Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2024 - Check out our haul

[Nuggs Bunny]

All over for this year!

Check out our new picks from the draft:
Pick #13 (matched): Isaac Kako - Small Forward, Calder Cannons
Pick #37: Kayle Gerreyn - Ruck/Forward, West Perth
Pick #39: Angus Clarke - Defender, Glenelg
Pick #61: Rhys Unwin - Small Forward, Greater Western Victoria
Pick #70: Zak Johnson - Midfielder, Northern Knights
Pick #6 RD: Archer Day-Lewis - Forward, Bendigo Pioneers
Cat B Rookie: Jayden Nguyen - Defender, Calder Cannons

 

[TheGrizz]

If we want to trade back into the first round it will be draft night. We can trade in before a Kako bid if he slides or after we match.

A club like Richmond may be willing to trade one of their mid round firsts (11 if they get it for Bolton, 14 that they have now which will both slide out with Ashcroft/Lombard/Kako bids) for a F1 so they don't have 8 picks in one draft and try to spread it out over multiple drafts.

 

[Keystone agony]

Yes I did. That is why it is hard to nail down the order. The fact that they are all close. It could even be 1 to 20 that will be hard to judge. I could come up with a top 20 but I would not be putting my name to what positions they will go in and there would be a few that slide out.

Who are the 16 ?

 

[Keystone agony]

There is no point to that.
It just gets swallowed by kako bid.
There are two scenarios which will play out.
My guess is either Richmond or most likely st kilda will bid on kako.
We will match.
We will then use one of our future firsts to try and get back in the draft.
Teams which could take the bait are Richmond at 14 which will be about 17.
Freo who decide to prepare a war chest for Chad Warner or Sydney who have two picks close together and in truth are likely to have multiple picks if the jungle drums about Warner are true.
If we cannot get in the first round we simply match Kano and be in a strong position for 2026 which may include having an early crack at Harley Reid.

Just a point on Matt Rosa.
He is a little wet between the ears and was strong armed a little.
However in all likelihood a bid would have come before our pick and he would have scrambled with less strength in his position as the bid was in.
I urge everyone to watch draft day as it is more accurate than people think.

If people like I will list some prospects likely to be in the 30 to 50 range.
As well as some in the 18 to 28 range where we may sneak back in by giving up a first round pick.

In a perfect world we use pick 9 and then match for kako but the world ain’t perfect.

It will never be perfect if you dont think it can be

 

[Keystone agony]

If we want to trade back into the first round it will be draft night. We can trade in before a Kako bid if he slides or after we match.

A club like Richmond may be willing to trade one of their mid round firsts (11 if they get it for Bolton, 14 that they have now which will both slide out with Ashcroft/Lombard/Kako bids) for a F1 so they don't have 8 picks in one draft and try to spread it out over multiple drafts.

It doesnt sound like thats available unfortunately, would be a fair bit later on or not at all

Rosa didnt sound that interested in moving in

He wants 3 picks in the 30s-40s (I think hes being a tad unrealistic mentioning 30s, but he may be lucky to get 1 just before 40)

 

[ydc55]

It will never be perfect if you dont think it can be

Not sure what the point of your post is.
Pragmatism when you are working in elite sport would be an essential trait.
Nothing is perfect in late November only the last day in September.

 

[Rick Ross]

We should have kept pick 9 and found the points for Kako elsewhere.
It's touted as possibly the best draft since 2001 and we gave away pick 9.

There's a very good chance 1 - Kako slips past pick 9, or 2 - we would have got either as much or more on draft night live trading that pick with another club.

There would have been several clubs trying to get it. I'm sure we could have had one or two deals ready in waiting.
Bring back Dodoro.

Well played Foxx , by leaving “Bring back Dodoro” to the end, I read all your post before gathering you are drunk.

 

[Westlo]

I think it’s a disaster if we trade back into the first round with either ours or Melbournes first next year, both could be bottom 5 picks. Would have to be for some one that is sliding and you internally rate top ten or higher. Maybe if hotton or Lindsay slide heaps?

Hopefully we can move 28 and 31 for 2nd rounders next year and swoop back in on a good one or two slider during the second round.

 

[Keystone agony]

Well played Foxx , by leaving “Bring back Dodoro” to the end, I read all your post before gathering you are drunk.

TBF hes right

We wouldve at an absolute minimum been able to match points on Kako and got a future 1st

For me thats worth a look on draft night for the small minor loss (if there even is one)

 

[rusman]

As brissys bid will come before ours. Doesn’t that mean all our late picks will actually gain more points value they have now (assuming 2-4 picks are used).

Is kako or gc kid likely to get bid on first?

 

[Keystone agony]

As brissys bid will come before ours. Doesn’t that mean all our late picks will actually gain more points value they have now (assuming 2-4 picks are used).

Is kako or gc kid likely to get bid on first?

Not sure

But the 2 lion bids, suns bid and even our bid will mean all our picks move in

We wouldve absolutely bid on Lombard at our 9

 

[Milanista28]

My dream draft is Kako slides far enough that a combo of our 28+31+40+F2nd allows us to move up the board to draft Hotton or Shanahan and keep both of our 2025 1sts.

 

[Donflicted]

if we trade back in are we trading our future first or the dees future first?

 

[eth-dog]

if we trade back in are we trading our future first or the dees future first?

My preference would be to wait for a Kako bid, trade our 28 and 31 to someone with an expected late first (GC with Port) then trade that in.

 

[Donflicted]

My preference would be to wait for a Kako bid, trade our 28 and 31 to someone with an expected late first (GC with Port) then trade that in.

Depends if a club is willing to do it i suppose

I think if that 31 was a little bit lower we would have a good chance for Swans 17 or 16 maybe

 

[eth-dog]

Depends if a club is willing to do it i suppose

I think if that 31 was a little bit lower we would have a good chance for Swans 17 or 16 maybe

Problem is we really need to wait for Kako to trade back in.

 

[Donflicted]

Problem is we really need to wait for Kako to trade back in.

Yeah thats it

At the end of the day we do walk away with a 1st round talent and we managed to turn a pick that was going to be eaten into a selection of multiple picks including another pick in 20s and a future first

Rosa is off to a good start also liking the mentions of Konst and Prior coming in as possible DFAs

 

[Mercurial89]

I'd personally like to stay where we are at as far as trading into the first round.
Our first rounder is Kako this year.

Trying to trade into a draft that is high demand is just sacrificing too much value.
You are buying at a premium, which borrows from future years which delays the influx of talent we need.

Holding off until next year means we get two first rounders, we have a better idea of where the list is at and can formulate the strategy from there with ample capital.
We have a glut of young players who we have no idea are good enough, and a bunch of core pieces who have thus far shown they aren't.
Accumulate the capital this year and if the year goes the way I expect, purge a few for picks, not match FA bids and build from there with a strong draft hand and any players young enough to build with your Martin, Caldwell, Durhams, Caddy and Kakos.

I don't think pushing to get players into this system early is a reason to push for this draft. The list is too unknown.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I'd personally like to stay where we are at as far as trading into the first round.
Our first rounder is Kako this year.

Trying to trade into a draft that is high demand is just sacrificing too much value.
You are buying at a premium, which borrows from future years which delays the influx of talent we need.

Holding off until next year means we get two first rounders, we have a better idea of where the list is at and can formulate the strategy from there with ample capital.
We have a glut of young players who we have no idea are good enough, and a bunch of core pieces who have thus far shown they aren't.
Accumulate the capital this year and if the year goes the way I expect, purge a few for picks, not match FA bids and build from there with a strong draft hand and any players young enough to build with your Martin, Caldwell, Durhams, Caddy and Kakos.

I don't think pushing to get players into this system early is a reason to push for this draft. The list is too unknown.

agreed. It's not like we get nothing this year. We get the best player in the draft of the type we need the most. Along with 2 first round picks next year. Seems pretty good to me honestly.

It seems a bit like people have gotten so entitled about Kako that it just feels like they aren't getting anything this year

 

[bombreys]

I'd personally like to stay where we are at as far as trading into the first round.
Our first rounder is Kako this year.

Trying to trade into a draft that is high demand is just sacrificing too much value.
You are buying at a premium, which borrows from future years which delays the influx of talent we need.

Holding off until next year means we get two first rounders, we have a better idea of where the list is at and can formulate the strategy from there with ample capital.
We have a glut of young players who we have no idea are good enough, and a bunch of core pieces who have thus far shown they aren't.
Accumulate the capital this year and if the year goes the way I expect, purge a few for picks, not match FA bids and build from there with a strong draft hand and any players young enough to build with your Martin, Caldwell, Durhams, Caddy and Kakos.

I don't think pushing to get players into this system early is a reason to push for this draft. The list is too unknown.

Some sound points, but how many more years are we going to need to see 'where the list is at'? Isn't that was 2023 & 2024 were about. There seems to be a constant them of 'let's wait until next year'. At some stage, 'this year' needs to be the year we start taking action. This year's draft, which is from all accounts the deepest and best quality of recent times, seems as reasonable time as any to start planning for the now.

 

[Zach Package]

I reckon the only play we really have on trading in is if Richmond get on the clock at 6 and don't like what they see because someone else has put a spanner in the works, it could conceivably make sense that they want another first round pick next year instead.

Even then we would really have to like someone.

 

[Milanista28]

I reckon the only play we really have on trading in is if Richmond get on the clock at 6 and don't like what they see because someone else has put a spanner in the works, it could conceivably make sense that they want another first round pick next year instead.

Even then we would really have to like someone.

Every chance a team offers a 1st rounder for pick 18, they will move some picks into the future for sure.

 

[ant555]

Tigers have to be a chance to trade out . They will not be wanting to take 8 or so picks . Not so much early but some where the teens if the do not look to trade with North.

 

[Zach Package]

Every chance a team offers a 1st rounder for pick 18, they will move some picks into the future for sure.

I certainly wouldn't but I could see someone doing it.

I wonder if for whatever reason Kako is still on the board at let's say 12 or 13 we might have a dip with pick 28 and a future second round selection. Or if we get another future second rounder out of Stringer, try to buy back in with a suite of 2024 and 2025 picks.

 

[ant555]

Some sound points, but how many more years are we going to need to see 'where the list is at'? Isn't that was 2023 & 2024 were about. There seems to be a constant them of 'let's wait until next year'. At some stage, 'this year' needs to be the year we start taking action. This year's draft, which is from all accounts the deepest and best quality of recent times, seems as reasonable time as any to start planning for the now.

Ideally it would have been but do we have a definitive answer on Cox Reid Perkins Hobbs ?
We will also have a better idea on Tsatas.
Not ideal but it is what it is.

 

[FootyGuru]

It’s too early to say whether we trade back in, it’ll really depend on who is still on the board draft night.

Rosa isn’t afraid to pay extra to get his player.