Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 12: This thread it’s going to disappear; One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear

[ShanDog]

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Thanks.

 

[Gough]

At what point can you say Bin Laden has done less damage to New York than Trump has?

 

[Mick F]

What happened the last time there was a 14 point lead. 12 days before voting no less.

Hillary Clinton Leads Donald Trump by 14 Points Nationally in New Poll

The Democratic nominee leads Trump among likely voters 51% to 37%

www.google.com

Has anyone on this thread intimated that they are the least bit interested in your views??

Your link states “According to the poll, Clinton has support of 90% of likely Democratic voters.”

And???? In a one horse race, you’d hope it was 100%.

 

[ChappyUK]

Has anyone on this thread intimated that they are the least bit interested in your views??

Your link states “According to the poll, Clinton has support of 90% of likely Democratic voters.”

And???? In a one horse race, you’d hope it was 100%.

Sorry to encroach on your little echo chamber.

 

[Financialpanther]

At what point can you say Bin Laden has done less damage to New York than Trump has?

Or the previous GOP government if you believe those websites.

 

[Mick F]

I'd almost like to see the inauguration.

Repeat after me.

I solemnly swear.
I sol...I... sol...you know...the thing

Irony .... back in his night club days Trump’s acquaintances gave him the nickname of Sol. When he arrived they would greet him with a raised arm and “Ah ... Sol!”

No one is sure if he has picked up on it to this day. He was just happy to be ‘accepted’ by the in crowd.

 

[Night Train]

Irony .... back in his night club days Trump’s acquaintances gave him the nickname of Sol. When he arrived they would greet him with a raised arm and “Ah ... Sol!”

No one is sure if he has picked up on it to this day. He was just happy to be ‘accepted’ by the in crowd.

Fascinating.

 

[Doss]

So, not that I expect any of you to self reflect for even a minute, but do any of you consider the actions of the FBI in the Flynn case in any way acceptable? Or do you perhaps think that Shifty literally being told by CEO of Crowd strike they couldn't even confirm the Russians hacked the DNC servers let alone any collusion went on national TV days later to "confirm" they had ample evidence is a responsible way to conduct yourself in public office?

You know, COVID-19 may be a Chicom operation in coordination with the DNCCP to overthrow Trump, honestly it's consistent with their actions to date it'd only be a slight step further than their already known actions.

I have concluded that COVID-19 is actually a Madagascan ploy to inflict their herbal tea concoction on the world. It's all very confusing though. I'm at the point where I'm soaking my clothes in iced tea to get rid of stains and pouring myself a bleach on ice for an afternoon cool me down.

 

[Mick F]

Received an email on this today.
The Don has been in office for 3 years.... what has he done? Other than dodging the darts the media and Pelosi have thrown?!?

What PRESIDENT TRUMP and his cabinet accomplished.....
Here you go.
* Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.
* Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
* Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.
* Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected.
* Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.
* Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.
* Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.
* Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.
* Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.
* Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms.
* The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers.
* Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.
* Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.
* Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.
* He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.
* Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.
* When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.
* Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.
* In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.
* He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.
* VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
* Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
* Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.
* Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
* Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.
* All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.
* Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price
* President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.
* In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.
* The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.
* The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.
* Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.
* The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.
* Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.
* Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
* New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.
* Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.
* Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.
* The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.
* Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
* President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.
* Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.
* Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all time high.
* More than 7 million jobs created since election.
* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
* More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
* Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.
* Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
* Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.
* In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.
* Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.
* Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.
* Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.
* The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.
* Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.
* The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.
* President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.
* The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.
* The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.
* Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.
* ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.
* Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
* Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
* Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.
* Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.
* President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.
* Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
* Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.
* Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
* Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.
* Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
* Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
* Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.
* Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.
* Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.
* The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
* Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.
* President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
* 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.
* Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.
* Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.|
* Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.
* Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.
* Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.
* Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.
* Stock Market has reached record highs.
* Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
* African-American unemployment is at an all time low.
* Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all time low.
* Asian-American unemployment is at an all time low.
* Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low.
* Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.
* We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.
* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.
* As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
* Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.
* Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.
* Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.
* Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.
* Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.
* Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
* U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.
* The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.
* Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.
* Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.
* Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
* Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.
* Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
* Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.
* Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.
* Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.
* The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.
* It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.
* In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.
* The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.
* In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.
* In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.
* Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s thelaw, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.
* US stock market continually hits all-time record highs

Go the Don

This is a rag tag collection of Hawk, Saints, Pies et al supporters in AUSTRALIA. We won’t be convincing our brethren which way to vote in Nov US elections.

 

[romeohwho]

This is the mindset we're dealing with.

Thick as a plank. Why is it that far righties are so dense?

 

[Night Train]

This is a rag tag collection of Hawk, Saints, Pies et al supporters in AUSTRALIA. We won’t be convincing our brethren which way to vote in Nov US elections.

Vote blue no matter who...an even bigger racist,grabs em by the pussy what's the difference.

Irony.

 

[Damp Squarie]

This is a rag tag collection of Hawk, Saints, Pies et al supporters in AUSTRALIA. We won’t be convincing our brethren which way to vote in Nov US elections.

Donald will win by the length of the straight. No convincing needed.

 

[BATTERY]

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Donald will win by the length of the straight. No convincing needed.

You do realise that hoping something will happen is not the same as that thing actually happening?

 

[ChappyUK]

You do realise that hoping something will happen is not the same as that thing actually happening?

Triggered by a prediction. FMD.

At least he didn't say Biden will win if 300k people die.

 

[Crankitup]

Apparently Chump is now saying he expects "95,000 or more" deaths in the US from Covid19.
Interesting how he's trying to gradually reset the expectations. Couldn't quite bring himself to say 100,000, though.
Looks like he'll be at 200,000 by some time in July. Then, what, 300,000 by November?

I very much doubt it. Those numbers and worse are what we would've seen if the Democrats had been in control however. There is no way they would've closed the borders as early for instance.

 

[ChappyUK]

I very much doubt it. Those numbers and worse are what we would've seen if the Democrats had been in control however. There is no way they would've closed the borders as early for instance.

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Never a word of what the Dems approach would have been.

Just Trump.

Both left and right run countries / states have been hit hard by this. Both sides are starting to ease restrictions but it only matters who is saying it whether it is good or bad thing

The opening of the economies of the world is just a perfect stick to whack people with their moral superiority.

I live in an electorate that voted 70% Labor in a Tory landslide Very few people are following the lockdown. My only trip out today to run was almost impossible. Streets as busy as always. Very much doubt this is just Tories out and about.

More likely a lot of Chris Cuomo types who travel to the Hamptons when they have the virus and pretend they are locked up in their basement. Then have the gaul to call people in the park fools.

 

[Crankitup]

Never a word of what the Dems approach would have been.

Just Trump.

Both left and right run countries / states have been hit hard by this. Both sides are starting to ease restrictions but it only matters who is saying it whether it is good or bad thing

The opening of the economies of the world is just a perfect stick to whack people with their moral superiority.

I live in an electorate that voted 70% Labor in a Tory landslide Very few people are following the lockdown. My only trip out today to run was almost impossible. Streets as busy as always. Very much doubt this is just Tories out and about.

More likely a lot of Chris Cuomo types who travel to the Hamptons when they have the virus and pretend they are locked up in their basement. Then have the gaul to call people in the park fools.

As far as the US is concerned, this didn't help.

The worst hit city in the US had a pretty large proportion of those 430,000 people fly in from China. Where they were greeted with comments like this from the NY city health commissioner (27/1 - NY Times) .....

Dr. Barbot said that those who have recently traveled from Wuhan are not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.

“We are very clear: We wish New Yorkers a Happy Lunar New Year and we encourage people to spend time with their families and go about their celebration,” Dr. Barbot said.

 

[Lethality]

I very much doubt it. Those numbers and worse are what we would've seen if the Democrats had been in control however. There is no way they would've closed the borders as early for instance.

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There is no travel ban, there are only restrictions, and thousands have come to USA from China since then. It's possible Trump's racism might have worked to protect Americans if he then also took prudent measures to curb the virus which had already crossed the border. But that hasn't been the case.

 

[ChappyUK]

There is no travel ban, there are only restrictions, and thousands have come to USA from China since then. It's possible Trump's racism might have worked to protect Americans if he then also took prudent measures to curb the virus which had already crossed the border. But that hasn't been the case.

All hindsight. Nothing on how a non racist policy would have lessened the spread

 

[Lethality]

All hindsight. Nothing on how a non revisit policy would have lessened the spread

There's no hindsight required for good pandemic policy, but even if there was, America had that benefit, by watching the mistakes made by Iran, Italy and others that experienced outbreaks before they did.

 

[ChappyUK]

There's no hindsight required for good pandemic policy, but even if there was, America had that benefit, by watching the mistakes made by Iran, Italy and others that experienced outbreaks before they did.

The main issue with those countries was their hospital systems collapsed. This was the main goal. Increasing ICU capacity etc. All countries after Italy etc achieved this. US, UK have been hit hard but they haven't been overrun.

 

[Deaneus!]

I woke up and couldn't sleep, checked the US death toll... about to crack 80k

Then I realised the 1,335,668 includes Katie Miller, Trump's valet, Trump's food server, Ivanka's personal assistant... then I felt good.

 

[60 Yards Out]

Triggered by a prediction. FMD.
At least he didn't say Biden will win if 300k people die.

I think you might be referring to my post above. I didn’t say anything about Biden winning at that number — anything’s possible in that electoral system. My comment was a calm speculation about where the number might be at that point, given:
- current daily numbers
- New York tailing off over the next few weeks
- but the rest of the country coming out of restrictions and firing up a new wave of infections
The real driver of this situation will be Trump’s sabotage of the nationwide testing capability — a cynical calculation to keep recorded numbers down, but which will undoubtedly be counterproductive when combined with his push to get people back in to the streets.

 

[PCSY]

Irony .... back in his night club days Trump’s acquaintances gave him the nickname of Sol. When he arrived they would greet him with a raised arm and “Ah ... Sol!”

No one is sure if he has picked up on it to this day. He was just happy to be ‘accepted’ by the in crowd.

Nah, that wasn’t DJT.

 

[PCSY]

As far as the US is concerned, this didn't help.

The worst hit city in the US had a pretty large proportion of those 430,000 people fly in from China. Where they were greeted with comments like this from the NY city health commissioner (27/1 - NY Times) .....

Dr. Barbot said that those who have recently traveled from Wuhan are not being urged to self-quarantine or avoid large public gatherings.

“We are very clear: We wish New Yorkers a Happy Lunar New Year and we encourage people to spend time with their families and go about their celebration,” Dr. Barbot said.

Add in Cuomo’s screw up with nursing homes and you soon see it isn’t all the bad orange man’s fault.