Banter Adelaide Board's Combined Politics/Covid discussion Banter Thread (WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED)

[Cap]

One or my most hated politicians... who if elected as leader will only send them further backwards... which isn't good for democracy as we need a strong opposition.

Looks like they are trying to find a decent moderate to be deputy.

It's interesting, assuming there is any truth in the articles, about the fight to return to the centre and the fight to go further right.

 

[Slippery Pete]

The Teal “Independents” are not independents, they are a coalition of climate-activist funded candidates, who duped the electorate into voting for them under the auspices of the trusty “independent” banner.

This garbage that it was some kind of female-voter backlash against the Coalition is just horseshit.

People voted for these “independents” to ram it up the major parties, not realizing it was, for all intents and purposes, a vote for Spaghetti Albanese.

Anyway, whatever. I couldn’t stand seeing Flog Morrison get another term as PM, so who cares.

But this would be getting a LOT more negative press if it happened in reverse.

 

[Mutineer]

You know when you need to say it twice, it's usually a projection.

Are you ok? Need a break?

Rattled...

 

[Cap]

Rattled...

What exactly am I rattled about?

Just so I can be aware?

But are you sure you are ok?

 

[Cap]

The Teal “Independents” are not independents, they are a coalition of climate-activist funded candidates, who duped the electorate into voting for them under the auspices of the trusty “independent” banner.

This garbage that it was some kind of female-voter backlash against the Coalition is just horseshit.

People voted for these “independents” to ram it up the major parties, not realizing it was, for all intents and purposes, a vote for Spaghetti Albanese.

Anyway, whatever. I couldn’t stand seeing Flog Morrison get another term as PM, so who cares.

But this would be getting a LOT more negative press if it happened in reverse.

What's your take? Just everyone hated Morrison? Even a massive portion of his own primary vote?

 

[killtaker1993]

What exactly am I rattled about?

Just so I can be aware?

But are you sure you are ok?

He's a child posting animated 'memes' and other kiddie stuff. He's definitely not okay

 

[Cap]

He's a child posting animated 'memes' and other kiddie stuff. He's definitely not okay

Na, he's just an idiot who thought he was on a winner

He's just looking for a weird out. It's been a big weekend.

Edit - you must be happy though?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So when I mentioned the teals targeting the Libs and weakening them as being a bad outcome for democracy going forward, that was actually right, you need a strong opposition.

That's all on the Coalition for moving right & allowing the new Liberal moderates an agenda to campaign on & win.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I give it a couple of weeks max, cannot see Dan Andrews liking Dutton.

Dutton is going to be your man.

You do realise idiots can oppose each other...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I give it a couple of weeks max, cannot see Dan Andrews liking Dutton.

Dutton is going to be your man.

Not hard as most people hate Dutton.

Mind you I'm no fan of Andrews either.

 

[Cap]

Slippery Pete

Can't see you travelling to Belgium

Belgium introduces quarantine for monkeypox cases

A fourth case has been confirmed in the country.

www.google.com

 

[Mutineer]

That's all on the Coalition for moving right & allowing the new Liberal moderates an agenda to campaign on & win.

Liberal moderates...pull the other one Kano.
I'll happily visit this again in a couple of years when their voting preferences in Parliament will be there for everyone to see.

I refer you to Tealster Zali Steggall'd voting record who has already served a term in Parliament.
It's on the public record.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Mutineer - you still haven't explained how the only reason to the Tealsters won was because of money.... yet UAP who spent/wasted many, many, many times over didn't win a single seat.

Rather than laughing this off, how about you justify your claim.

I know you won't because you refuse to admit their voters left the liberals on policy alone!

 

[Cap]

Not hard as most people hate Dutton.

Mind you I'm no fan of Andrews either.

I really don't get why the Libs go Dutton outside no other choice.

 

[1970crow]

That's a part of the trend no doubt.

Doesn't explain why all the moderates abandoned the Libs.

It's like the Libs moved in a direction asy from the moderates, but we can't put on our finger on it can we.

Maybe the libs stayed exactly where they were whilst the voting public has shifted left. Or at least want an ironclad commitment on emissions reduction. I think the 5% lost can almost entirely be counted by adding the 2 factors together.

 

[1970crow]

So, Dutton, thoughts?

Yuk, comes across as a grunt that lacks natural intelligence. But then I was a huge fan of Turnbull and he turned out to be a toxic arsewipe.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Maybe the libs stayed exactly where they were whilst the voting public has shifted left. Or at least want an ironclad commitment on emissions reduction. I think the 5% lost can almost entirely be counted by adding the 2 factors together.

If the public have moved left, by definition the Coalition have moved right!

Either way, the coalition have lost the middle ground, much due to policy.

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer - you still haven't explained how the only reason to the Tealsters won was because of money.... yet UAP who spent/wasted many, many, many times over didn't win a single seat.

Rather than laughing this off, how about you justify your claim.

I know you won't because you refuse to admit their voters left the liberals on policy alone!

GET UP were also heavily involved but I see you conveniently ignored that.

The fact they did the the major leg work knocking on doors and letter box drops and placement of advertising material posing as Teal volunteers should tell you all you need to know about where the Teal candidates allegiances lay.

The fact that you refuse to accept the reasons I gave is on you.
And I might add likely the arsewipes that defaced Frydenberg's cornflutes etc.

 

[Cap]

Maybe the libs stayed exactly where they were whilst the voting public has shifted left. Or at least want an ironclad commitment on emissions reduction. I think the 5% lost can almost entirely be counted by adding the 2 factors together.

That is a possibility.

I doubt they'll ever tell us what the main issue was post review, but it would be fascinating.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Slippery Pete

Can't see you travelling to Belgium

Belgium introduces quarantine for monkeypox cases

A fourth case has been confirmed in the country.

www.google.com

Just what we ****ing need...

 

[fortunatecrow]

My suggestion is Albo was unpopular and there has been a general shift away from the major parties to smaller parties and minor parties as the public are disillusioned with the politics of the major parties.

Do you think this is reasonable?

The people who didn't want to vote for Scomo outnumbered the people who didn't want to vote for Albo.

Different voters had different reasons, most had several reasons. We now know which way they voted but anyone who says they know why is only guessing. And the idea that it was one thing, and the same thing for every voter, is laughable.

Pardon my nuance.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

GET UP were also heavily involved but I see you conveniently ignored that.

The fact they did the the major leg work knocking on doors and letter box drops and placement of advertising material posing as Teal volunteers should tell you all you need to know about where the Teal candidates allegiances lay.

The fact that you refuse to accept the reasons I gave is on you.

Yet UAP spent record money on election advertising & won nothing... so money is useless unless you have decent policies too!

 

[Cap]

GET UP were also heavily involved but I see you conveniently ignored that.

The fact they did the the major leg work knocking on doors and letter box drops and placement of advertising material posing as Teal volunteers should tell you all you need to know about where the Teal candidates allegiances lay.

The fact that you refuse to accept the reasons I gave is on you.
And I might add likely the arsewipes that defaced Frydenberg's cornflutes etc.

Maybe don't have a go at me for offering up nothing when you do even less.

It seems excessive to demand what you can't bring.

Name calling aside

 

[Mutineer]

Yet UAP spent record money on election advertising & won nothing... so money is useless unless you have decent policies too!

UAP candidates didn't have the GET UP army operatives on the ground but you can go on believing what you want I really don't give a gig what you think.

 

[Cap]

Yet UAP spent record money on election advertising & won nothing... so money is useless unless you have decent policies too!

It's a bit dire when the Libs biggest cheerleader thinks their Blue ribbon seats are just a well funded opposition away from losing (even if that opposition still would have spent less)