A reminder of the greatness of Jimmy Stynes

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I got these stats from that AFL stats site, which only starts from 1993 onwards. How good was Jimmy Stynes?

Best ruckman of the last 30 years , bar none.

Ill never forget watching him run around the paddock picing up touch after touch, roving goals like he was a little fella and just flat out dominating games off his own boot. Without doubt the most inrdecibly agile 199cm man to ever play the game. And fittest

His touches per game are incredible for a ruckman, and never seen before in the history of the game

Unfortunately the website didnt have the stats from 1991, his Brownlow year, but he from memory he would have averaged 25+ touches per game. Phenomenal

Stynes, 1993 onwards...

1993 - 22.2 disposals per game, 6.2 marks per game,
1994 - 17 dpg, 5 mpg
1995 - 18.2 dpg, 6.1 mpg
1996 - 20.4 dpg, 6.5 mpg
1997 - 20.5 dpg, 5.7 mpg
1998 - 11.7 dpg, 2.8 mpg

Its crazy to think that the year before he retired he was getting the ball over 20 times a game. In 1998, the Dees recruited Jeff White, and Jimmys playing time fell. However the dynamic duo helped take the Demons to the Preliminary Final

If anyone has Jimmy stats from his Brownlow season in 1991, please post them

You forgot to mention the 1987 preliminary final against hawthorn. Jim Stynes crossed the mark to give away a 15-metre penalty. In-return, Garry Buckenara goaled after the siren to give the hawks the game. Costing Melbourne a place in the grand final.
Nice one jimmy

 

[dogupya]

Better than the likes of Scott Wynd and Simon Madden.

 

[Yze_Magic]

Better than the likes of Scott Wynd and Simon Madden.

Simon Madden was great, and you have a case to argue there

But Scott Wynd? LOL

You gotta be kidding me

 

[Norfolk Nadia]

Stynes' possessions

I asked an AFL ruck coach in the mid 90's about why Stynes was allowed to roam free all day and pick up possessions . He replied that Stynes always ran to the outside of the play and that the ball kicked to him was going sideways . He wasn't a great kick so you got a sideways pass and a short kick whenever it went to him , giving your side time to man up .

 

[ManWithNoName]

Stynes, very very good, durable player.

Simon Madden, Champion.

 

[Ljp86]

Yet another Melbourne Masturbation Thread started by Yze_Tragic

 

[pazza]

Over the last 30 years? Geez Tragic..that's a serious stretch!

Let's look at the no. 1 ruckmen in 1975:

Peter Jones, Don Scott, John Newman, Peter Keenan, Gary Dempsey, Graham Moss, Jeff Sarau, Len Thompson, Russell Cook, Michael Green, Brian Roberts, Michael Nolan. Was he better than any of those? Probably half, but, not behind Dempsey, Newman, Scott, Jones, Thompson or Moss.

To 1980:

Mike Fitzpatrick, Scott, Newman, Dempsey, Simon Madden, Ian Hampshire, Sarau, Graham Teasdale, Mark Lee. Again, still behind Scott, Newman and Dempsey and definitely behind Fitzpatrick and Madden.

1985:

Warren Jones, David Cloke, Madden, Matthew Rendell, Andrew Purser, John Mossop, Michael Byrne, Peter Moore, Jonas, Lee, John Ironmonger.

Great list there. Who's he behind? Everyone bar a couple (Purser and Ironmonger).

1990:

Stynes, Madden, the other Madden, Monkhorst, Ischenko, Rendell, Wynd, Flanigan, Dear etc. Still behind quite a few of those.

Once again tragic, your bias and lack of research and understanding has made you look incompetent.

 

[m.diddy]

. However the dynamic duo helped take the Demons to the Preliminary Final

What happened in this prelim? Did he cost you the spot in the granny?

 

[MarkT]

pazza that list illustrates the decline of the ruckman. In 1975 there were great ruckman all over the shop and on each list the numbers thin. Stynes won a brownlow as a midfielder. Thompson won a Brownlow as a ruckman and follower. Moore won two as a combination of Ruckman/Ruck Rover. He was a freak. He could have kicked a ton as a FF or could have been a dominant CHF.

Right now I reckon a fit Gardiner and Primus are all there is and neither are fit. There are some followers and some decent running talls but who else can ruck? Maybe Clarke but he can't take a mark to save himself. When McKee who can’t jump and can’t lift his hands above his head can ruck for a runner up side and have his side lead the comp. in clearances you know the ruckman has all but vanished. Blokes like Dempsey or Thompson would walk up now and win premierships for their sides against the rubbish that tries to ruck now. The coaches went too far with making them contribute around the ground. Goodes won a brownlow because he is the new age Peter Moore athlete but he can't ruck. People forget how damaging a ruckman can be because there aren't any good ones. I hate that Malthouse doesn't respect the position. I think Sam Newman is a git but why Eddie doesn't get him down to Collingwood to teach our blokes how to get their hands on it and sent it somewhere I’ll never know.

Anyway, Stynes was a great story a quality athlete and footballer but an average ruckman in an age of average ruckmen.

 

[windyhill]

Handy footballer Stynes, but didn`t we get him rammed down our throats at every opportunity ? The Irish thing...." ho ho ho , here`s jimmy on St.Pats day".... and the consecutive game thing. " Will Stynes do it"...... like 95% of us gave a ********.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Simon Madden was great, and you have a case to argue there

But Scott Wynd? LOL

You gotta be kidding me

Im not saying one was better than the other, but why you would find a comparison between the two laughable is beyond me. Wynd was a star and one of the most courageous players to play the game. He wasn't the most skilled player but he worked his asse off and time after time did kamikaze acts like consistently filling the hole in front of Lockett. His tap work was also sensational, and while he didn't have the skills of Stynes around the ground, he was better at actual ruck work

He didn't have the profile of Stynes because Stynes came from Ireland and the media loved him, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a gun

It is staggering though, that people are saying Stynes was just a good ordinary player

 

[FuManchu]

Buckenara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Oblong]

Simon Madden the best I have seen >>>>>>>>>>> light years away Stynes
No disrespect towards Stynes yes he was athletic. how many games use to see him 10 - 15m kicks ....very effective wot a joke..

 

[Crow-mosone]

pazza that list illustrates the decline of the ruckman. In 1975 there were great ruckman all over the shop and on each list the numbers thin. Stynes won a brownlow as a midfielder. Thompson won a Brownlow as a ruckman and follower. Moore won two as a combination of Ruckman/Ruck Rover. He was a freak. He could have kicked a ton as a FF or could have been a dominant CHF.

Right now I reckon a fit Gardiner and Primus are all there is and neither are fit. There are some followers and some decent running talls but who else can ruck? Maybe Clarke but he can't take a mark to save himself. When McKee who can’t jump and can’t lift his hands above his head can ruck for a runner up side and have his side lead the comp. in clearances you know the ruckman has all but vanished. Blokes like Dempsey or Thompson would walk up now and win premierships for their sides against the rubbish that tries to ruck now. The coaches went too far with making them contribute around the ground. Goodes won a brownlow because he is the new age Peter Moore athlete but he can't ruck. People forget how damaging a ruckman can be because there aren't any good ones. I hate that Malthouse doesn't respect the position. I think Sam Newman is a git but why Eddie doesn't get him down to Collingwood to teach our blokes how to get their hands on it and sent it somewhere I’ll never know.

Anyway, Stynes was a great story a quality athlete and footballer but an average ruckman in an age of average ruckmen.

Great post. Stynes, was an unaccountable onballer who didn't actually do much ruckwork. Durable more than anything else.
Rehn was the last great ruckman, and I agree Gardiner and Primus have threatened since.

 

[Truck Rutten]

No matter what YM posts the bigfooty sheep brigade will disagree and criticize.

Because he has absolutely no credibility due to his repeated excrement filled posts. Quite possibly the most myopic, misguided stroker on BF.

 

[Yze_Magic]

Because he has absolutely no credibility due to his repeated excrement filled posts. Quite possibly the most myopic, misguided stroker on BF.

yet you still comment on me?

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[Longy413]

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You heard of the old cliche that goes, "laughing at you, not with you"?

 

[dogupya]

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Find the DSMIV look up Narcisism, my guess is your mug will be there YM. Yeah your right Scott Wynd was a dud, what on earth was I thinking, lucky we have you on this board to keep us ignorant posters in check. Scot Wynd is a ledgend my friend. Jim Stynes is not a ruckman's arseh*le compared to Wynd and Madden.

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