Player Watch #5: Brandon Ellis - off to GC pick 39 as compo

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blackcat said:
this is the Luke Beveridge fallacy...

some depth is good.

too much depth will hinder
*how so?

someone else answer... but if players feel uncertain come selection time, those with concerns, and doubts, it will reflect on their season long performance. The counter position, it would actually steel<verb> the 22 with vigour and self-confidence. Plus immaculate discipline off-the-field.

so I may be incorrect. But as I call it, the LukeBeveridge fallacy.

Another Hawthorn fallacy is players need to have the potential to play in multiple positions, "flexibility" is the word du jour, and rolled out in support of Pickett Richmond iteration choppy.

Well, this would not fit with the key to our back 6, them having an acute intimacy and knowing the running patterns of all their 5 back teammates...

again, I could provide you with the positives and counter-factual, but I believe it is a Clarko/Beveridge/Dimma w@nk of self-justification and self-adulation. Just like this stupid post of mine here.
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<transitive> ot <intransitive> ?
 
tropicaltiger said:
NOT really..... but i did notice how the bench was organised in the last minute with our 4 least experienced boys sharing the pine with the rest of the gang and dimma had the older boys on the field, as if to say thanks now soak it up... more class, care and nous from dimma and the bench crew.
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The 4 on the bench at the end of the game were the 4 that started on the bench. I could be incorrect but I think everyone lined up in their original positions at the last bounce. Most pressure in the coaches' box in the last quarter was making this happen.
 
THE_GUN said:
Im happy for Brando to take the 3 mil , I have said many times i dont hate brando but Value the $$$$ saving's from our cap & pick #20 more than Ellis with the depth we have in his position and Pickett has shown in 1 game that he is an upgrade.

I really didnt crap bullets though as i watch games and can see that he was never really a chance and the fact we had so many injuries helped him
Stack , McIntosh,Caddy , Cotchin and a few more missing so many games made ellis 11th

good luck to him and wish him the best, Now we can Boo him as an opposition player ;)
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It's amazing how few people were seemingly able to see this. I wish I'd known there were bets being placed, I could have cleaned up haha.
 

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Madtiger2006 said:
Wonder what we were planning to pay him? You’d think at least 400k to 450k a year? I don’t think any other player would leave a club like ours for 25% more honestly. The biggest and best club in the country. Closest playing group around. Best colours and song. Playing to big crowds every week.
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He was probably on 500K, 400K is my guess is he would have had to take a 100K pay cut over many years if he stayed at Richmond, 300-350K is like the average so Ellis slightly above that. at Suns anywhere from 550K-600K.
 
Rich o man said:
The 4 on the bench at the end of the game were the 4 that started on the bench. I could be incorrect but I think everyone lined up in their original positions at the last bounce. Most pressure in the coaches' box in the last quarter was making this happen.
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correct same 4, bolts, soldo, pickett and baker.
 
All the best Brando, 2x premiership player.

It’s being reported that it’s 5 year $3mill deal so about $600k a season.

Motlop left Geelong for a 4 year deal just over $2mill so just over $500k per season and they got end of 1st round compo. Surely we get end of first round compo for a bigger contract?
 
Very happy with the output Ellis achieved at Tigerland. That huge bump on Dangerflop in the '17 qualifying final as well as the goal vs Freo in '17 to put us in front are personal highlights.

Totally understand his decision to leave considering where he's come from. Hopefully he can put some work ethic into the Suns and improve them as a club. Guarantee that the other Tiger boys won't have any hard feelings when he does leave and I'm sure we'll see some friendly banter next time we play GC.
 
tony__montana said:
All the best Brando, 2x premiership player.

It’s being reported that it’s 5 year $3mill deal so about $600k a season.

Motlop left Geelong for a 4 year deal just over $2mill so just over $500k per season and they got end of 1st round compo. Surely we get end of first round compo for a bigger contract?
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With us winning the Premiership the AFL could well deduct our compo a bit, Idk it seems they make things on the run it hasn't fully been transparent the Compensation in Free agency it would be good if they had clear model that the public follow.
 
THE_GUN said:
Im happy for Brando to take the 3 mil , I have said many times i dont hate brando but Value the $$$$ saving's from our cap & pick #20 more than Ellis with the depth we have in his position and Pickett has shown in 1 game that he is an upgrade.

I really didnt crap bullets though as i watch games and can see that he was never really a chance and the fact we had so many injuries helped him
Stack , McIntosh,Caddy , Cotchin and a few more missing so many games made ellis 11th

good luck to him and wish him the best, Now we can Boo him as an opposition player ;)
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I hope we don’t boo him, he was there when we were really thin with injuries, we may not have won the premiership without him this year.
 
Vassp said:
I hope we don’t boo him, he was there when we were really thin with injuries, we may not have won the premiership without him this year.
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He won’t get booed. Think even the supporters have moved on from this shit at Richmond.
 

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Marcel Proust said:
wanna bet?
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Why would anyone boo him. Left not just for very good money, but he must have seen or had it pointed out to him the writing on the wall. Caddy has one wing sown up and a whole swag of good young kids and a few older ones pushing up, he was on good coin, and that was an issue.

I cannot understand any booing anyway, unless the player does something undesirable that deserves it. Do we really want to emulate that WC thing.
 
Marcel Proust said:
wanna bet?
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Yep he won’t get booed. I don’t think Lloyd did from what I could hear. Why would they?
Obviously you’ll get the odd feral knucklehead but you’ll barely hear them because they’ll be in the vast minority.
 
Rodney Dangerfield said:
Yep he won’t get booed. I don’t think Lloyd did from what I could hear. Why would they?
Obviously you’ll get the odd feral knucklehead but you’ll barely hear them because they’ll be in the vast minority.
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I’ll probab clap him to be honest.
Was far from his biggest fan but I’m well aware of the part he played in turning the playing group culture around and he was best for us in the prelim first half so might not have even made it to the GF if he hadn’t have stepped up.
 
Heisenberg_ said:
I’ll probab clap him to be honest.
Was far from his biggest fan but I’m well aware of the part he played in turning the playing group culture around and he was best for us in the prelim first half so might not have even made it to the GF if he hadn’t have stepped up.
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I was never really here nor there with him to be honest but I can appreciate he’s a 170 odd game player for the club and been a part of 2 premierships. Think you only have to see the regard he’s held in by the coaches and players to see he’s made a huge impact on the place.
But I’m just a normal adult with perspective so yeah I won’t be booing and never have anyone who’s left Richmond as far as I can recall.
 

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