Catatonic Shock
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How many games did Cox beat Sandilands? They played against each other nearly 20 times. How often did "greatest ruckman ever" win that battle?
Polly never played against Sandi.
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How many games did Cox beat Sandilands? They played against each other nearly 20 times. How often did "greatest ruckman ever" win that battle?
Of course. Neither did Dempsey, Madden, Nicholls, Stynes, Michael, etc.Polly never played against Sandi.
Kill meThanks Dwayne
Cox is the most overrated ruckman of all time.
You've conveniently omitted four years of games and the game in 2006 that Sandilands conclusively won, while keeping the game in 2006 that Sandilands was injured with a broken jaw before half time.
Eg in the second Derby of 2006, the yeah Cox was at his "peak" in terms of disposals around the ground and Sandilands just got a game because he was tall
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2006/081820060827.html
Cox 13 disposals, 0 clearances, 13 hitouts
Sandilands: 22 disposals, 5 clearances, 20 hitouts, 2 Brownlow votes.
For the early part of their careers, Cox was the better and more consistent ruckman. For the latter part, Sandilands had greater presence around the contest, won the battle conclusively against Cox - often as a lone hand.
I know, Matthew Burton. The gentleman giant.Gary Dempsey could hang onto 15 -20 marks a game too. He probably still holds the record for most in a game.
Sandi, hit out machine who should be because of his physical dimensions.
When he's finished, for me he will be a trivia question. Who was the AFL's first 7 footer?
Should have been an all time great but imp has been largely underwhelming in every facet of the game excepting hit outs. (Yes he has torn Geelong a new one a few times, but he should have been doing it to everyone all the time.
He's a bigger version of Drew Petrie.
You've conveniently omitted four years of games and the game in 2006 that Sandilands conclusively won, while keeping the game in 2006 that Sandilands was injured with a broken jaw before half time.
Eg in the second Derby of 2006, the yeah Cox was at his "peak" in terms of disposals around the ground and Sandilands just got a game because he was tall
http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/2006/081820060827.html
Cox 13 disposals, 0 clearances, 13 hitouts
Sandilands: 22 disposals, 5 clearances, 20 hitouts, 2 Brownlow votes.
For the early part of their careers, Cox was the better and more consistent ruckman. For the latter part, Sandilands had greater presence around the contest, won the battle conclusively against Cox - often as a lone hand.
There's still a pretty good chance he could be 6 time AA.Sandi absolutely monsters some ruckmen - Jacobs was on the end of it yesterday by the looks of it.
He is also good at ball ups around the ground, and in a wet contested game with a lot of stoppages he absolutely dominated.
As far as his legacy. I think he will be remembered by many as an underrated colossus who had he not been injured could have had 6 all AA and been remembered as one of the greatest. He will perhaps be still remembered as one of the best, simply because he rarely got beaten and was at times absolutely dominant.
Still feel he underachieved, but that is largely because it took so many years to get to his peak, and he still does little aside from win hit-outs. If he keeps this up for another couple of years he will be in the top echelon.
Never as good as Cox. If Sandi was 10cm shorter he wouldnt be anythung special. He dominates the hitouts due to his size and strength, with very few other strings to his bow. Not noted for marking, around the ground or kicking goals. Not near Cox imo.
Never as good as Cox. If Sandi was 10cm shorter he wouldnt be anythung special. He dominates the hitouts due to his size and strength, with very few other strings to his bow. Not noted for marking, around the ground or kicking goals. Not near Cox imo.
And if Pendlebury was 10cm taller he would be slower, weaker below the knee's and shitNever as good as Cox. If Sandi was 10cm shorter he wouldnt be anythung special. He dominates the hitouts due to his size and strength, with very few other strings to his bow. Not noted for marking, around the ground or kicking goals. Not near Cox imo.
Exactly. If Gary Ablett Jnr wasn't the son of Gary Ablett Snr would he be as good? Maybe, being the son of Gary Ablett Snr didn't guarantee anything (although I'll always believe Nathan wasted his god given talent).And if Robert Harvey (or Cox, for that matter) wasn't such a running machine, he would have just been another good player. If Dustin Fletcher had Daniel Rich-proportion arms, maybe he doesn't even get to 200 games. Why is size/strength the only natural attribute that is marked harshly, as if it's some sort of unfair advantage? Shouldn't elite pace, endurance, leaping ability, coordination or massive hands be looked at the same way?
Agree, not the no. 1 contested mark in the league anymore this week. But who are those other rucks that are in the top 20 atm...Not noted for marking
And if Robert Harvey (or Cox, for that matter) wasn't such a running machine, he would have just been another good player. If Dustin Fletcher had Daniel Rich-proportion arms, maybe he doesn't even get to 200 games. Why is size/strength the only natural attribute that is marked harshly, as if it's some sort of unfair advantage? Shouldn't elite pace, endurance, leaping ability, coordination or massive hands be looked at the same way?
Those guys still have other great attributes (except Steve Morris who sucks in everything except courage and effort). Sandilands for me has one great attribute and isnt much better than any other ruck at anything else. In quite a few areas hes below a number of them (impact around the ground, possesion, mobility, contested marking, goalkicking).I love dumb comments like this.
It's as dumb as saying if Dustin Martin had a kick 10m shorter he wouldn't be anything special.
If Alex Rance was 10kg lighter he'd be nothing special.
If Steve Morris had 10% more IQ he'd still be as dumb as a brick.
You can't take what sets people apart and use it as a counter argument.
JUST DUMB