Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[greatwhiteshark]

Kids could just be spent?

Well the young people these days do seem to be very tired all the time.

 

[Godfather32]

Well the young people these days do seem to be very tired all the time.

It's from doing too many TikTok dances, they just never stop

 

[KERRPOW]

I cant wait for the end of the season to.see.who will get culled and who.will. retire

 

[the harry]

Well the young people these days do seem to be very tired all the time.

How do you explain a hamstring going in the first 10 minutes of a match?

 

[ziad]

How do you explain a hamstring going in the first 10 minutes of a match?

what are the odds, are there stats for every minute of games? The data may help explain it, or demonstrate it is quite random.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

How do you explain a hamstring going in the first 10 minutes of a match?

Very difficult to know, didn't warm up as he should? Unlucky? No idea to be honest.

 

[southcoast]

Very difficult to know, didn't warm up as he should? Unlucky? No idea to be honest.

I’d also add been working too hard for a long time so muscle fatigue.


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[Bender_]

Ginbey was tunnelled by Pickett early in the first quarter and got up sore, won't take long to find it.

Pickett's lawyer released a statement saying Pickett was preparing for his upcoming time "in the yard".

 

[Grahame]

Reckon Ginbey - like a few too many others - is probably pushing himself too hard because of the lack of players. Difference is he’s a relatively raw first year. So probably not a surprise he was gonna blow up some time.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

I heard that Ben Wyatt approached the cheer squad after the game on Sunday and mentioned that the club will be doing a review of the surface at Lathlain Park believing it may be impacting player welfare.

ABOUT TIME TREV.

I hope they check the heritage first

 

[Keys]

I hope they check the heritage first

Maybe we didn’t and that’s the cause of our issues

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I think I saw Simmo has guaranteed Gaff straight back into the 22 next week?

He played okay on the weekend but this was always worst case scenario. You just know he and Sheed and the rest of the credits crew will be there R1 next year, no questions asked.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

I think I saw Simmo has guaranteed Gaff straight back into the 22 next week?

He played okay on the weekend but this was always worst case scenario. You just know he and Sheed and the rest of the credits crew will be there R1 next year, no questions asked.

Can't wait for the 2024 pre-season reports of these guys running like 18 year olds again.

 

[Chump Change]

I think I saw Simmo has guaranteed Gaff straight back into the 22 next week?

He played okay on the weekend but this was always worst case scenario. You just know he and Sheed and the rest of the credits crew will be there R1 next year, no questions asked.

I would have dropped Gaff ages ago, but I suspect it's more about not pushing the kids too hard, too early, rather than his credits in the bank scheme.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I would have dropped Gaff ages ago, but I suspect it's more about not pushing the kids too hard, too early, rather than his credits in the bank scheme.

What does not push the kids to hard mean? They are 18 year old young men raring to go with all the energy anyone could dream of. They will be going hard as hell all the time naturally.
Maybe if we stopped treating them like 12 year old kids they would develop much quicker and be the player we actually thought we drafted. The sooner young players get the hang of it the better, no point holding them back in any way shape or form.

 

[Bender_]

What does not push the kids to hard mean? They are 18 year old young men raring to go with all the energy anyone could dream of. They will be going hard as hell all the time naturally.
Maybe if we stopped treating them like 12 year old kids they would develop much quicker and be the player we actually thought we drafted. The sooner young players get the hang of it the better, no point holding them back in any way shape or form.

You're way off the mark here. Have a look at the careers of players like Swallow, Rowell and O'meara. These guys had bodies of grown mem when they started and were thrown straight into and have had most of their careers so far dramatically slowed by niggling injuries. Much the same Cripps and Walsh, throw them in too much too early and the wear and tear adds up due to that early exposure.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You're way off the mark here. Have a look at the careers of players like Swallow, Rowell and O'meara. These guys had bodies of grown mem when they started and were thrown straight into and have had most of their careers so far dramatically slowed by niggling injuries. Much the same Cripps and Walsh, throw them in too much too early and the wear and tear adds up due to that early exposure.

That is just guessing, for every player you named you could name the opposite of ones who go straight in with no issues. You reckon Rowell wouldn't of done a knee if he had only half trained that week and only played 30 minutes of the game?
Every player is of course different but putting them all in the same pot is ridiculous. Some are far more ready than others. Just generally saying we need to be careful with the kids makes the AFL sound like a kindergarton.

 

[Rowan18]

That is just guessing, for every player you named you could name the opposite of ones who go straight in with no issues. You reckon Rowell wouldn't of done a knee if he had only half trained that week and only played 30 minutes of the game?
Every player is of course different but putting them all in the same pot is ridiculous. Some are far more ready than others. Just generally saying we need to be careful with the kids makes the AFL sound like a kindergarton.

That's a good point, Gaff and Darling coped alright. So did Selwood from Geelong.

 

[Bender_]

Gaff was sub so much he got the nickname Kermit.

Darling is and has always been a bit of a freak with his recuperating powers and was almost fully grown when drafted.

18-19 year old kid's bodies are still growing and subjecting them to wear and tear early and thinking that it's unlikely to have an effect down the track is a bit naive. When you have the chance to ease them into their possible 15 years of getting hammered by taking it easy for the first year or so why wouldn't you?

Sure it's not the same for every player - of course there will be exceptions, but the cost of finding out if they are up for it early surely isn't worth the risk.

I look forward to some sort of "snowflake woke generation" type reply.

 

[FKASC]

Gaff was sub so much he got the nickname Kermit.

Darling is and has always been a bit of a freak with his recuperating powers and was almost fully grown when drafted.

18-19 year old kid's bodies are still growing and subjecting them to wear and tear early and thinking that it's unlikely to have an effect down the track is a bit naive. When you have the chance to ease them into their possible 15 years of getting hammered by taking it easy for the first year or so why wouldn't you?

Sure it's not the same for every player - of course there will be exceptions, but the cost of finding out if they are up for it early surely isn't worth the risk.

I look forward to some sort of "snowflake woke generation" type reply.

Go do another woke dance on your tick tock you snowflake

 

[Seadog]

Well the young people these days do seem to be very tired all the time.

While some of the older people are just tiresome.

 

[Bender_]

Go do another woke dance on your tick tock you snowflake

Um, ok boomer

Do people still say that?

 

[Doashuey]

That's a good point, Gaff and Darling coped alright. So did Selwood from Geelong.

All very durable players. Problem is, and it is what GWS is ignoring, most 18 year-olds are still in a growth phase so are more prone to injury when the loads in AFL are applied without restriction. Its not a matter of how much energy they have, the majority of young players will still have growth plate, ligament and tendon issues if they are pushed too hard at the extreme levels of AFL without proper management as their bodies are not fully developed and able to cope with the loads week in week out.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Gaff was sub so much he got the nickname Kermit.

Darling is and has always been a bit of a freak with his recuperating powers and was almost fully grown when drafted.

18-19 year old kid's bodies are still growing and subjecting them to wear and tear early and thinking that it's unlikely to have an effect down the track is a bit naive. When you have the chance to ease them into their possible 15 years of getting hammered by taking it easy for the first year or so why wouldn't you?

Sure it's not the same for every player - of course there will be exceptions, but the cost of finding out if they are up for it early surely isn't worth the risk.

I look forward to some sort of "snowflake woke generation" type reply.

Hear what you are saying but not sure if your conclusion - it's not worth the risk is right. I mean would Collingwood be where they are without Nick Daicos? Even Port, JHF has been great for them and people forget that Butters and Rozee have been automatic selections since being drafted almost.

I think young players need to be managed but if it's worth the risk completely depends on the value the player will potentially bring.

 

[FKASC]

Um, ok boomer

Do people still say that?

Only boomers say that