Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[Godfather32]

Agree the 90s side would be my favourite.

If another Eagle side can ever do better or equal 2 flags in 3 years and 3 GFs in 4 years then they can enter the chat.

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So much quality across every line, Matera is still my favourite player of all time

 

[Shueygod]

Nope, the 90's team was incredible and more talented than the 2018 team

Definitely was a talented team but don’t see how anyone can say more talented.

I’m taking that top 12 of the ‘20 list every time.

 

[Godfather32]

Definitely was a talented team but don’t see how anyone can say more talented.

I’m taking that top 12 of the ‘18 team every time.

And you'd be wrong, the 90s team dominated at a time where it was much harder for an interstate team to win, if you think the Vic Bias is bad now it was a hell of a lot worse back then.
The only place the 2018 team has a claim as being better is in the ruck division, and that's if you include Nic Nat who obviously didn't play in the GF team

 

[Tugga27]

Agree to

Definitely was a talented team but don’t see how anyone can say more talented.

I’m taking that top 12 of the ‘20 list every time.

1991 more talented by a long way.
Agree to disagree.

 

[Shueygod]

And you'd be wrong, the 90s team dominated at a time where it was much harder for an interstate team to win, if you think the Vic Bias is bad now it was a hell of a lot worse back then.
The only place the 2018 team has a claim as being better is in the ruck division, and that's if you include Nic Nat who obviously didn't play in the GF team

The forward line is miles better, midfield including Naitanui better, 90s backline is better but McGovern, Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard + support is hardly a scrub backline.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Definitely was a talented team but don’t see how anyone can say more talented.

I’m taking that top 12 of the ‘20 list every time.

Can I ask how old you were in the early 90s?

 

[Shueygod]

Can I ask how old you were in the early 90s?

Early 20s

 

[Shueygod]

Are we really going to pretend the 90s had a better forward line than what will be our two all time leading goal kickers, an AA forward in Ryan, Rioli and Cripps.

 

[Godfather32]

The forward line is miles better, midfield including Naitanui better, 90s backline is better but McGovern, Hurn, Barrass, Sheppard + support is hardly a scrub backline.

Forward line you could possibly argue is a wash, the midfield in the 90s wins in a landslide and the backline in the 90s is better.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Are we really going to pretend the 90s had a better forward line than what will be our two all time leading goal kickers, an AA forward in Ryan, Rioli and Cripps.

Forward line, no.

Midfield and backline, yes.

 

[Godfather32]

Are we really going to pretend the 90s had a better forward line than what will be our two all time leading goal kickers, an AA forward in Ryan, Rioli and Cripps.

I woudn't say better, but fairly even imo.
People seem to massively understate how good Sumich was in his peak and forget how good Brett Heady, Lewis and Wilson were

 

[Shueygod]

Forward line, no.

Midfield and backline, yes.

Agree with backline, I think midfield is at worst a draw considering the dominance of Naitanui.

I am basing it on a hypothetical where we have that list (Naitanui, Shuey, Yeo, Kelly) fit together.

The gulf between the forward lines is certainly bigger than that of the back lines.

 

[Shueygod]

I woudn't say better, but fairly even imo.
People seem to massively understate how good Sumich was in his peak and forget how good Brett Heady, Lewis and Wilson were

Gap between the forwards is far bigger than the gap in defence.

 

[Godfather32]

Gap between the forwards is far bigger than the gap in defence.

It's really not

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Agree with backline, I think midfield is at worst a draw considering the dominance of Naitanui.

I am basing it on a hypothetical where we have that list (Naitanui, Shuey, Yeo, Kelly) fit together.

The gulf between the forward lines is certainly bigger than that of the back lines.

That’s a massive hypothetical though, isn’t it. How many games would those four players have played together so far?

 

[Shueygod]

Certainly some nostalgia happening in here, I would suggest a combined team would have 50/50 representation with some tough calls either way.

 

[Cuzz09]

Peter Wilson and Brett Heady were those guys you could set your watch to to play a great game and get you over the line.

Sumich, as much as people find him weird or whatever, was a Gun FF.

JK, JD, Lecca, Cripps, Rioli was prob more talented though for sure.

The 90s backline was "all time" (dwayne) It ranks as the best in VFL/AFL let alone Eagles history

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[Shueygod]

That’s a massive hypothetical though, isn’t it. How many games would those four players have played together so far?

Of course it’s a hypothetical, we are talking about the talent of the two lists are we not.

It's really not

Ridiculous.

 

[Cuzz09]

06 prob had the biggest gaps in talent across zones.

Midfield elite
Backline solid
Forward line workman like

Mids and backs did so much to cover fwd woes

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[Cuzz09]

Also as good as 06 era mids were we constantly got behind by large margins

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Of course it’s a hypothetical, we are talking about the talent of the two lists are we not.

I thought we were talking about whether it’s fair to have expected the recent team to have won as many flags as the 90s teams.

If their most talented players couldn’t all get on the park together, I think that’s a factor.

 

[Shueygod]

06 prob had the biggest gaps in talent across zones.

Midfield elite
Backline solid
Forward line workman like

Mids and backs did so much to cover fwd woes

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Backline solid is harsh imo, was still an elite backline.

 

[Shueygod]

I thought we were talking about whether it’s fair to have expected the recent team to have won as many flags as the 90s teams.

If their most talented players couldn’t all get on the park together, I think that’s a factor.

In hindsight one is probably a reasonable amount considering the injuries/Rioli issues.

If you told me at the end of 2018 that Naitanui would be AA 20/21 and we added Kelly in 2020 after he came 4th in the Brownlow and just had 30 and 3 in a final….

I would’ve assumed we had at the very least 1 more.

 

[Cuzz09]

Backline solid is harsh imo, was still an elite backline.

Fair enough.

I was comparing it to the midfield.

The backline was very reliable without being flashy, apart from Wirra and a few Beau bumps, marks etc

But you'd back Glass to beat his man most contests for sure

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[Cuzz09]

In hindsight one is probably a reasonable amount considering the injuries/Rioli issues.

If you told me at the end of 2018 that Naitanui would be AA 20/21 and we added Kelly in 2020 after he came 4th in the Brownlow and just had 30 and 3 in a final….

I would’ve assumed we had at the very least 1 more.

Yeah you'd assume we'd at least make a Prelim

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