Its actually extremely common. Pretty much every line will will move from open of market to start of game. We just need transparency as the last thing we want is for a result to fall where the movement takes place.
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Its actually extremely common. Pretty much every line will will move from open of market to start of game. We just need transparency as the last thing we want is for a result to fall where the movement takes place.
Woodson
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I don't doubt that Tomatosauceling. But it is minor (.5-2) points if anything.
And we'll make adjustments / notifications accordingly. I was thinking (just putting out there now) that with games starting early morning and not everyone is going to be aware/awake if there is a 'bump' in the line, only fair that we agree to SEAL the line for the advantage of the Temptation punter at 10pm (night before game)?
ie: Given line: Cincinnati -6.5pt favs vs Cleveland (+6.5)
Some who have either team and take the line before 10pm (because it is a separate comp, you can declare your selection prior to kick-off as a safe way to keep that spread but in turn allow others to claim it)
If there is a shift to Cinci -7.5 (meaning Cleveland +7.5)
The Temptation rule will stay true for Cinci -6.5 and allow leeway for those who go with the Browns @ +7.5
So that covers both parties. I'll add an asterisk on this game as a Spreads Variation.
So unless there is a asterisk, the mirrored spread number stays the same. I'll be sure to have GG or JD check that number prior to kick-off. Variations in last hour are hardly noticed- moved drastically ESP MNF.
I think as soon as the initial lines are posted we should just go with them. If there is any movement from betting agencies then it won't affect us. Just keeps it as clear and simple as possible.
Woodson
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Issue with initial lines for Sunday games is that movement is more likely
as you made mention "extremely common" .So to make a decision.. I'm sure we can AGREE to 'SEAL a LINE' say by 9PM AEST? the Sunday night before game? and Thursday 9pm AEST for Thursday Night Football on our Friday?
Do I have a second to the motion?
ac83
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Issue with initial lines for Sunday games is that movement is more likely
So to make a decision.. I'm sure we can AGREE to 'SEAL a LINE' say by 9PM AEST? the Sunday night before game? and Thursday 9pm AEST for Thursday Night Football on our Friday?
Do I have a second to the motion?
I agree with sauceling on this one. The earlier the lines are locked in, the better. If the betting agencies change their lines during the week, we stick with the opening lines. This makes it easier for people to lock in their selections early.
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I'm not doing temptation this year, but for what it's worth I agree that the earlier the lines are locked in, the better.
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I usually do my tips at work, so if they could be locked in around friday lunch time that would be preferable..
Blacky
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They change a lot early on. I would aim to set them on Wed night.
I'd be all for Thursday lock, but others may struggle
I'd be all for Thursday lock, but others may struggle
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gotta agree with Jake/AC.
Does it really matter if the lines move once we have our lines set? We are all still working on the same lines....I think whatever lines are out before the TNF game, should be the final lines for all games that week
Blacky
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Will struggle when there is Friday (thurs night) game
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Wed night lock would be good.
Will thurs night footy be in temptation?
Will thurs night footy be in temptation?
Woodson
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That's why I made that comment with being open to 'spread variation' but at this stage.. we can still discuss it to see what other options we go with. Also worth taking into consideration is what 'TIME' is idea for all to SEAL the LINES.. I've floated a couple timeslots already.. just gives those line shifts time to settle. Also most complete the CR full card by Friday morning (AEST) and may want do the whole AE tipping in the one go but all lines may not be released by then. That's why allowing for common timeslot is what I'm thinking. I'll be happy to get more feedback.
Woodson
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If you want it to be. By our Thursday night (AEST) we'll have the SPREAD numbers up and confirmed. I believe they'll be released as early as MNF kick off on our Tuesday. That's why I'm thinking.. wait Thursday before we can gauge the line.
Woodson
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Unlike the AE comp, where selections can be changed right up to kick-off, I think it's fair to avoid any controversy for the Temptation comp by having a one time SUNDAY NIGHT DEADLINE for Sunday games. If no Temptation selections are made for the TNF/ Sunday games, you got up until Monday 9AM AEST to go 'Double Points' on your only Temptation pick of the week.
Exe Gesis
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just testing some other badge ideas, don't mind me...
Woodson
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testing...
Exe Gesis
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Do you guys like the 'top gun' style over the one i showed yesterday?
And which one of those shown is better?
Just want to make something very unique among the BF badges.
And which one of those shown is better?
Just want to make something very unique among the BF badges.
Woodson
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On the badges, I'm thinking this...
For all winners of supplementary comps (dropzone, high roller, last chance, temptation, 123hut, lines)
For all winners of main comps (confidence, 3ko, next duel)
This way, it's a bit easier for admin, more bulk/generic.
testing...
I give the Purple Crown logo my #1 vote followed by Green Star as #2 choice but the Top Gun logo with detail is just as neat. Good work for creativity.
Exe Gesis
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Gold versions (champs of cr, nd, 3ko)....
Silver versions (champs of supp comps)....
Silver versions (champs of supp comps)....
Dirty Bird
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HATE that silver one, don't want to see it next to my name for 2010 sup comp of spreads/line
HOWEVER, I LOVE the Gold one and I'd love to have it for 2010 ND.
Hmm, It's silver/gold or purple/green.
I'd say Purple > Gold > Silver > Green
Perhaps just play with the green a little and have that as the sup comp?
Would make it almost perfect to join the Purple
HOWEVER, I LOVE the Gold one and I'd love to have it for 2010 ND.
Hmm, It's silver/gold or purple/green.
I'd say Purple > Gold > Silver > Green
Perhaps just play with the green a little and have that as the sup comp?
Would make it almost perfect to join the Purple
Blacky
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I kinda think we should increase the maximum games won in temptation for the poorer teams we need to pick. If we increase it to 7 we will have more variety. As it stands everyone will have the same teams
Blacky
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Or maybe one less than six and one less than 8
Exe Gesis
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I've PM'd Chief with the original badges, not the top gun ones, so sometime soon-ish hopefully will have those displaying.
