Current Abduction of 4yo Blowholes Shacks WA *Terence Kelly Convicted

[Kurve]

MEDIA
Current - The Bunker Part 2

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Isn't DNA kept on file only for those with a previous conviction for a serious crime? Known to police can just mean petty offenses & minor crimes.

Any crime they take your DNA for and you get charged. Even 3rd DUI and some traffic offences

 

[Zidane98]

Any crime they take your DNA for and you get charged. Even 3rd DUI and some traffic offences

Even if the charges are dropped or no conviction is recorded?

Havent heard of DNA being taken for traffic offenses.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

yeah fair enough, but if it is his house and they find dna on anything that belongs to him, i'm not sure what that proves given it is his house, its not a crime to have a toss in your own home, and I am not sure technology is good enough to pick up age of dna?. But I guess its all part of the bigger picture

Yes, you are correct. They will only need his DNA on the girl or her clothes. They know he lives there. And they will esp be looking for semen samples on the girl or her bedding etc, in case they find signs of sexual assault.

 

[Flash of power]

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Footprints?

Like the possibly crime scene evidence ones I saw reported on last night in the media (see below)

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

'Miracle in dead of night after days of despair: ‘My name is Cleo’
by PAUL GARVEY
SENIOR REPORTER

PAIGE TAYLOR
INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, WA BUREAU CHIEF

NOVEMBER 3, 2021

The man in police custody on Wednesday was a familiar sight to neighbours approached by The Australian, though they said he hardly talked. They recalled frequently seeing him walking around the neighbourhood until he recently got a car. He had done some work in Carnarvon with Real Futures, a local work-for-the-dole program.'

'He is from a large Aboriginal family. Amid serious concerns of community tensions in coming days, extra police were flown in to Carnarvon on Wednesday.

Mr Dawson held a crisis meeting with about 20 Aboriginal elders, asking them to ignore hurtful or inflammatory comments on social media. Mr Dawson also asked the elders to encourage younger people not to respond to any goading or racism in the wake of the arrest. A senior Aboriginal woman, Gillian Snowball, was moved to tears when she told the meeting she had known the man in custody since he was a toddler.

“It’s a disgrace today, I feel ashamed,” she said. “I don’t want to walk down the street or go to the shops now.”

During the investigation, locals came to believe police had a footprint from the family’s campsite that they considered highly significant.

Police contacted people whose mobile phones had been detected in the area on October 15 and 16 and questioned them about their shoes.

One woman questioned twice told The Australian: “They said it was a random questionnaire but it was an interrogation because my phone was in the area and I didn’t mind because they have to be thorough. They wanted to know what size my shoes are and what kind of shoes I have.”'

that makes more sense, potentially sand, seeds or anything else that may have put him in the vicinity of the campsite

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Even if the charges are dropped or no conviction is recorded?

Havent heard of DNA being taken for traffic offenses.

DNA can be requested to be destroyed if no conviction, or charges are dropped.
Yes your DNA will be on the system for almost all crimes, as long as they take your DNA obv.
3rd DUI, driving on suspended licence etc all will keep your DNA

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Smiling Cleo clings to mum on first day of freedom

Cleo Smith has been pictured after her first night with her family since her disappearance.

www.google.com.au

 

[Kurve]

Well done Channel 7.

A man wrongly identified as the alleged kidnapper of four-year-old Cleo Smith was threatened with being speared and killed and sought protection from the police, sources close to the investigation told Daily Mail Australia.

Man wrongly identified as Cleo's kidnapper threatened with SPEARING

Man wrongly identified as Cleo Smith's abductor speaks out about horrifying ordeal for first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Chris_6678]

Well done Channel 7.

A man wrongly identified as the alleged kidnapper of four-year-old Cleo Smith was threatened with being speared and killed and sought protection from the police, sources close to the investigation told Daily Mail Australia.

Man wrongly identified as Cleo's kidnapper threatened with SPEARING

Man wrongly identified as Cleo Smith's abductor speaks out about horrifying ordeal for first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Surely the Police can come out and say the guy named in the ch7 article is not the guy in custody?

 

[chopflop]

Bit early to say he didnt harm her. They havnt even tested things at the lab yet. They havnt interviewed the girl or the offender yet either.
Gotta jump thru a heap of hoops before they can question him, as hes an aboriginal and u now have to have all sorts of legal council involved.

What like legal aid?! That everyone is entitled to?

Give me a spell

 

[Kurve]

Surely the Police can come out and say the guy named in the ch7 article is not the guy in custody?

Channel 7 realised their mistake fairly quickly but it was too late because social media went to work within minutes.

 

[chopflop]

Well done Channel 7.

A man wrongly identified as the alleged kidnapper of four-year-old Cleo Smith was threatened with being speared and killed and sought protection from the police, sources close to the investigation told Daily Mail Australia.

Man wrongly identified as Cleo's kidnapper threatened with SPEARING

Man wrongly identified as Cleo Smith's abductor speaks out about horrifying ordeal for first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Civil suit incoming

Channel 7 gotta pay the price for being "first"

 

[Belnakor]

Well done Channel 7.

A man wrongly identified as the alleged kidnapper of four-year-old Cleo Smith was threatened with being speared and killed and sought protection from the police, sources close to the investigation told Daily Mail Australia.

Man wrongly identified as Cleo's kidnapper threatened with SPEARING

Man wrongly identified as Cleo Smith's abductor speaks out about horrifying ordeal for first time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

wow. absolutely disgraceful. The bloke must have been shitting himself and all because the media seem to be immune to any repurcussions.

They need to be given a serious serious fine for this shit.

 

[Belnakor]

Civil suit incoming

Channel 7 gotta pay the price for being "first"

when this has happened in the past they have been hit with a wet lettuce. Thats why they do it. They don't care.

 

[Lions777]

when this has happened in the past they have been hit with a wet lettuce. Thats why they do it. They don't care.

Cool them down anyway

 

[Wombot]

any maybe he has been using the guise of the Bratz and Frozen dolls to lurk on parents (any parent not just Ellie/Jake) Facebook sites using false identity. And maybe when he has done this he has offered to sell Bratz and Frozen doll merchandise to parents, and that means he would find the actual addresses of people he wished to stalk and then the rest is history. Is this a guise being used by pedos through Facebook and other social media sites like TikTok Instagram Ebay etc etc etc?

This arrest is the tip of the iceberg!

I’m actually thinking by looking at his rumoured Facebook activity that he may be using several accounts for talking to children. The cops should examine any computers he may have. Mind you I reckon it possible that he may have disposed of them in the last few weeks.

I still think the doll obsession may be a genuine interest and that this guy has unresolved gender issues. Also I’m not certain that his interest was sexual, but it’s still possible.

 

[BFew]

Channel 7 gotta pay the price for being "first"

First the worst

I liked this bit in the article on the wrongly accused.

'Mr Flowers was due to be interviewed on WA's Ngaarda radio station early on Thursday morning, but pulled out.
'Terrance Flowers has decided to pull out of his interview this morning because he has been talking with lawyers,' presenter Tangiora Hinaki said.'

Let his legal representation do the talking.

Kerry should start taking some personal responsibility and pony up the $$$ himself.
Like he did with that alleged war criminal he employed.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Footprints?

Like the possibly crime scene evidence ones I saw reported on last night in the media (see below)

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

'Miracle in dead of night after days of despair: ‘My name is Cleo’
by PAUL GARVEY
SENIOR REPORTER

PAIGE TAYLOR
INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, WA BUREAU CHIEF

NOVEMBER 3, 2021

The man in police custody on Wednesday was a familiar sight to neighbours approached by The Australian, though they said he hardly talked. They recalled frequently seeing him walking around the neighbourhood until he recently got a car. He had done some work in Carnarvon with Real Futures, a local work-for-the-dole program.'

'He is from a large Aboriginal family. Amid serious concerns of community tensions in coming days, extra police were flown in to Carnarvon on Wednesday.

Mr Dawson held a crisis meeting with about 20 Aboriginal elders, asking them to ignore hurtful or inflammatory comments on social media. Mr Dawson also asked the elders to encourage younger people not to respond to any goading or racism in the wake of the arrest. A senior Aboriginal woman, Gillian Snowball, was moved to tears when she told the meeting she had known the man in custody since he was a toddler.

“It’s a disgrace today, I feel ashamed,” she said. “I don’t want to walk down the street or go to the shops now.”

During the investigation, locals came to believe police had a footprint from the family’s campsite that they considered highly significant.

Police contacted people whose mobile phones had been detected in the area on October 15 and 16 and questioned them about their shoes.

One woman questioned twice told The Australian: “They said it was a random questionnaire but it was an interrogation because my phone was in the area and I didn’t mind because they have to be thorough. They wanted to know what size my shoes are and what kind of shoes I have.”'

As soon as she was found, and the Aboriginal neighbours were interviewed, it dawned on me that the kidnapper was likely to be Aboriginal. I'm so sorry for the Aboriginal community, there were always going to be disgusting anonymous pieces of work taking it out on them. Truly shameful.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Smiling Cleo clings to mum on first day of freedom

Cleo Smith has been pictured after her first night with her family since her disappearance.

www.google.com.au

I'd like no more pictures of Cleo to be published. It's bad for her and her family. But media being media...

 

[BFew]

Also I’m not certain that his interest was sexual

But their might be others around him that might be (even if only geographically living), and take the opportunity to abuse/assault things he might collect.
Particularly with him leaving living dolls in the home alone in the dark of night, like he did with Cleo.

 

[tenderwarrior]

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Note the photoshopping of the pic of the man in the ambulance - in the original an officer was holding up a blanket almost completely hiding the man in the bed. Now he is quite visible and has a Big White Bandage.
Shoddy but typical "journalism".

Note the inability to understand that initially the offender had his head (and bandage) visible before having his face covered by the blanket.. thus giving opportunities for photos to be taken of him both visible and covered..

 

[Wombot]

But their might be others around him that might be (even if only geographically living), and take the opportunity to abuse/assault things he might collect.
Particularly with him leaving living dolls in the home alone in the dark of night, like he did with Cleo.

Possibly. I’m sure that will be investigated but so far there is no evidence of this. It’s likely that he was a loner.

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It’s possible he has associates but it’s possible that they aren’t in Carnarvon, and I doubt that he had opportunity to leave during that three weeks. It’s just that those with such interests generally aren’t concentrated, they’re spread out geographically. Carnarvon is a small place. He may be there due to the benefits of living with his grandmother in state housing and stuck around solely due to the affordable rent/ government housing.

 

[gordo2016]

When I was threatened with a spearing from an aboriginal in a community I was teaching in I, I had to leave very quickly and returned about a week later when things had calmed down. I hope this Terrance Flowers is safe, channel 7 should be paying for him and his family to get out of there and then after that he should sue them and take them to the cleaners.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

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Note the inability to understand that initially the offender had his head (and bandage) visible before having his face covered by the blanket.. thus giving opportunities for photos to be taken of him both visible and covered..

If you can't see that the photo is very badly photoshopped and the bandage brightened and enhanced to the size of a turban and the blanket the officer is holding is a very strange shape then the inability is misplaced.

 

[BFew]

Possibly. I’m sure that will be investigated but so far there is no evidence of this. It’s likely that he was a loner.
I assume that he was a self-loather and didn’t want to associate with the indigenous community.

I was more thinking of what could have happened in a situation like this (but probably didn't),
and the risk of someone in this sort of situation breaking in, as opposed to being invited in.

 

[BigPond101]

When I was threatened with a spearing from an aboriginal in a community I was teaching in I, I had to leave very quickly and returned about a week later when things had calmed down. I hope this Terrance Flowers is safe, channel 7 should be paying for him and his family to get out of there and then after that he should sue them and take them to the cleaners.

What did they want to spear you for ?