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I meant 17Might be a bit tough without a time machine.
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I meant 17Might be a bit tough without a time machine.
Brilliant in-depth write up, great postLiked: Trying to cast my mind back to how I was feeling in the early season winning run and although in reality, those early season wins against the Bulldogs, Carlton and Brisbane were probably on par, it's been a long time since a win has got me as excited as Saturday. A massive chance for top two and should make top four at least from here. Even if we slip up in one of the remaining two games, I'd still say we'd be probably 50/50 to cling on to fourth.
Learnt: A wild weekend but ultimately it's resulted in the top 4 and top 8 taking shape and with the likely cut-offs (IMO) being 60 points for top four (you could argue 62) and 54 for top eight, that makes it look like a race between five teams to fill out the top four and only 9th and 10th having some chance of sneaking into the eight (though no form whatsoever to speak of).
It makes me wonder if we'll soon forget what a crazy season 2024 has been if it ultimately reverts to the traditional pattern in finals of the top four teams dominating and the recent trend of the minor premier going on to win the grand final.
It's probably a thread of its own heading into September, but the almost certain minor premier has been belted by 100+ in August as part of a 1-5 run from late June and has also lost to the wooden spooner. A likely top four side (Port) was smashed by 80 points at home as part of an 0-3 run and it seems that 90% of the supporter base want their coach to be sacked. The other top four contenders: went 3-6-1 prior to the bye (Brisbane), had a 2-6 run over two months (GWS), or had a 1-6 run with two 10+ goal beltings (Geelong). But all, besides Sydney are currently in very hot form and at this stage, it looks as though the old cliche of hitting your straps in August and September will prove especially true this year.
Which brings me to Hawthorn. It may be through clenched teeth and yesterday probably had more than a bit to do with bad luck and selection backfires on Carlton's part, but you have to give credit to Hawthorn, not just for how they've played over the past three months, but for how they've responded to every loss. Heartbreakers where they've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against Port and GWS and a reality check butt-kicking by Geelong would have been logical points for a team of Hawthorn's profile to go back in their shells and start losing again. Instead they've come back the following week and beaten Brisbane, Fremantle and Carlton. I've always hoped that the 'premierships every decade since the 60s' circle jerk would be emphatically ended by them not winning a final at all in the 20s, but that's looking like a bit of a forlorn hope at this stage.
Hated: thinking back to what happened to Geelong in round 23, 2023. Same opposition, same venue. People may not remember, but we were still fancied to sneak into the finals at this point. And St Kilda had a training drill against us. This is our first game at Marvel this year against a team who's played there 11 times. This has danger game written all over it. There will probably be about 16 players in our team next week who played in the 2023 match. Hope they have long memories.
Huge call that one but I think you mean 17. You think this team may have 4 GF's in them?Learned : Hawthorn will be first to 16 Premierships
Huge call that one but I think you mean 17. You think this team may have 4 GF's in them?W
Well the nearest rivals areHuge call that one but I think you mean 17. You think this team may have 4 GF's in them?
I see what you mean but long long way to go. Hope to see it in my lifetime. But that would be something wouldn’t it? Another team to finally be able to have bragging rights over these 3 for the last 130+ years. Carlton and Essendon have been sitting on top too long.Well the nearest rivals are
Collingwood - wins one flag every 20 years or so.
Carlton - continue to disappoint
Essendon - can’t win Finals
Melbourne - 2021 was a space oddity
Richmond - Phoenix, sets itself on fire only to emerge around 30 years for next dynasty
So Geelong will probably even reach 17 before any of these….
I'm not one to have any faith in the current Eagles team, but looking forward to the Saints game is probably a bit premature on your behalf at this stage. May well be a dead rubber for the Blues given your injury list and having to travel to Perth on a 6 day break. Tempered by the fact we are 16th and routinely shit the bed after starting to look OK.Liked: Trying to cast my mind back to how I was feeling in the early season winning run and although in reality, those early season wins against the Bulldogs, Carlton and Brisbane were probably on par, it's been a long time since a win has got me as excited as Saturday. A massive chance for top two and should make top four at least from here. Even if we slip up in one of the remaining two games, I'd still say we'd be probably 50/50 to cling on to fourth.
Learnt: A wild weekend but ultimately it's resulted in the top 4 and top 8 taking shape and with the likely cut-offs (IMO) being 60 points for top four (you could argue 62) and 54 for top eight, that makes it look like a race between five teams to fill out the top four and only 9th and 10th having some chance of sneaking into the eight (though no form whatsoever to speak of).
It makes me wonder if we'll soon forget what a crazy season 2024 has been if it ultimately reverts to the traditional pattern in finals of the top four teams dominating and the recent trend of the minor premier going on to win the grand final.
It's probably a thread of its own heading into September, but the almost certain minor premier has been belted by 100+ in August as part of a 1-5 run from late June and has also lost to the wooden spooner. A likely top four side (Port) was smashed by 80 points at home as part of an 0-3 run and it seems that 90% of the supporter base want their coach to be sacked. The other top four contenders: went 3-6-1 prior to the bye (Brisbane), had a 2-6 run over two months (GWS), or had a 1-6 run with two 10+ goal beltings (Geelong). But all, besides Sydney are currently in very hot form and at this stage, it looks as though the old cliche of hitting your straps in August and September will prove especially true this year.
Which brings me to Hawthorn. It may be through clenched teeth and yesterday probably had more than a bit to do with bad luck and selection backfires on Carlton's part, but you have to give credit to Hawthorn, not just for how they've played over the past three months, but for how they've responded to every loss. Heartbreakers where they've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory against Port and GWS and a reality check butt-kicking by Geelong would have been logical points for a team of Hawthorn's profile to go back in their shells and start losing again. Instead they've come back the following week and beaten Brisbane, Fremantle and Carlton. I've always hoped that the 'premierships every decade since the 60s' circle jerk would be emphatically ended by them not winning a final at all in the 20s, but that's looking like a bit of a forlorn hope at this stage.
Hated: thinking back to what happened to Geelong in round 23, 2023. Same opposition, same venue. People may not remember, but we were still fancied to sneak into the finals at this point. And St Kilda had a training drill against us. This is our first game at Marvel this year against a team who's played there 11 times. This has danger game written all over it. There will probably be about 16 players in our team next week who played in the 2023 match. Hope they have long memories.
I'm not one to have any faith in the current Eagles team, but looking forward to the Saints game is probably a bit premature on your behalf at this stage. May well be a dead rubber for the Blues given your injury list and having to travel to Perth on a 6 day break. Tempered by the fact we are 16th and routinely shit the bed after starting to look OK.
Haha, somehow I saw your team as Carlton. Carry on then.We (Geelong) have St Kilda this Saturday.![]()
I think only Essendon, Fitzroy, Collingwood and Carlton have been the leaders in Premierships won tally.I see what you mean but long long way to go. Hope to see it in my lifetime. But that would be something wouldn’t it? Another team to finally be able to have bragging rights over these 3 for the last 130+ years. Carlton and Essendon have been sitting on top too long.
If we are counting state based league flags then I think Port Adelaide have them all covered.I think only Essendon, Fitzroy, Collingwood and Carlton have been the leaders in Premierships won tally.
Insert - VFL and AFL is the same etc etc but the league is totally fair and interstate teams actually have it easy because home ground advantage etc etc, Carlton/Essendon/collingwoods pleb flag from the world war eras is just as legit and respectable as this years etc etc. I’m sure I missed plenty more bs vic rhetoric.If we are counting state based league flags then I think Port Adelaide have them all covered.
If we are counting state based league flags then I think Port Adelaide have them all covered.
You left out the part where 'they knew they were joining the VFL when they did it', 'the VFL was the strongest competition in the country', academies/cola/retention allowance/mergers/AFL Biased on their behalf/pilliaging good Victorian players and tearing them away from their loved ones etc etcInsert - VFL and AFL is the same etc etc but the league is totally fair and interstate teams actually have it easy because home ground advantage etc etc, Carlton/Essendon/collingwoods pleb flag from the world war eras is just as legit and respectable as this years etc etc. I’m sure I missed plenty more bs vic rhetoric.
I’m counting the League AFL which started in 1897. With a name change in 1990.If we are counting state based league flags then I think Port Adelaide have them all covered.
Nope, it was the VFL. It was named that as it was only made up of teams from Victoria.I’m counting the League AFL which started in 1897. With a name change in 1990.
Just like WAFL with it’s countless name changes.
Didn’t know that West Coast Eagles and Brisbane Bears originated from Victoria and only moved from there in 1990.Nope, it was the VFL. It was named that as it was only made up of teams from Victoria.
It only became the AFL a couple of years after it became a national competition, not a state competition.
Although it could be argued it is still a state competition that has been greatly broadened and improved with the introduction of "interstate teams". It certainly seems that most in Victoria still see it as a Victorian comp including most of the AFL hierarchy and media- hence the regular use of the term interstate for non-Vic teams.
Anyway, I digress. It was a great weekend of footy, with another interesting one coming up.
Mate you are claiming flags from when the only teams that played in the comp were all from Victoria. It was a state comp up until about 1986 irrespective of when they changed the acronym. That is a fact that cant be disputed.Didn’t know that West Coast Eagles and Brisbane Bears originated from Victoria and only moved from there in 1990.
As well as Sydney Swans changing their name five years too early….
Thanks for the enlightenment
But seriously you need to look at the official AFL stats, it’s an argument you can’t win so need to discuss.
But it’s the same League. So yes all stats from 1897 stands. You may not like it, but that what it is… official! Can’t be disputed till AFL change it. Some don’t like that the world is round or Pluto is not a planet.Mate you are claiming flags from when the only teams that played in the comp were all from Victoria. It was a state comp up until about 1986 irrespective of when they changed the acronym. That is a fact that cant be disputed.