yeah, we got boned on that too - I wonder if we can use that in our defence
Justice? what the **** are you smoking?
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Adelaide free to participate in draft..
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I wouldn't worry, the draft for the next few years after that might be quite deep....
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What does this mean for Tippett though?
Is he then going to be afforded the luxury of entering the PSD and avoid de-registration or suspension?
The club/s keen on Tippett will need to be made aware of any sanction that either suspends or banishes him from league footy in 2013 and beyond before they actually decide to take him on.
Is he then going to be afforded the luxury of entering the PSD and avoid de-registration or suspension?
The club/s keen on Tippett will need to be made aware of any sanction that either suspends or banishes him from league footy in 2013 and beyond before they actually decide to take him on.
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I'm more talking about what the AFL are capable of doing in a short period of time if they see fit.
astrovic
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Kinda ironic you say this in light of Old Dark Navy's comment - the presence of lawyers at AFL house has meant that the AFL is more alive to issues of procedural justice than they were 10 years ago. If they hadn't allowed Adelaide to participate in this draft while the charges are pending, the AFL could have expected to be on the receiving end of an injunction quick smart. Sounds to me like the AFL's lawyers have actually been plugging the holes in the swiss cheese of law recently.
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The AFL has written case adjourned on their website. What the likely outcome will be is they will enable him to get to a club of his choice (Sydney or Western Sydney) through the draft, however they may still deregister him for his negligence in not investigating the deal properly. The predicted outcome for most will be half a season, meaning he could come back after the bye and play. They know Adelaide has lost him so it defeats any purpose of them sanctioning Adelaide of manipulating the market to retain Tippet and his service.
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Stalling...and Trigg takes the fall ...The Crows had no idea of the evil that was being preperated in their name and are clearly victims here, the reputation and goodwill generated by this humblest of sporting clubs over the last 20 years ruined by these rouge egomaniacts ...or something like that
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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
A VIC club would've copped it nicely.
Ok maybe not North.
Ok maybe not North.
Oh great, let's drag this out for a few more weeks Melbourne should be hearing about their case sometime after the 2013 draft.
Melbourne should be hearing about their case sometime after the 2013 draft.
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Yep. Pretty much.
Wouldnt you say a far more in depth cheating scheme would require further analysis to determine the extent of the issue, before issuing any penalties?
OMG , get it into your thick head, Carlton did NOT breach the salary cap in 1995. I dare you to find one shred of evidence anywhere to support your statement. Go on i dare you.
I will repeat myself, CARLTON DID NOT BREACH THE SALARY CAP IN 1995.
As for the AFL and this decision, nothing surprises me anymore. They hastily convened a meeting on the Friday night before the Sunday 2002 draft even though Carlton had asked for an adjournment having only had a short time to prepare for the hearing as there had been a change of board.
Hopefully the Crows will finish lower down the ladder next season and the punishment will be more severe.
Geez another Geelong supporter whining about 1995. Carlton have never been found to have cheated the salary cap in 1995.
The eagles got caught cheating in 1997 does that mean you claim the their 92 and 94 flags as well.
Nice stall by the Crows, maybe if they close their eyes real tight, it'll all just go away..............................
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LOL just because they didn't breach the salary cap in 1995 doesn't mean they didn't breach the cap to get players there who played in the 1995 team. Front loading of contracts is well known and used often by clubs in list management. Carlton were over in 1993 in and around the time they got guys like Earl Spalding. Not to mention the fact that they were found to breach the cap in 1993 which first raised suspicions that they were paying improperly. Finally the last sign that something was going wrong was when guys like Fraser Brown decided to plead the 5th and say nothing at the AFL investigation which in the court of opinion was seen as an admission of guilt and further reinforced by comments about it from Silvagni of all people. So just because they weren't found guilty of breaching in 1995 it doesn't mean they didn't do it then. OJ didn't kill his wife according to a criminal court in 1995 but still did it.
Everyone can play at that game.
Geelong were caught cheating the salary cap in 1998 and 1999 so just because they didn't breach the salary cap in 2007 doesn't mean they didn't breach the cap to get players there who played in the 2007 team. Front loading of contracts is well known and used often by clubs in list management. Geelong were over in 1999 in and around the time they got guys like Cameron Mooney. So just because they weren't found guilty of breaching in 2007 it doesn't mean they didn't do it then.
Just loving the fact that the only clubs represented here that are speaking utter shit are Port and Sydney. The PAPs I can understand ... but Sydney must still be reeling.
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Yep. Totally unfair on the Blues at the time. But the AFL need to do this correctly to ensure that the ruling and punishment cannot be appealed on any grounds. Same deal with the Demons. Both will be punished if found guilty. It will just hit them in later drafts.
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Perfectly reasonable, the Crows have not been found guilty of anything, yet, and have asked for an extension to prepare their cases. The AFL can't change the date of the draft anymore than they can punish the Crows before they have had the chance to present their case.
Sooo...if the AFL take away draft picks it will be next years draft if that does indeed happen?
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I'd be disappointed if I was crows fan, since losing draft picks looks inevitable you'd want to lose them in a year where your first pick is in the 20's.
Yes.
