Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

[Satan]

Maybe Gavin Newsome probably a white male

Mayor Pete would really rile up the Maga mob

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

With Harris being from California should rule Newsom out as her running mate

Typically parties like to find people in locations they are weakest in

It could be someone from Chicago to New York - I cant see any midwest names that jump out

Good point. How about Buttlepleig?

 

[Satan]

Harris is also a lot better on Gaza than Biden even though she has a Jewish husband

Thats why michigan might be gone for dems even though trump has identical views

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

He just had a bad day Biden will be fine.

 

[spinynorman]

You're really starting to see the jockeying for positions, as livelier, more youthful Democratic Presidential candidates than Biden free themselves up to replace him on the ticket.

Retiring at 90, Michael Dukakis is hailed as teacher, leader and benevolent ‘nag’

The Northeastern retirement event for the former governor was part tribute and part roast. Three of his successors attended, amid a who's who of Massachusetts politicos.

www.wbur.org

 

[bourbons]

Kamala is now favourite in the bettimg to be the Democratic candidate, Biden out the door at $14 on the exchange.
Prediction: Biden will pull out in 4 days, Democrats have no other choice but to pick Kamala or suffer a black voter backlash.

Could she stay on as VP to mitigate that backlash a touch? I'm not really sure how these things work.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

A small win for Joe, he has got Ukraine and Gaza off the front page so to speak.
Gaza conflict was biting democrats hard.

 

[happy_eagle]

 

[Spearman]

Mayor Pete would really rile up the Maga mob

I thought of him first, but he’ll outshine her I think. They don’t something like that

 

[Saint]

A small win for Joe, he has got Ukraine and Gaza off the front page so to speak.
Gaza conflict was biting democrats hard.

Bibi is coming to America to demand more weapons.

Joe will say that he spoke harshly to Bibi, but he's giving him everything he wants.

He's being treated like a lame-duck ineffectual President by the President of a country which is completely reliant on US support. It makes him look very weak.

Can you imagine if the President of PNG came to Australia demanding all sorts of things and getting everything he wants?

Biden can't afford to lose the money of the AIPAC lobby, or the support of the people who oppose the war.

(That being said, $13 is ridiculous, that can't be real?)

 

[GreyCrow]

With Harris being from California should rule Newsom out as her running mate

Typically parties like to find people in locations they are weakest in

It could be someone from Chicago to New York - I cant see any midwest names that jump out

I missed Gretchen Whitmer Governor of Michigan for 5 years - Joe needs Michigan back with 15 Electoral votes

Michigan Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin

Information on how the residents of Michigan have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2024 election, as well as a Michigan voting history and narrative.

www.270towin.com

 

[Aussie in exile]

Poor people have been sucked in by him, he's not poor. There's no mystery here.

Because in my opinion they lack intelligence

 

[Bloods86]

Could she stay on as VP to mitigate that backlash a touch? I'm not really sure how these things work.

I read an article the other day floating Whitmer/Warnock, which is now probably my favoured pairing for electability.

I'd also like (from a more progressive sense):

Whitmer/Jon Stewart
Whitmer/Khanna
Whitmer/AOC

Moore, Beshear are other options that would be energetic or help in swing states. Harris as VP again for Whitmer, Moore, Beshear etc would be ok, but not sure I'd go as president. If there was someone who could go on the attack like Stewart as VP maybe it would offset.

 

[GreyCrow]

I read an article the other day floating Whitmer/Warnock, which is now probably my favoured pairing for electability.

I'd also like (from a more progressive sense):

Whitmer/Jon Stewart
Whitmer/Khanna
Whitmer/AOC

Moore, Beshear are other options that would be energetic or help in swing states. Harris as VP again for Whitmer, Moore, Beshear etc would be ok, but not sure I'd go as president. If there was someone who could go on the attack like Stewart as VP maybe.

I personally dont mind any of these but I am not sure America is ready for a double female leadership group

 

[happy_eagle]

Don't they lose access to all fundraising money if it's not Biden or Harris leading the ticket ?

Which puts them in a tough position as I think Kamala likely loses to Trump, but more competitively than Biden.

Give up the billions raised for a stronger candidate
vs
Keep all money raised, but run Kamala

 

[Bloods86]

Don't they lose access to all fundraising money if it's not Biden or Harris leading the ticket ?

Which puts them in a tough position as I think Kamala likely loses to Trump, but more competitively than Biden.

Give up the billions raised for a stronger candidate
vs
Keep all money raised, but run Kamala

Don't think Biden and Harris are considered a joint ticket until the convention. So if Biden dropped out it wouldn't go to Harris. Biden might be able to put it into a PAC fund for general campaigning, but they may also be obliged to offer a refund.

Might also see some big ad buys which tout Dems more generally in the lead up to any withdrawal. Might be a point where if funds are committed, it's done.

 

[smy1305]

Given the new paradigm I have no doubt she would do well in polling

Idiocracy Lives

Well if it was Oprah vs Trump in 2016 then this mess wouldn’t even exist I guess.

 

[smy1305]

With Harris being from California should rule Newsom out as her running mate

Typically parties like to find people in locations they are weakest in

It could be someone from Chicago to New York - I cant see any midwest names that jump out

Michigan guv has been thrown out as an option

 

[JackFlash]

It's the end of the world as we know it if Kamala ever gets the top job, even for a couple months. Fake tan Joe doesn't want to give up the gig because even he knows what a disaster Kamala would be. It's become absurd now.

 

[Bloods86]

Jon Ossoff, Senator from Georgia is another young Dem who is worth considering in any VP analysis. If they went with Harris, he's worth thinking about. Doubt he holds Georgia for them, but would help with younger voters, progressive enough to offset Harris.

 

[smy1305]

A small win for Joe, he has got Ukraine and Gaza off the front page so to speak.
Gaza conflict was biting democrats hard.

Obv his strategy all along….

 

[Blue1980]

Jon Ossoff, Senator from Georgia is another young Dem who is worth considering in any VP analysis. If they went with Harris, he's worth thinking about. Doubt he holds Georgia for them, but would help with younger voters, progressive enough to offset Harris.

Warnock would be a good one too I think (another Georgia senator)

 

[Blue1980]

Obv his strategy all along….

Trump style 5D Chess?

 

[happy_eagle]

Warnock would be a good one too I think (another Georgia senator)

Would piss off the 2020 election deniers as well, as those two won in run-off elections from memory.
Added bonus