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Ok. I'll bite.
WC cannot trade their first round pick. This season or next season.
SPS is out of contract so what Salary relief?
Seriously.
Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3
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WC cannot trade their first round pick. This season or next season.
SPS is out of contract so what Salary relief?
Seriously.
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You have to get Cerra to agree to come to Carlton first.
There may be exemptions granted for some trades due to Covid.
Special considerations for people wanting to head home
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So Cerr A is approximately 2000/0.7*.9= approx 2600 points, or pick 2. Didn't an older Tim Kelly get traded for 3200 points or so.
I think fair is Cerra+2022r3 for 6,25, 2022r2.
I think more. A pick 5 is about 2000 points, say about 70% chance of being an a grade player ( say for 10 seasons between 22 and 31.)
So Cerr A is approximately 2000/0.7*.9= approx 2600 points, or pick 2. Didn't an older Tim Kelly get traded for 3200 points or so.
I think fair is Cerra+2022r3 for 6,25, 2022r2.
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Love to do an assessment on carltons drafted midfielders with top 30 picks and how many have worked out.
At a guess the going rate must be something in the region of 5-7 top 30 picks produces 1 high level player.
Carlton, based off your drafting history if you can get Cerra for picks 6 and 24 ****ing go for it.
get a pick back like a 3rd and that’s gold.
At a guess the going rate must be something in the region of 5-7 top 30 picks produces 1 high level player.
Carlton, based off your drafting history if you can get Cerra for picks 6 and 24 ****ing go for it.
get a pick back like a 3rd and that’s gold.
Tom Mitchell - traded for pick 14 at the same age Cerra is, after a year in which he averaged 28 disposals per game, got 12 Brownlow votes and was one of the best players on the ground in a grand final
The same year Dion Prestia would have been traded for pick 14 if Richmond had it. We had pick 6, so we traded that and the following year's 38 for Prestia and pick 24. Prestia had already established himself as one of the best clearance players in the game and an elite two-way runner.
Cerra's a good player. But he's not worth more than those two. Picks 6 and 25? I have some jousting sticks you might be interested in.
The same year Dion Prestia would have been traded for pick 14 if Richmond had it. We had pick 6, so we traded that and the following year's 38 for Prestia and pick 24. Prestia had already established himself as one of the best clearance players in the game and an elite two-way runner.
Cerra's a good player. But he's not worth more than those two. Picks 6 and 25? I have some jousting sticks you might be interested in.
No other team will offer more than #6.
No need to offer more.
The key question is who is nominated
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Depends if you want him that bad. If Fremantle say no then there is no way you get him without increasing offer?
Then he goes to Norths via PSD.
Or we draft him with #6 in ND
Nobody else likely to pay more
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Pick 8 in the ND. I'd really doubt he gets to you if you dont trade for him.
He won't get to you mate if you don't trade for him haha!
00Stinger
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Go get your Player at pick 14 and lets see if he is better than Cerra
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Cerra is 2 years younger than prestia.
I also think mitchell went cheap as Sydney agreed to " owe hawthorn on the next trade" in exchange for Hawthorn not matching Lance Franklin.
I also think mitchell went cheap as Sydney agreed to " owe hawthorn on the next trade" in exchange for Hawthorn not matching Lance Franklin.
A. Meaningless. Prestia was better-performed and only 24.
B. Lol.
So Cerra has 2-3 years of improvement before then?
Carlton have used picks on players who haven't performed for over a decade, whether due to bad recruiting or development who knows. Here is a player who is ready to go, has vast improvement, will have ten years left, and will be an amazing companion to the likes of Walsh and Cripps. Pick 6 and 24 is totally worth it, Carlton fans are crazy for thinking otherwise. How many pick 24s work out? what are the odds? Especially in this draft which has a lot of uncertainty and potential issues due to covid restricting development.
Carlton board should just offer that and be done with it, get it over with nice and early. Not worth fighting over.
Carlton board should just offer that and be done with it, get it over with nice and early. Not worth fighting over.
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Carlton fans are crazy for thinking otherwise. How many pick 24s work out?
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Quite a few as it turns out, including Jack Steele, Tim Kelly and Josh Dunkley, plus plenty of quality players in that pick 22 - 26 range, including Cam Guthrie m, Jack Darling and a bunch of others. Lots.
Recruiters have really upped their batting average over the past decade, which means 6 & 24 is high price to pay for a guy who is developing nicely but nowhere near a star yet.
Pick 24 is a solid chance of being a best 22 AFL player most years now, possibly even better than that. Is Cerra worth pick 6 plus that? Big call.
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Quite a few as it turns out, including Jack Steele, Tim Kelly and Josh Dunkley, plus plenty of quality players in that pick 22 - 26 range, including Cam Guthrie m, Jack Darling and a bunch of others. Lots.
Recruiters have really upped their batting average over the past decade, which means 6 & 24 is high price to pay for a guy who is developing nicely but nowhere near a star yet.
Pick 24 is a solid chance of being a best 22 AFL player most years now, possibly even better than that. Is Cerra worth pick 6 plus that? Big call.
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Quite a few as it turns out, including Jack Steele, Tim Kelly and Josh Dunkley, plus plenty of quality players in that pick 22 - 26 range, including Cam Guthrie, Jack Darling and a bunch of others. Lots.
Recruiters have really upped their batting average over the past decade, which means 6 & 24 is high price to pay for a guy who is developing nicely but nowhere near a star yet.
Pick 24 is a solid chance of being a best 22 AFL player most years now, possibly even better than that. Is Cerra worth pick 6 plus that? Big call.
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Yeah, about the only way a first will be involved for him.
Good luck with him btw
I think the SPS deal gets done for WCE 2022 third rounder. Every pundit in the world is backing WCE to fall further.
Best of luck in the Cerra trade and I hope your club picks up a player that develops at least as well.
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Don't worry Snuff he is just taking the piss.
WC cant trade out their first rounder as the AFL rules deme that they must use a first rounder this draft as they haven't used one in the last three drafts.
He is just being a shyte stirrer.
