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What is your opinion on the Goodes incident?
Adam Goodes lacks courage in the contested situations when he goes in feet first
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What is your opinion on the Goodes incident?
so dermie got his comeuppance from boomer harvey and now adam goodes and john longmire. dermie seems to overextrapolate his theories, especially when it involves Hawthorn. He is a flog and in danger of being the neil harvey of the afl
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See I don't believe that he would be so stupid to actually believe that stereotype.
The stupidity lies in introducing it into the discussion.
And I was right about Biffin:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/4147.html
That it was a lot less clumsy and dangerous than swinging a boot at the ball with someone over it. See, answering questions directly isn't hard. Go back and give it a try.
mattyflux
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Reckless act. No intent to hurt but just stupid. Simple as that. He should stop doing it and it was worse than Nat Fyfes kick that he got rubbed out for.
A Swallow
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Goodes has a history of this, and I'm not sure how he can get off without sanction from the MRP time and again. One week for the Surjan incident is complete b*llshit. He will never get called out by the main media personalities either, they are too busy trying to please the AFL all the time.
Fantastic footballer, but it's not like this is the first time he has done something reckless to keep his own body out of harm's way. Can't see why he would stop either, considering he gets away with it.
Fantastic footballer, but it's not like this is the first time he has done something reckless to keep his own body out of harm's way. Can't see why he would stop either, considering he gets away with it.
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Paul Roos muscle memory arguement the worst biased commentary I have ever heard from that man. Could he blow anymore smoke up Goodes arse after he did a dog act.
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Pose a question worth answering and i'll have a crack at it.
If that is genuinely your opinion, then you're not worth discussing this with as you are seriously deluded, i'm out.
By then he was behind Gibson, so he could have put his head down, but it wouldnt have helped, as he wouldnt reach the ball. He could have waited and tackled Gibson, but I suspect he was still in, `how do I get the ball first, despite being behind mode.`.
Have to agree with that, it shouldn't have even been a free kick.
I did and you ignored it. How is taking a swing at a ball that another player is over (with more force than Goodes did) any less dangerous or clumsy than Goodes' incident?
A Swallow
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If you're serious, it must be an amazing thing to be that blindly biased.
Given both Surjan and Goodes both dropped and slid at the ball (Surjan studs up, Goodes knees forward), and that the entire incident took place at sprinting pace over the course of about a second, what exactly would you have done differently? Not a generic action like 'tackle' or 'bump', but exact steps to attack the ball without getting your legs slid into or hitting Surjan high.
Mainly basing my opinion on the "fallout" from the incident the following week where Gary Rohan had his leg broken.
See ball. Push ball forward & away from contest to team mates advantage. Doesn't nearly kicking a blokes head off ring a bell with you mate. This stuff wasn't an issue when I played. Game is different now. Don't forget Goodes has been playing now since about 1997. Plenty rule changes have been implemented. He is a big man playing like a small man.
Dermie is barracking rather than commentating here.
mattyflux
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He was trying to kick the ball, only problem was he kicked Gibbo instead. I don't think anyone has said the guy went in there trying to maim Gibbo, it was just a careless act that potentially could have done a lot more harm. Gibbo was in quite a bit of discomfort after it and had to leave the field.
I think there are plenty of smarter ways to attack the ball without throwing your leg at it while your opponent is over it. He could have kept his feet and attacked the ball or bumped Gibbo but he chose not to put his head over it and throw his foot at it. If it was a one off incident then nothing would be made of it. I think Dermie's point was Goodes has history with this kind of thing and chooses to not put his head over the pill when at times he probably should. I agree with him on this and at the same time still think Goodes is a gun and a fair player. Probably just one thing he could do a little better.
Read it again two heads..... I said most. I stand by that considering there is only about a total of 16 open age clubs in Sydney and about 2 our west.
A Swallow
Norm Smith Medallist
I'm not sure what relevance that holds in regards to what I posted, but if you're saying that my opinion on Goodes is void because of what a North Melbourne player did in a game, then that is ridiculous.
Or are you saying that it should not have even been a free kick to Surjan because the umpires (who probably weren't the same as those in the Rohan incident) should have seen into the future and realised that something unfortunate was going to happen to a Sydney player, therefore Goodes should not be penalised for his recklessness? I'm confused.
Lol
So punching someone in the head is Ok because it's not as bad a stabbing them....... Lol
Anyone can be drunks mate, not sure what point you make?
So as an ex player do you think what Goodes did it Gibson legs with his legs is Ok?
I said most (not all) have not played.... Is that a fair assumptions considering there are only a hand full of open age Clubs in Sydney?
So you live in Melbourne hey? Not Sydney?
I think it's fairly obvious that I wasn't suggesting that, it would be nonsensical. I understand that is how your mind works, though.
The MRP / tribunal decided on Goodes and Thomas. I don't think they change from one week to the next, but if they were randomly selected from passing pedestrians, it would explain their results. All I would like is some consistency. The two incidents were in consecutive weeks in the same competition. Accepting that breaking a leg is fair play (which I assume you do), bumping a thigh is not worth a free kick. Alternatively, if Goodes bumping Surjan deserved a week, Thomas deserved a penalty for his carelessness in line with the impact.
