Ablett Reported

[Hoops]

I'm struggling to see the difference between Cousins last week and Ablett this week. Both were hits after a player had handballed, both collected the opponent high with enough force to knock the player down.

Cousins at least had his feet on the ground when he made contact. Ablett is off the ground when he makes contact which makes it harder to argue he was protecting himself.

Does anyone have footage of Counsins hit?

 

[Sttew]

Does anyone have footage of Counsins hit?

This happens every week. “Player X incident is identical to Player Y incident” that happened many moons ago. When you finally compare the two you could write a thesis on the differences.....

 

[WilloTree]

Similar to the Fyfe one last year. 1 week. Maybe 1 week downgraded.

Freo challenged the 1 week suspension without success, but Geelong might have more luck.

 

[Sirlemsip]

It is an unfortunate situation.

In my mind both the Cousins and GAJ hits were not of sufficient force to warrant a suspension - only a fine.

I think if the GAJ hit had happened first, then they would possibly have justified it to give him a fine, and then they would have been forced to do the same with Cousins.

As the incidents happened the other way around, Cousins was given a week and therefore GAJ should be given the same.

SPS played on in the match after being hit by Cousins, and also played the following week.
I have no doubt that Shiel will play next week as well.

Consistency is all the fans want.

 

[donbooger]

Similar to the Fyfe one last year. 1 week. Maybe 1 week downgraded.

Freo challenged the 1 week suspension without success, but Geelong might have more luck.

That one is similar, Fyfe hit him a bit harder though. I think that would make Abletts low impact and a fine which is more then then I thought it would be actually.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Not much force in it, Shiel played it up. I'm fine with a fine.

 

[donbooger]

I watched the cousins one, definitely more impact, much like the Fyfe one. Ablett still in line for a fine and low impact.

 

[Sttew]

Not much force in it, Shiel played it up. I'm fine with a fine.

But Shiell wiI’ll allege the hit affected the accuracy of his kicking

 

[donbooger]

But Shiell wiI’ll allege the hit affected the accuracy of his kicking

Take it to tribunal and bring reams of video evidence showing that his kicking that day was consistant with the usual spraying.

 

[BF Tiger]

Lol nothing to see at all. Thrown out in two minutes.

Open hand with no elbow.

Defenders would get rubbed out for every spoil in the game if this was suspendable as the arms also do this in marking contests

An open hand you say... no elbow you say... time to take off the Geelong goggles.

 

[STPer18]

Not worried at all, we've got Hocking and Whately for situations like this.

 

[Iago]

Cheers for posting those photos. Clearly no elbow, all forearm.

 

[Tex9798]

This happens every week. “Player X incident is identical to Player Y incident” that happened many moons ago. When you finally compare the two you could write a thesis on the differences.....

Literally happened last well, Google it, it's not that hard.

Similar incidents in that both players got their opponents with an elbow to the head.

There is nothing in it but Cousins, Dusty, Grimes all got a week for very low impact hits to the head with an elbow.

 

[Spursfan]

Cheers for posting those photos. Clearly no elbow, all forearm.

This makes it OK? Gutless act on a defenceless player

 

[BF Tiger]

For comparision...

 

[Iago]

This makes it OK? Gutless act on a defenceless player

It's outrageous isn't it! I demand Dermott's opinion!

 

[Underarm]

Either not enough force or a week.

If its a week, the Tribunal will probably downgrade it.

 

[Spursfan]

It's outrageous isn't it! I demand Dermott's opinion!

I'm sure it would be you never spare an Essendon player an elbow

 

[Iago]

Except in many more words.

 

[donbooger]

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The force came from the left hand, if there was anything behind that right forearm Shiel wouldn't be getting up.

Its the left hand to the left side of Shiel's jaw that may get him into trouble not the moment pictured.

 

[Sirlemsip]

Force is irrelevant. I have no doubt that everyone will agree on the following:
- High contact (to the head)
- Low impact

What will be at question is the intent.

As I said earlier, the Cousins hit was automatically graded as 'intentional' based on the MRO/Christensen's view that any hit to the head by an elbow would be considered intentional.

Based on the vision it appears that GAJ's elbow collected Shiel's head.

Therefore 1 week suspension.

Just accept it and move on. You won't need GAJ against North anyway and he could do with a week's rest.

 

[asanque]

Neither should be suspended, but just waiting for the spin from Christian for letting Ablett off on this one after a very similar incident last week.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

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Cheers for posting ablett a forearm on the follow through to the neck of shiel and not even his head.

Will get thrown out in a second for obvious reasons

 

[Desslok]

Regardless of the MRO / Tribunals' findings, Ablett deserves a week off. The criticism Geelong received last year when Ablett came home from WA after doing his hamstring (round3 i believe) was deafening .. we've just passed round 7 now.

Interesting test case tho, i may be geelong biased, but the elbow/forearm looks more like a pushing motion rather than an attempt to do some real damage. If elbow/forearm to the head is to be considered a week regardless of force then i guess gary will enjoy a week off. On the other hand .. compare this to Tom Mitchell vs Goldstein.

 

[Satchel]

very similar to the Cousins one but he will get off as is a name player with a chance at the brownlow whereas Cousins is a no name