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List Mgmt. Adelaide Crows 2021 List Management thread
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Has hardly been discussed this off-season ...almost a forgotten man, given last years excitement
Entering 4th year as a Midfielder ......his time has to be now
If he can get injury free under the guidance of Burgess and with spots available in the midfield…he isn’t gonna get a much better opportunity than next year. We’ll soon see how much he wants it.
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Except here, almost nobody from Adelaide has been discussed this off-season. He was discussed at least as much as anyone when they mentioned his injuries.
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That’s not unusual though. Everyone goes a bit silly over their new toys each year. We’ll see the same after draft night when our 2021 picks are rated higher than guys like Pedlar, Berry, McAsey, Worrell.
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With ROC and Davis delisted, it looks like we might have our eyes on some delisted free agents. That or we are planning on upgrading everyone we can from the rookie to senior list...
IF we are looking at at least one DFA, the pickings seem pretty slim.
From the list, I'd say only the following might be considered:
Charlie Constable
Jarrod Brander
Trent Dumont
Out of these, only Constable and Brander would have any interest to me. Even then, it is probably only Constable that I'd be keen on.
Anyone heard any whispers? When can we sign these?
IF we are looking at at least one DFA, the pickings seem pretty slim.
From the list, I'd say only the following might be considered:
Charlie Constable
Jarrod Brander
Trent Dumont
Out of these, only Constable and Brander would have any interest to me. Even then, it is probably only Constable that I'd be keen on.
Anyone heard any whispers? When can we sign these?
I'd say it's fairly unlikely we'd be taking any DFAs at this stage. There's certainly nothing in the delisting of ROC & Davis to suggest it.
We still have only 4x senior list vacancies, at least one (possibly two) of which is (are) likely to be filled via rookie upgrade.
Regarding Hately, yes, see how much he wants it, although I don't doubt his ambition. I think it will be more a case of actually seeing what he has!
I'd say likely going with 2 live picks (4 and 33), upgrade one player - Keays, and leave one spot free.
Keays is the least likely to be upgraded - Butts & Strachan are both ahead of him in the upgrade queue, having spent an extra year on the rookie list already. I do, however, agree with you about using the 2 live picks.
I think we'll upgrade Butts before the ND. That would mean that we're only required to make 2x ND selections, but we still have the flexibility to make a 3rd selection if a suitable pick swap can be negotiated. If it doesn't happen, we upgrade Strachan after the ND. If it does, Strachan spends a 4th year on the rookie list. Either way, Keays gets a 3rd year on the rookie list.
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So if we split our 1st pick at the draft, and take 3 x ND selections, then upgrade Butts, what senior list and rookie spots do we have open?
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Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the rookie list? Players can be paid as much as they want on there (some doesn't go to the TPP), they don't need to be upgraded to play like they used to, they can be any age, they're the same as any other player on the list.
Why not just have one list and increase the TPP by the same amount as the rookie payments currently not included in the cap?
From an AFL perspective, it just appears to complicate things.
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How many picks are you planning to use?
What's this situation about the "agreed" pick swap between Pies/Adelaide? Any idea? Could it be our future 1st for pick 4 or something along those lines?
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What's this situation about the "agreed" pick swap between Pies/Adelaide? Any idea? Could it be our future 1st for pick 4 or something along those lines?
Came from a poster who's had close to a 100% accuracy with news this offseason.
3x ND selections + Butts upgrade would fill our senior list (noting that we've already added Dawson).
We'd have 2x rookie list vacancies (one from delisting Davis, one from upgrading Butts).
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Why would the Pies get pick 4 and then throw it away on Daicos, when they already have the points for that?
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no idea - and how would that even work with you guys as any pick would be eaten up on a Daicos bid
Edit. Unless we already have another pick trade set up with say Richmond where we get 7 & 15 for 4 and then after the Daicos bid, we flip 15 to you guys for your future 1st .... but that is a lot of moving parts
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it'd be a live trade after the Daicos bid, but i don't see any sense in us trading pick 4 for a future first.
Of all the bottom teams, Collingwood would be the worst to target for a future first, surely they're the most likely to move up the ladder next year, their list really isn't bottom 4 material. Hawthorn or perhaps Westcoast would be the ones to target.
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Presumably it happens after they've matched for Daicos.
Not sure why we would do that. It leaves our offseason really thin for a side that's going to the draft.
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Obviously the trade would take place after the bid is matched at 3.
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This is never going to happen lol
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But then, why would we trade out of the draft at that stage? It makes no sense.
There are two advantages:
- It gives teams added flexibility for how they manage their salary cap. Clubs like Adelaide, who have inexperienced lists without many highly paid players, have the option to go with a 38/4 list structure, in order to meet the minimum 5% requirement. Others who need to maximise their cap, can go with 36/6. That's approximately $160K either included or excluded from the cap.
- New draftees in the ND are given 2-year contracts, while newly drafted rookies are only given 12-months. This provides teams with the ability to bring in speculative (high risk/reward) players on short contracts. If they look OK, they can be re-contracted with longer contracts. If not, they can be cut quickly.
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Well you guys have been shopping around pick 4 actively. For pick 1 from North, for pick 2 from GWS, and for pick 7/15 from Richmond.
Clearly you guys are not content with just taking pick 4 to the draft, probably because you guys see greater value by trading it, since pick 4 effectively becomes pick 6 after Daicos/Darcy bids.
Or you guys just don't rate this draft at all. Or you think there's a clear top 4 in the draft (Hornes, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan), and all 4 will be gone by your pick.
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