Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 11 - Walyalup (Freo) v Pies Fri May 24th 6:10pm WST/8:10pm AEST (OS)

[cactuscall]

You threw everything (including the umpires) at an undermanned Collingwood side who didn't get out of first gear and you still couldn't get it done.

It's as good as a loss for the Dockers.

To be fair its a touch better than a loss. Just a touch.

 

[Randomizor]

Who mentioned finals? You should've gone to bed hours ago

You’re the one talking about grand finals. Think you need some rest sir

 

[Corn Cobbers]

That Sullivan free against is the most ridiculous piece of s**t umpiring I’ve ever seen in 45 years of watching this game.

what an imbecile

The ump did warn them about a minute before

Something like "give the ball straight back to me or I'll pay a free", then he held his word

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[The Blueseum]

I always say you've got to hand it to the umpires.

 

[Hoops]

Bobby Hill gets his back caved in. Play on.

Dragged it in

 

[smasha]

I don't want to buy in too much to the Collingwood victim narrative that they constantly have, but Matt Nicholls is not fit to be an AFL umpire.

Top of the free differential when you combine their frees the last seven years.
Now the Muppets in the media making out they have more injuries than Richmond,oh my.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Carlton might want to try getting into the 8 before talking about finals?

They know we’re coming….

 

[hoss]

Freo players seem extremely happy with a draw.

Pathetic bunch of marshmallow metrosexuals.

Don't be such a dope .... oops no pun intended.

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[fnerd]

You threw everything (including the umpires) at an undermanned Collingwood side who didn't get out of first gear and you still couldn't get it done.

It's as good as a loss for the Dockers.

Forever ,Rent free

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Second time in the last three games where a side has played to ice it and in the process blew the door open for their opponent to snatch it.

Hard to criticise a side that have done it superbly so often but that was one we blew.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

You're like flies on a dog turd when it comes to Freo threads aren't you?

Freo are my second team. I am harsh but fair on them because I want to see them finally succeed.

Tonight they should've found a win.

 

[mick500]

Contender for worst graphic ever used

I liked it. Saved it to my phone for later use

 

[Dockernut]

You threw everything (including the umpires) at an undermanned Collingwood side who didn't get out of first gear and you still couldn't get it done.

It's as good as a loss for the Dockers.

Your bitterness is like sweet nectar to me. Glad we get to live rent free in a housing crisis lol.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Let me guess...

Umpires?

Quaynor touch not called.

Free kick in front of goal against Sullivan for something that never gets paid.

Bogus free kick to Switskowski that led to the point that leveled the scores.

Yes, umpires.

 

[Elixuh]

He did kick a point….

You are struggling here

You gotta take the little wins hey. A point this week. Maybe a goal sometime in the near future!

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

What's the official rule on handing it back to the umpire?

From the 2024 Laws of the Game.

There is no specific rule that you must hand is back to the umpire.

There are two rules that could potentially apply to award a free kick in this situation.

24.6 - Which is failure to obey the directions of an umpire.

OR

18.13 (d) Time wasting.

Did the umpire demand the ball back to him first? Can it be time wasting if the clock has been stopped.

I would say the most informative thing in the rules is right here:

18. FREE KICKS
18.1 INTRODUCTION
18.1.1 Spirit and Intention of Awarding Free Kicks
It is the spirit and intention of these Laws that a Free Kick shall be awarded toa) ensure that a Match is played in a fair manner and spirit of true sportsmanship;

So weve got an umpire that has umpired our game for 20years and thinks its in the spirt and intent of the law to pay a free kick 15m in front of goal because a player handed the ball back via his teammate? Our game is ****ed.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Pies played far better than I expected with the outs, to be in the box seat and in the end, probably should have won, I'll take it as a win.

10 minutes to go everyone here was saying it was over, it was pretty obvious Freo were going to finish with more run given Pies 6 players including 2 debutants.

Silly gift goal by Sullivan, but that's footy, s**t umpiring all night but that's footy.

Good game in the end I guess, we'll take the 2 points.

You're not English by any chance?

 

[YeoShuey]

2 seconds on the clock. Should have been HTB but of course Nicholls was in the area to protect them. Shit umpire.

 

[raffrox]

Freo are my second team. I am harsh but fair on them because I want to see them finally succeed.

Tonight they should've found a win.

Nah I don't believe that. Not with all the cheapshots you throw.

 

[WindyHillZephyr]

Interesting situation. The rule is clear: 18.13 (b). But the vibe is not , I wish that umpire was there when Ramped climbed the goal post. The AFL needs to make a definitive statement on how they want the game officiated

 

[PenfoldsFan]

You threw everything (including the umpires) at an undermanned Collingwood side who didn't get out of first gear and you still couldn't get it done.

It's as good as a loss for the Dockers.

Threw everything...Freo were shit all night, Pies choked.

The draw favoured Freo

 

[CakeEater]

Maybe I just missed it, but I had a look at the laws of the game and couldn't find anything about handing the ball directly to the umpire for a ball-up.

Theres technically a free kick in the laws where a player interferes with the duties of the ump its a free kick.

Very very technical free kick and as i said it was a look at moi moment.

 

[hawkman]

I’ve never seen nor heard of it

It was paid against Libba against us a month ago. It probably happens once a month it just isn't normally high profile like this one

 

[doppleganger]

18.13 (b)


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Surely that can't be the "rule" they are claiming he enforced.

The intent of that rule is surely about in play situations and handing the ball to a player.

What a farce!

 

[Lunchtime]

That umpires decision in the final few minutes didn't help Collingwood and we don't want free kicks like that paid......but the Pies shot themselves in the foot with their kicking.....10.15 doesn't help. It was their game to win and they couldn't put the Dockers away.

But yeah "THAT" free kick.....do we REALLY want free kicks of that nature paid? Absolutely not. Some commonsense needed by umpire Matty Nicholls in that situation there. Yes it is in the rule book so in terms of "black and white" it's there to be paid but umpires generally don't pay it.

One thing about cricket - the Laws of Cricket which I really admire is this: there are 42 Laws in cricket, and there is Law 43....the unwritten Law......the Law of Commonsense. Its not to be used all the time but when needed cricket umpires at all levels use it and it greatly helps the game.

Different game I know to AFL but in general terms some commonsense was definitely needed in that scenario. The whole complexion of the game changed, Freo got the momentum back.