Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 19: Law and Odour

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[Crow54]

So when they say "Reclaim" America, who do they think has it?

It's obviously those leftist, commie, woke ******** (in other words, the Dems).

 

[Maggie5]

Seems some posters are carrying on because WH supplied questions to radio interview for Biden (4 Questions were accepted and would most likely have been asked anyway).

How about the fact that Trump refused to be interviewed because he wanted the list of questions before the interview and that he only wanted to answer questions on the debate. He backed out of the interview 15 minutes before.

Not too different I would have thought.

 

[BigTacoBandit]

trunp lying. surely not

How can he disagree with something he knows nothing about???

Why would he wish them luck with with absolutely ridiculous and abysmal things???

 

[Satan]

How can he disagree with something he knows nothing about???

Why would he wish them luck with with absolutely ridiculous and abysmal things???

He wished maxwell good luck

 

[Festerz]

So when they say "Reclaim" America, who do they think has it?

Anyone who doesn't look or think like them obviously.

Ignoring the fact that the south of the past they long for was built on the hard work and lives of those very people they despise.

 

[Mick F]

Anyone who doesn't look or think like them obviously.

Ignoring the fact that the south of the past they long for was built on the hard work and lives of those very people they despise.

And … the role of the Chinese in building the nation. Not the least being the 20,000 workers, who built the train tracks between Sacramento and Utah - obscured from history by racism and xenophobia, that made it easy for subsequent generations to forget their role.

 

[Festerz]

And … the 20,000 Chinese workers, who built the train tracks between Sacramento and Utah - obscured from history by racism and xenophobia, that made it easy for subsequent generations to forget their role.

yep. Have been on that very section of track that is travelled by the California Zephyr, the greatest US rail journey even now and which opened up the wealth of Atlantic- Pacific commerce.










But as we know from our own experience in Australia. those who have never read history, let alone have the capacity to understand it, are always the ones who misquote it the most.

 

[Kram]

I've started work on a comedic Trump impersonation to use at parties after a few beers.

 

[Gethelred]

I've started work on a comedic Trump impersonation to use at parties after a few beers.

... do you expect it to go down well?

 

[Financialpanther]

... do you expect it to go down well?

Should go down like a set of urine soaked Russian hookers.

 

[darrenmorgan]

 

[Baldur]

It appears that as command of the armed forces is a core power, a president can order Seal Team 6 to murder whomever he likes and is absolutely immune.

Order the justice department to proceed with made up criminal charges including fake evidence, again absolutely immune.

Sell pardons, yep you guessed it, absolutely immune.

What about offical non core acts, the presumptive immunity can only overturned if doing so would create no, none, nada intrusion on the presidential power. Its hard to think of when this presumptive immunity could ever be overturned.

What is an offical act? Anything that is part of a presidents duties, such as speaking to the public. Indeed any act which is not clearly outside responsibilities of a president is an offical act. Telling a crowd to attack Congress, offical act, presumptive immunity applies. Would hindering a presidents to speak to the public intrude on his authority? If yes, than no overturning of the immunity.

Even if a crime is to not an offical act, any offical act in relation to said crime cannot be used in evidence. So secert instruction to the proud boys to riot, maybe an unoffical act. But if the instructions were passed by an aide. Excluded from evidence.

 

[DaTBird187]

So when they say "Reclaim" America, who do they think has it?

Immigrant Trans Pinko lefties.

Oh and Black Jews who abort new born babies.

 

[The Dice Man]

What is it about the modern far right and the mostly weight inappropriate tight trousers?

You mean like these ones?

 

[Crankyhawk]

It was a rather uncontroversial decision for mine. The DOJ in the USA had for decades been working under the assumption of Sovereign immunity for the Prez.

It's why they stopped short of recommending any criminal prosecution for the Russian collusion.

The SCOTUS effectively did give immunity, but only when the President is performing his Constitutional duties (as head of the Executive branch).

These are clearly outlined in the US Constitution:



https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-ii

As head of the Executive he also has other powers (signing Bills into Acts or refusing to do so via Veto, running and issuing directives to the rest of the Executive branch, meeting foreign heads of State etc).

Again, to use an example, the President could (in times of war, and in exercise of his function as Commander in chief of the Armed forces) order a US citizen, levying war against the USA be assassinated without trial, and not face Criminal prosecution for murder (something that would happen if anyone else ordered someone to kill another person).

Barrack Obama did just this, ordering the murder of a few US citizens who were fighting for ISIS.

Sovereign immunity exists for a reason.

Where it crosses the line, is where the President purports to use his immunity in furtherance of an aim outside of his Constitutional duties (for example, ordering the assassination of a political rival, for no other reason other than to win an election).

The latter example is outside the scope of his official duties.

Now its back to the lower courts to determine if 'conspiring to ignore an election result, and install himself as President in defiance of the vote' fits within the scope of his Presidential duties.

And it’s time for Biden to officially remove the corrupted members of the Supreme Court who adore and fellate the NRA as terrorist sympathisers

Remove via execution.

 

[Satan]

And it’s time for Biden to officially remove the corrupted members of the Supreme Court who adore and fellate the NRA as terrorist sympathisers

Remove via execution.

Maybe they can use the noose , the tourists had for Mike Pence ?

 

[Crankyhawk]

TBH even if Biden/Dems win the far right will still be around. They'll be plenty of people willing to take the ball off of Donnys and run with it..

The US needs a strong leader that can start to unite the country again.

I had hoped Haley could have been that . Alas not to be (absent the sudden death of trump)

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

And it’s time for Biden to officially remove the corrupted members of the Supreme Court who adore and fellate the NRA as terrorist sympathisers

Remove via execution.

Is there provision for him to remove? I thought once appointed there were there for life?

I would have thought execution might not be the most reasonable course of action.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Is there provision for him to remove? I thought once appointed there were there for life?

I would have thought execution might not be the most reasonable course of action.

Official Act immunity

 

[happy_eagle]

Official Act immunity

The SC ruling means that he can't be charged for it as an individual.

Doesn't give him the right to pass something unconstitutionally.

 

[BigTacoBandit]

Official Act immunity

Kinda ironic that the judges he would need to execute are the ones who believe he is immune.

If it went back to the Supreme Court, the new judges would deny his immunity haha

 

[supportyourteam]

Is there provision for him to remove? I thought once appointed there were there for life?

I would have thought execution might not be the most reasonable course of action.

Particularly after the recent supreme court ruling, he could remove any judge he wanted to through executive order. Who could stop him?

 

[Malifice]

Official Act immunity

Runs into problems with the 5th and 4th amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pro...e Fourteenth,arbitrary exercise of its powers.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Runs into problems with the 5th and 4th amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/procedural_due_process#:~:text=The Fifth and the Fourteenth,arbitrary exercise of its powers.

It the constitution seems not to matter any more.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Official Act immunity

Particularly after the recent supreme court ruling, he could remove any judge he wanted to through executive order. Who could stop him?

Would you support Biden in using these powers to remove members of the SC and reinstate ones that are more in alignment with his views?