AFL Player # 9: Dylan Shiel - Sticking around for 2025 18/10

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024 2025
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 35, eth-dog

 

[yodellinhank]

Pick 2 is a quarter of two pick 14's ?

Just going with Eth's join the dots method of saying we traded Fantasia for Caldwell (which we didn't).

I think the argument traces back to you saying "we got Caldwell anyway" if I'm not mistaken?

 

[yodellinhank]

I look at the most drawn Lotto numbers. I still have not won.

Not many people do. If you assessed how many lotto tickets were bought and how many of them were winners, you'd have a good understanding of what your ticket was actually worth.

 

[faible]

I look at everyone between that and your next pick. You don't cherry pick one or two players, it just gives a picture of if there was a depth of talent available or not.

A player going 15 picks after a selection is unlikely to have been rated at your selection if you’re inside the first couple of rounds. Meaning it’s highly unlikely any club would have taken them at the higher pick.

Eg Fyfe drafted at 20, no one was taking him inside 10 despite it qualifying for your metric.

 

[yodellinhank]

A player going 15 picks after a selection is unlikely to have been rated at your selection if you’re inside the first couple of rounds. Meaning it’s highly unlikely any club would have taken them at the higher pick.

Eg Fyfe drafted at 20, no one was taking him inside 10 despite it qualifying for your metric.

The clubs all rate the players differently. So you can only look at what was on the board at your pick. If there's a single player 15 picks after your selection or if that player is one of half a dozen or more - that's how I look at it. The overall talent available at the selection.

 

[faible]

The clubs all rate the players differently. So you can only look at what was on the board at your pick. If there's a single player 15 picks after your selection or if that player is one of half a dozen or more - that's how I look at it. The overall talent available at the selection.

Very benefit of hindsight looking that far ahead. Fyfe is a great example of a player that no one in the industry ever saw what he'd become, so you can't hammer any particular recruiter for it.

 

[yodellinhank]

Very benefit of hindsight looking that far ahead. Fyfe is a great example of a player that no one in the industry ever saw what he'd become, so you can't hammer any particular recruiter for it.

We have the benefit of hindsight, so use it. We bag Parish for missing that goal on Saturday, easy to do in hindsight. You weren't complaining when he got the footy.

 

[faible]

You weren't complaining when he got the footy.

I might have been, you weren't sitting in my living room.

 

[ant555]

AFL club makes a trade that has not 100% worked in their favour.

 

[ant555]

Anyway we gave up two x pick 14 which ended up being Caldwell (2018) and Bergman(2019). We got their 2019 second pick but it was traded on in a multi trade. I think the pick ended up being with the Crows and was Ronin O'Conner .
We then got Caldwell for two second round picks. Cost us 2020 pick 29 and 2021 second round pick. There where several trades with these picks I think. Geelong ended up with one of them and picked James Willis.

 

[jmoo wan]

Just going with Eth's join the dots method of saying we traded Fantasia for Caldwell (which we didn't).

I think the argument traces back to you saying "we got Caldwell anyway" if I'm not mistaken?

you’re going to get all ****ed up when we trade Fantasia back!

 

[yodellinhank]

you’re going to get all ****ed up when we trade Fantasia back!

You think Fantasia just randomly comes out and asks to get back to Essendon? Adrian never wanted the Shiel deal to go through. He's slowly having to undo it all

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Might as well nurse him to 100 games in the red and black in case he has a son with Choco's daughter.

 

[Duckworth]

Might as well nurse him to 100 games in the red and black in case he has a son with Choco's daughter.

Only 20 games, but that son could be in high school by the time he gets there.

 

[quotemokc]

VFL time

 

[Old Campaigner]

Only way he gets back in is if Hobbs is rested I think

Not a bad position to be in if guys like Shiel have to fight tooth and nail for a spot.

 

[citizen-erased]

VFL time

It's a question but I doubt we ask it

Midfield with Merrett, parish, Hobbs, Caldwell and Perkins is running alright

 

[Jobe Watson]

Really hard to see where he fits in. Been overtaken by our younger mids (and we still have Setterfield to come back in), isn't quick or skilful enough to waste in a forward role, doesn't impact as a sub.

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

Arguably his best season at the club and has been played as a sub slightly underdone returning from injury, wtf is everyone smoking?

 

[Keystone agony]

His only way in outside of injury is a small forward out (Snelling, Guelf or Menzie)

And we got back to playing a Hobbs/Caldwell/Perk more fwd than we saw today

Guelfi was awesome
Menzie manages to kick goals

I think were stupid putting Langers back instead of playing a Baldwin or Cox

 

[andleanback]

Hates contact compared to our younger mids
Can’t be played as the sub, can’t get himself up to the game tempo

 

[TheGrizz]

The sub role doesn't suit him, coming into the contest when the game is hot.

Either VFL or a full AFL game I would think for this week.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Yep, terrible sub option.

 

[HirdyLannister]

How long left on his contract?

 

[resurrector]

Bring him in for snelling and let him have a proper crack for 4 qtrs. He ain't a sub player.

 

[ant555]

Not sure the coach has done him any favors by throwing him in at the center bounce when he gets on. Surely you run him into the forward line for 5 or so minutes so he can get the pace of the game. As for some of the other crap. He was in good form as a forward / midfielder before he got injured. He could use a full VFL game for sure but his form early this year proved he can play a role.