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Incidentally, the argument that apparently 'no one is making' was expressly made.
News Adelaide Crows Camp Allegations and Rumors
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Incidentally, the argument that apparently 'no one is making' was expressly made.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/12/mcgovern-attempting-to-break-adelaide-contract-mcclure/ Here is the story McClure conveniently forgets he wrote about McGovern.
I think people can get caught up in detail and forget the most pertinent facts.
1. The camp was organised, unauthorised, by Burton who, aside from being an idiot, was not at the club during the Walsh tragedy and therefore had no feel for the players. He took a squad that was bound by tragedy and broke them apart.
2. The camp was run by a Company formed by an ex muso notorious for trying to find "the next money making scheme" with a program that leant heavily on a discredited and heavily criticised "mind training" program.
The fact the club decided to break open a squad who had collectively gone through so much upheaval by using such a pseudo psychological approach showed both a complete disregard for the unique set of circumstances the squad faced and a distinct lack of professional knowledge regarding sports psychology by the admin of a well resourced, professional sporting organisation.
It doesn't matter what you think of the camp, the indisputable truth is the above facts heavily contributed to blowing up a squad that had recently reached a grand final. The chasm formed between the squad and the coaches/football department as a result of this ineptitude leaves us where we are now, needing a culture leader to try and rebuild our identity. And ********s like Roo making stupid comments about past players merely underlines the fact that the cancer has not yet been cut out.
1. The camp was organised, unauthorised, by Burton who, aside from being an idiot, was not at the club during the Walsh tragedy and therefore had no feel for the players. He took a squad that was bound by tragedy and broke them apart.
2. The camp was run by a Company formed by an ex muso notorious for trying to find "the next money making scheme" with a program that leant heavily on a discredited and heavily criticised "mind training" program.
The fact the club decided to break open a squad who had collectively gone through so much upheaval by using such a pseudo psychological approach showed both a complete disregard for the unique set of circumstances the squad faced and a distinct lack of professional knowledge regarding sports psychology by the admin of a well resourced, professional sporting organisation.
It doesn't matter what you think of the camp, the indisputable truth is the above facts heavily contributed to blowing up a squad that had recently reached a grand final. The chasm formed between the squad and the coaches/football department as a result of this ineptitude leaves us where we are now, needing a culture leader to try and rebuild our identity. And ********s like Roo making stupid comments about past players merely underlines the fact that the cancer has not yet been cut out.
Wasn't it more or less proven that any benefit gained was pretty much gone by the time the season kicked off. And do you actually get more fit training in Dubai's oppressive heat at all? You need more hydration, but are the lungs actually working any harder? I always thought they just binned it as they realised it was a waste of money.
Betts and Gov would spill as well I reckon. Not with the same harmful intent, but they wouldn't bother protecting the club. Sauce or JJ probably called the 'journo' to get the story up and going again. Still, I don't mind the 3 amigos getting a gentle kick in the nuts periodically by being reminded of their involvement in player blaming and complete ruination of a playing list. ****wits all 3.
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Thought that whenever this story was written that it would be worse.
Pyke read the room. He was gone anyway, probably as toxic as Burton.
Wouldn't have thought you'd need to say it again. Was crystal clear the first post.
Makes you wonder why the club rolled down the deny and deflect path that they did. Should have just released their own or the AFL report and it would have been done there and then. Nobody to blame but those inside the fabled 4 walls.
Exactly, after the McGovern comments by Roo McClure was obviously asked by Colin Young what he had saved on his laptop and this was it, article even states he tried to ring other players and officials (probably over the last 2 weeks) for new quotes including Hampton, Pyke, Burton, Campo & Woulfe ect. and all refused to comment.
His only sources he has are the same ones he’s had previously which are longtime leaker Colin Young passing on secondhand information from McGovern and Josh Jenkins sitting on a couch in Geelong badgering Caro & Sam for future media jobs in exchange for info
Agree with this in the main.
Had there been no camp what was the ceiling for the club in 2017? Lever and Cameron already gone. The latter particularly missed. Think Eddie was physically gone as a consistent force after 2017. Jacobs on slide. Tex has never been the same. Smith not there till end of season. McGovern checked out.
Don't think would have been a top 4 side and contender even if things had been done perfectly and hamstring injuries just as big a reason for not making 8 that year.
Of course you're right about the rotten culture though Jacobs and Jenkins only exacerbated this with their selfish attitude last year.
Teetotaller I'm prett sure is Williams. Neither he or Wrinkles can use alcohol as an excuse for their stupidity.
Pyke was a problem, but not anywhere near as big as Burton. And unlike Burton, Pyke has some self awareness of his part and firstly tried to fix things, then realised he wasn't going to be able to do that. So he did the honourable thing and stepped aside.
Gibbs - “I’ve been on a lot worse camps at Carlton”
Baaa Hahahaha.
No wonder Carlton have been garbage.
Maybe those Carlton camps need a highly respected investigative journo like Sam McClure to delve into them.
Baaa Hahahaha.
No wonder Carlton have been garbage.
Maybe those Carlton camps need a highly respected investigative journo like Sam McClure to delve into them.
Getting them back before the Alice Springs game is probably as big a mistake as the camp itself. Certainly a massive betrayal of trust and it sounds like that was entirely on him.
Like Peter said, Roo rattled the cage, so this was always coming. And it is newsworthy in that it's written as a piece of fact rather than reporting on what's been heard 3rd hand via leaks and inuendo. But there's not a lot of new info, but it does confirm some of what was out there anyway. I'm not surprised the usual apologists got their nickers in a bit of a knot. I am surprised it's worthy of top row middle on the age website. And their crow and colours beats our logo hands down and they're not even trying.
The media nuffies commenting with things like "If accurate, this story is one of the most impressive pieces of journalism in recent times." just shows you how poor the landscape currently is.
It's also no surprise McClure keeps rehashing the same story because it's the only "scoop" he's ever had.
It's also no surprise McClure keeps rehashing the same story because it's the only "scoop" he's ever had.
Punchy Bassett
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I'm not defending the club at all here but this is the exact point this has been released now. You know what should be in that spot, De Goey, Collingwood, Sidebottom.
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Oh please. He was light headed and nauseous. One jackass said he should push through it. Others said it wasn't just the effects of hard training, but an actual illness. The doctor was called and they came.
Lynch ended up being ill and not taking part in the worst things.
It still beggars belief the club would risk so much to gain what would only ever have been a couple of percentage points in performance, and that is a best case scenario had the camp been run by professionals.
Instead there was a 50% drop in effort because most of the playing group suddenly didn't give a shit - and the senior players mostly still don't. What a mess.
Instead there was a 50% drop in effort because most of the playing group suddenly didn't give a shit - and the senior players mostly still don't. What a mess.
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I dispute that it's even remotely as serious an issue as you're claiming.
"C'mon Tom, take a drink of water and get back into it. Push through, don't be soft."
Oh, he's actually come with an illness and needs a doctor. Better get the doc to drive up from the hotel and give Lynchy a few days off.
THAT'S your idea of a smoking gun?
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No one was saying that at the time. 2018 was a lot different to 2020.
