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Good point, WA has historically been a centre for great ruckmen.
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Interesting thread...if you live in Belmont perhaps.
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Don't understand this tbh.Interesting thread...if you live in Belmont perhaps.
Especially when there's currently a thread about the next premiership between Carlton, Essendon and Richmond. At least this thread is about elite ruckman.Don't understand this tbh.
Why does a thread about the currently dominant ruckman only matter to Western Australians? Is it that only us Western Australians appreciate a good ruckman?
Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.Don't understand this tbh.
Why does a thread about the currently dominant ruckman only matter to Western Australians? Is it that only us Western Australians appreciate a good ruckman?
Wasn't even a Sandilands vs Cox post, was a Sandilands just smashed a record/how will he be viewed in 10 years post. Don't know why people have come in talking about Cox vs Sandi or even brining Naitanui into it, was never meant to be a comparison post.Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.
Cox was mentioned because he is largely considered the best modern ruckman, nothing to do with the fact that he played for WC.Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.
Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.
Doesn't it make sense to compare the two best ruckmen of the past decade or so?Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.
Fair enough. And all topics are valid to someone. But the discussion of Sandilands V Cox suggests a view of the world that doesn't extend far beyond Gosnells. To try and respond to the OP, Sandilands - great bloke, good ruckman -- seems like he will be a marginal figure in the games history.
Doesn't it make sense to compare the two best ruckmen of the past decade or so?
Seems irrelevant that they're from WA.
I was working my way east so Gosnells was the last one I could think of.How many more Perth suburbs are you going to name?
My interpretation was really that he was just referring to recent times. This is just semantics, so let's just leave it at that haha.Oh come on...it was a parochial question inviting the parochial answer that Cox and Sandilands are the best ruckmen ever. History won't put Sandilands on that rung, and I think that's the uneasiness behind the original question. Despite 4 all-Australians and a million hitouts, there's a feeling that Sandi just come up short compared to the greats.
Because it's the VFLDon't understand this tbh.
Why does a thread about the currently dominant ruckman only matter to Western Australians? Is it that only us Western Australians appreciate a good ruckman?
How many more Perth suburbs are you going to name?
Aaron Sandilands has just recorded 69 hitouts in tonight's game against Adelaide, which appears to be the AFL/VFL record. According to this article posted last year, the record at that time stood at 63 from North Melbourne's Gary Dempsey in 1982. I'm fairly sure that hasn't been broken since the article was posted, but either way it's a phenomenal effort that emphasises what Sandi can do at his absolute best.
It got me thinking about the legacy Sandi will leave behind him when he wraps it up. Obviously a physical freak from a sheer size point of view, I've never felt he reached the heights he could have. Don't get me wrong, he's has some excellent periods of play and a fair few accolades (4 time All Australian, Fremantle's B+F in 2009, Grand Finalist) and injuries have held him back no doubt, which was perhaps to be expected of someone his size. Sandi is also a matchup nightmare when resting forward, making him even more damaging than some of the less agile ruckmen in the league. Maybe it's the blue and gold tinted glasses, but there never seemed a point where he was far and away better than Dean Cox or other challengers for best ruck in the league (although he was always in the conversation). Sandi's career for mine was at its peak for 3-4 years but he's struggled, mainly due to injury, to recapture that peak.
When Sandilands retires and you're describing his career to someone who didn't see it, what will you say? Was he an undisputed top tier ruckman for long enough to be considered one of the greats, or did you expect more consistently from someone of his size?
Because it's the VFL
You two - Freo & WCE - seriously love each other. I can't respect that in rivals.
We love that we hate each other? Pretty much.You two - Freo & WCE - seriously love each other. I can't respect that in rivals.
I second this. I hate Port.You two - Freo & WCE - seriously love each other. I can't respect that in rivals.
Cox changed the way the position is now played. That's a legacyCox is the most overrated ruckman of all time.