looks a very likely type. Last time I noticed someone that cruised around as effortlessly in the VFL was Daniel Rioli

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when he got dropped to learn a new role a couple of years ago. He's definitely an excellent runner. Does need to improve his ability to win contested ball though, fingers crossed.

 

[Wooden Robot]

Call it soft or whatever you like, but Banks definitely struggles to win his own ball — and that's probably what's held him back from debuting so far.

Right now Banks is looking similar to players like Naish and Menadue. I'm hoping he can evolve his game not to rely solely on others feeding the ball out to him to have an impact.

Doesn't inspire confidence as a leopard doesn't just change its spots overnight.
Naish, Menadue, CEllis never changed.

 

[Morro]

I think people often confuse soft with a lack of strength. Pulling out of contests is soft and I dont recall seeing too many of these actions from anyone in any AFL team.

heck, the last one I remember was Pickett 2 weeks ago, it looked soft as butter but we all know he aint.

No such thing as a SOFT AFL player IMO

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I think people often confuse soft with a lack of strength. Pulling out of contests is soft and I dont recall seeing too many of these actions from anyone in any AFL team.

*, the last one I remember was Pickett 2 weeks ago, it looked soft as butter but we all know he aint.

No such thing as a SOFT AFL player IMO

What about Ellis...you know, the soft one with a beautiful kick (to Lids) on his leg...

 

[Morro]

What about Ellis...you know, the soft one with a beautiful kick (to Lids) on his leg...

Not soft, the size and speed at which the players play the game nowadays, you wouldnt get a single game if you were soft.

I get thats not the macho bravado displayed on here by so many who are clearly so tough, but it is fact.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Not soft, the size and speed at which the players play the game nowadays, you wouldnt get a single game if you were soft.

I get thats not the macho bravado displayed on here by so many who are clearly so tough, but it is fact.

Stringbean?!? the mighty Angus?!? awesome Lounder?!?

 

[bc27]

Call it soft or whatever you like, but Banks definitely struggles to win his own ball — and that's probably what's held him back from debuting so far.

Right now Banks is looking similar to players like Naish and Menadue. I'm hoping he can evolve his game not to rely solely on others feeding the ball out to him to have an impact.

Far superior ball user than the two players you have mentioned there.
Sam also has a much better football brain and great leadership qualities the those two.

I’m not disagreeing that Sam needs to start getting his hands dirty at times at contests. But I don’t know if you’re fully grasping the difficulties that have come along with his role he has played at VFL level.

He has a huge upside and his skills by foot and decision making is slowly setting him apart at the reserve level.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

I think people often confuse soft with a lack of strength. Pulling out of contests is soft and I dont recall seeing too many of these actions from anyone in any AFL team.

*, the last one I remember was Pickett 2 weeks ago, it looked soft as butter but we all know he aint.

No such thing as a SOFT AFL player IMO

Avoiding body contact is soft and we have a handful of Matt Clarke specials, that are exactly that type. Sonsie and Banks for sure and the jury is still out on Clarke.

Naish and Corey Ellis were the same.

 

[Morro]

Avoiding body contact is soft and we have a handful of Matt Clarke specials, that are exactly that type. Sonsie and Banks for sure and the jury is still out on Clarke.

Naish and Corey Ellis were the same.

I disagree but I also know its an unpopular opinion

 

[bc27]

Avoiding body contact is soft and we have a handful of Matt Clarke specials, that are exactly that type. Sonsie and Banks for sure and the jury is still out on Clarke.

Naish and Corey Ellis were the same.

I disagree but I also know its an unpopular opinion

Avoiding body contact can be interpreted in a lot of ways.

In what way are you suggesting Sonsie and Banks avoid body contact? Because in a few ways I’ve noticed with Tyler Sonsie that he’s chosen to handball over his head rather then take a tackle or turn his body to take a tackle. I don’t classify this as soft but a bad habit

 

[juss]

Avoiding body contact is soft and we have a handful of Matt Clarke specials, that are exactly that type. Sonsie and Banks for sure and the jury is still out on Clarke.

Naish and Corey Ellis were the same.

Give them time, still only kids. Not everyone comes along with the heart of Baker or Cotchin and throws themselves in every contest undersized. Perhaps with a bit more confidence and a hardened AFL body in a year or two we might see some stronger contest work.

I think with those you mentioned, there were also criticisms of guys like Grigg and Houli in their early careers, and they got around those issues and become valuable players.

 

[fargothegreat]

Far superior ball user than the two players you have mentioned there.
Sam also has a much better football brain and great leadership qualities the those two.

I’m not disagreeing that Sam needs to start getting his hands dirty at times at contests. But I don’t know if you’re fully grasping the difficulties that have come along with his role he has played at VFL level.

He has a huge upside and his skills by foot and decision making is slowly setting him apart at the reserve level.

The way we use our wings requires them to hold their width on the outside. However sometimes, when our inside mids are beaten they are required to move inside and try to win or at least halve a contest so the oppo can't clear the ball easily.

Right now Banks can't do that part of the wing role. We trialled him inside a few weeks ago and he barely touched the ball and the midfield unit were badly beaten. I'm hoping with a bit more size he can develop his contest work because he has got a lot of elite attributes like you say (leadership, kicking, decision making).

 

[Lord of the Wings]

I disagree but I also know its an unpopular opinion

You can't succeed at AFL level if you avoid body contact or are scared of it. We've had this type before and they never make it.

 

[tiger_tough]

I think people often confuse soft with a lack of strength. Pulling out of contests is soft and I dont recall seeing too many of these actions from anyone in any AFL team.

*, the last one I remember was Pickett 2 weeks ago, it looked soft as butter but we all know he aint.

No such thing as a SOFT AFL player IMO

 

[Grrr]

Banks is not soft but a player who is not an extractor and his role on the wing in the VFL is to provide an outlet. This involves much of the time making a break to space for an option. It's a 50-50 prospect as they ball may go via the other wing.

VFL grounds are hard to play wide on. The tight dimensions, the skill level, the lack of awareness to take the right option often leave wingmen high and dry.

His no.1 problem for me is his lack of size for his pace, in that respect the Naish comparison is somewhat apt. But he will be bigger than Naish, 187cm is a good size, and he looks a bit faster, and looks tougher to me.

He looks like a player who will play better in better company and feel if and when he gets a game he should do okay.

Sonsie was mentioned also as someone who lacks a bit of ticker. When a player is out of form and down on confidence, then not putting the body on the line is a pretty normal consequence, but when in form not so. Remember how he finished last year, nobody questioned his ticker then. Banks is much the same.

 

[TigerImposter]

Interesting reading, but at this stage this kid needs one more year ib the VFL and if no improvement then he becomes another addition to our Silky Butterfly club.