Multiplat AFL 23 - Part 2 with added Pro Team

[Kidneykid95]

Seems like patch notes are out already .. not sure how to feel about it.. thoughts??

ITS GONE LIVE ALSO! Just got it on PS5 = 1.7GB

 

[new0066]

Assuming this is going to be a yearly release, why would Xbox owners buy AFL23 when AFL24 comes out in April the next year? (or vice-versa, perhaps)

I can see it be 2 years? AFL 25 with a 2024 update or something.

 

[MitchM]

Assuming this is going to be a yearly release, why would Xbox owners buy AFL23 when AFL24 comes out in April the next year? (or vice-versa, perhaps)

Some xbox users have been losing their mind over a month and a half long wait so cant imagine them wanting to wait another 9 months for a footy game

 

[carn tigez]

Unless management mode is actually fixed and effort is put into it, game will be dead before the xbox release.

I feel like people just say this because they want to put pressure on management mode getting better asap.

As long as it does improve, it doesn't really matter when. Obviously I want it now, but if it took 12 months I'd just start playing it 12 months from now. As has happened with a number of games like No Man's Sky, Bannerlord and many early access games. It's the IF, not the WHEN.

Adding the WHEN comes more from desperation than any valid threat that people will refuse to play the game if the same mode is released 3 months later. Don't get me wrong, I share that desperation, but am aware that I'll play it whenever it gets good.

 

[stkilda7894]

I feel like people just say this because they want to put pressure on management mode getting better asap.

As long as it does improve, it doesn't really matter when. Obviously I want it now, but if it took 12 months I'd just start playing it 12 months from now. As has happened with a number of games like No Man's Sky, Bannerlord and many early access games. It's the IF, not the WHEN.

Adding the WHEN comes more from desperation than any valid threat that people will refuse to play the game if the same mode is released 3 months later. Don't get me wrong, I share that desperation, but am aware that I'll play it whenever it gets good.

Fair enough. I just think a lot of damage has been done already. I reckon most people aren't going to hang around long term if their main cover feature of management mode isn't even looked after 2 months after release.

 

[carn tigez]

Fair enough. I just think a lot of damage has been done already. I reckon most people aren't going to hang around long term if their main cover feature of management mode isn't even looked after 2 months after release.

Agree it hurts momentum and you probably need to exceed expectations rather than meet them to rebuild that momentum, but people just want a good game at the end of the day. 99.9% of people are in that camp, and if word started spreading the game was good people would start playing it.

Might be 0.1% who refuse out of principle, but I think even a decent chunk of them might play it on the sly

 

[illnino]

Pro Team will drop the same day as the XBox release I think. They simply won't release it until all platforms are up and running on the same patch. August gives them plenty of time to patch the remaining problems. Just hope it's not too late....

 

[ItsJonesy777]

Proteam will be a good addition but I am one person who has never played the equivalent on FIFA etc. so may not even use it on AFL 23 and it was never going to be an attraction for me to play the game. I like managing a team, drafting, trading, training etc. That's what would keep me and some others interested in playing.

It’s going to be different strokes for different folks is the problem. I for example don’t play offline or single player modes, they bore the absolute crap out of me but I completely understand others are the opposite.

So we need:

• General gameplay massively improved i.e bugs, glitches, exploits etc.
• Online needs a huge amount of work.
• Management mode needs depth added.

Now with Xbox to come, resources being shifted to that other game that’s due out and all the above needing work how do they please everyone and prioritise?

I don’t envy them but at the same time I don’t have empathy either (does not apply to all BA staff) because it’s their own doing that has got us to this point.

 

[FearTheBeard13]

May as well reprint the discs
Would be a fair few gbs in patches to download by now!!

Uhh………..thats not how it works

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It’s going to be different strokes for different folks is the problem. I for example don’t play offline or single player modes, they bore the absolute crap out of me but I completely understand others are the opposite.

So we need:

• General gameplay massively improved i.e bugs, glitches, exploits etc.
• Online needs a huge about of work.
• Management mode needs depth added.

Now with Xbox to come, resources being shifted to that other game that’s due out and all the above needing work how do they please everyone and prioritise?

I don’t envy them but at the same time I don’t have empathy either (does not apply to all BA staff) because it’s their own doing that has got us to this point.

Pretty well hit the nail on the head here.
You’ll never please absolutely everyone, but get those 3 dot points right and you’ll go close.

 

[kingcobey78]

Fair enough. I just think a lot of damage has been done already. I reckon most people aren't going to hang around long term if their main cover feature of management mode isn't even looked after 2 months after release.

Damage was done when it was announced that single player career wasn't going to be included to focus on Proteam which wasn't even in the release or hasn't been added as of yet.

Single player career and coaching career was huge on EVO 2 and was the main attraction in Cricket 23.

 

[Crow_Sting]

Do we really need the constant hallway monitoring of people’s comments on an online footy forum?

I didn’t realise that we were in parliament

If someone was to review your work and basically say “it’s shit and you’re shit” and leave no list of things to improve, you’d say it was a pointless review.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Was the switch to bring Pro Team into the game a late decision?
Was single player career mode ever in and then pulled out or did it just not ever exist?

If it existed and a switch was made, that feels to me like a decision that could have backfired. I think Pro Team in that situation could’ve waited a year or two for the next iteration.

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

I wonder if there will be any difference in game version between xbox physical & what PS physical launched with


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[Treehill23]

It’s going to be different strokes for different folks is the problem. I for example don’t play offline or single player modes, they bore the absolute crap out of me but I completely understand others are the opposite.

So we need:

• General gameplay massively improved i.e bugs, glitches, exploits etc.
• Online needs a huge about of work.
• Management mode needs depth added.

Now with Xbox to come, resources being shifted to that other game that’s due out and all the above needing work how do they please everyone and prioritise?

I don’t envy them but at the same time I don’t have empathy either (does not apply to all BA staff) because it’s their own doing that has got us to this point.

Yeah this
I want to be able to enjoy management mode in a casual manner but also want to play ProTeam online when I’m feeling a bit more competitive as I love MyTeam on 2K and UT on FIFA

Can’t do either atm and I’m quickly getting over the ‘play now’ mode

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I wonder if there will be any difference in game version between xbox physical & what PS physical launched with


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My VERY uneducated guess would be it’s the same and they’ll just have a gigantic patch to download. Now I’ve said that watch it be the complete opposite

 

[ItsJonesy777]

Was single player career mode ever in and then pulled out or did it just not ever exist?

It was mentioned in an interview with Twistie that solo career was in IIRC. The announcement of it being removed in favour of Legends again, came at the 11th hour.

So many weird things that have really not been explained at all to keep us scratching our heads.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It was mentioned in an interview with Twistie that solo career was in IIRC. The announcement of it being removed in favour of Legends again, came at the 11th hour.

So many weird things that have really not been explained at all to keep us scratching our heads.

As keen as I am for Pro Team that seems an odd decision.
If solo career was in, why take it out?
I’m not familiar with game development whatsoever but could it have existed with Pro Team coming? Was it absolutely necessary to drop it for Pro Team?
And if it was already in why couldn’t they hold off Pro Team til next time?
I’ve been full of support for BA but this decision baffles me.

 

[tastiger]

The natives are getting restless Ross... Please release a big chunky patch to polish the gameplay and management mode.

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[Dr Jan Itor]

The natives are getting restless Ross... Please release a big chunky patch to polish the gameplay and management mode.

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Legitimately like a crying baby until the dummy is handed over in here sometimes with waiting for patches (and this absolutely includes me waiting for patches before anyone comes at me for attacking others )
A little patch and we’re all soothed for a few hours before something else makes us throw the toys out of the cot

 

[Treehill23]

As keen as I am for Pro Team that seems an odd decision.
If solo career was in, why take it out?
I’m not familiar with game development whatsoever but could it have existed with Pro Team coming? Was it absolutely necessary to drop it for Pro Team?
And if it was already in why couldn’t they hold off Pro Team til next time?
I’ve been full of support for BA but this decision baffles me.

I’d assume that it was very barebones at the time (like most of the game) so they could afford to ditch it in favour of working on ProTeam
Keeping both would have meant they have to fully flesh out both modes and they were probably aware that they weren’t capable of managing an extra game mode on top of what they are already doing
Again, just an assumption.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I’d assume that it was very barebones at the time (like most of the game) so they could afford to ditch it in favour of working on ProTeam
Keeping both would have meant they have to fully flesh out both modes and they were probably aware that they weren’t capable of managing an extra game mode on top of what they are already doing
Again, just an assumption.

Makes sense actually! Management and online would need even longer to fix if PT and solo were also in and needing patching.

 

[ItsJonesy777]

As keen as I am for Pro Team that seems an odd decision.
If solo career was in, why take it out?

I believe the wording was something along the lines of “we’ve managed to obtain more Legends than previously thought so resources will be diverted to that mode from solo career”.

Happy to be corrected if I’m off the mark. It does seem strange though that if it was already a mode (a few weeks before release) why just scrap it entirely in favour of a mode that was never coming at launch.

Just one of many unanswered questions at this point.

 

[hooked on fishing]

Hardest is actually simple to play if you have the reflexes and patience to deal with the buggy AI.

I don’t think I’m the shittest player of the game, I also don’t think I’m amazing at it, I’ve played enough games now I know how I need to play to counter the bugs etc..

I just cannot believe you your on hardest. The AI is pretty challenging even on hard . I play 5 minute quarters and go back and forth between hard and medium. Playing on medium a rough number of points at the end of a game is probably around the 80-90 mark and the AIs score I can usually keep down at around 50-60.

On hard however the points I kick are probably around 50-60 and the AI most of the time are kicking around the 75-85 mark, sometimes more if they get on a good roll. Just by the games iv played I just can’t picture playing on hardest and getting that high a score

 

[Magpiesfooty98]

Port are finished all i need is the logo

 

[tastiger]

Legitimately like a crying baby until the dummy is handed over in here sometimes with waiting for patches (and this absolutely includes me waiting for patches before anyone comes at me for attacking others )
A little patch and we’re all soothed for a few hours before something else makes us throw the toys out of the cot

True, unfortunately I'm only playing a game here and there when a patch drops... I'm still waiting for the game to be engaging.

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