Recruiting AFL Draft Watch 2024 - Check out our haul

[Nuggs Bunny]

All over for this year!

Check out our new picks from the draft:
Pick #13 (matched): Isaac Kako - Small Forward, Calder Cannons
Pick #37: Kayle Gerreyn - Ruck/Forward, West Perth
Pick #39: Angus Clarke - Defender, Glenelg
Pick #61: Rhys Unwin - Small Forward, Greater Western Victoria
Pick #70: Zak Johnson - Midfielder, Northern Knights
Pick #6 RD: Archer Day-Lewis - Forward, Bendigo Pioneers
Cat B Rookie: Jayden Nguyen - Defender, Calder Cannons

 

[Zach Package]

Please please please accept

Awful deal for us

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Sit tight and get speedy players who can kick...small fwds, small/rebounding defenders and wingers is what we need.

 

[DapperDon]

players who can kick

This, for the love of god this!!

 

[Yoda_]

What is the addiction with Jobe?

Yeah i watched him live he looks good but wouldnt be footing our F1 on the table

Although I may be wrong but I tend to agree a little. In the few VFL games he played, he was a very lead & mark, kick for goal type. Although a very small sample size for a (young KPF), some say he is a strong defensive presence with taking and pressure (although may be mixing up with Armstrong)

There is still PLENTY of KPF's on the table to appease the masses

Shanahan
Whitlock
Sims (my favourite alongside West)
Gerryn
Davis
Nicholls
Burmeister
West (my favourite for us)
McKenzie
Davidson

 

[Pomsta]

A trade would look something like 29 and F3 for 37, 39 & F2

If it was 28 for those 3, as a Richmond fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. Then trade 39 for more futures. However Essendon would be dumb to do this. They are better off giving up either of the F1s next year and getting 3 players this year and trading out one of the picks for an F2. You have too many holes to give up that many quality picks in this draft.

 

[Yoda_]

If it was 28 for those 3, as a Richmond fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. Then trade 39 for more futures. However Essendon would be dumb to do this. They are better off giving up either of the F1s next year and getting 3 players this year and trading out one of the picks for an F2. You have too many holes to give up that many quality picks in this draft.

we dont have the list spots to just go out and "getting the players this year"


Its not that easy

 

[Duckworth]

But that is not really the risk. We traded 9 for what ended up being a F1 two mid second rounds and a third round. If we keep 9 then it is we get that guy and Kako and then start trading out futures to match the bid.

As far as the best drafts go it was not because the top 20 was full of stars that made them. It was a few stars in the top 10 plus some very good on top of that in the top 20 but the kicker was the players that came outside the top 25.

Calling it just a future first is an over simplification. A future first is a pick anywhere from 1 to 27. Yes, we received some second-rounders, but the biggest asset is that first-round pick. There is risk with it, based on how Melbourne are going to perform.

 

[Yoda_]

Calling it just a future first is an over simplification. A future first is a pick anywhere from 1 to 27. Yes, we received some second-rounders, but the biggest asset is that first-round pick. There is risk with it, based on how Melbourne are going to perform.

this was touched on earlier but the deciding factor was the net result if a bid on Kako did come before our first round selection


Kako bid matched + future first (7 - 14) + the later picks to balance out and bring in better current draft picks

or


Kako + draft pick balance if bid was before our first and a net result of end of draft selections

 

[Foxx]

It was no secret we were always going to match but then scared clubs off by bidding earlier was trading out our early pick.


Id be more worried about a premature bid if we retained our first selection. The fact we moved it out enhanced the chances of what happened (a bid came after our first)

I don't think any club would bid on a player with a top 10 pick in this quality draft, unless they were seriously going to take him. And Kako was every chance to be a 10-15 pick pre draft. And I think that was where he was always going to land.
If by chance he was bid on earlier by a willing suiter, then we should have had our points and potential traders ready to roll. And if they fell through, then there would have been other clubs falling over their feet to get our top 10 pick.
All the odds were in Rosa's favour.

 

[Yoda_]

I don't think any club would bid on a player with a top 10 pick unless they were seriously going to take him. And Kako was every chance to be a 10-15 pick pre draft.

to be fair I do tend to agree. Even pre injury, Kako was mentioned as a 12 - 20 mock draft pick. Maybe some politics behind the Sains calling our bluff by tempting an early bid into scaring us enough to move it out but im content with the deal. We not only have a future 1 but we garnered enough selections to match the Kako bid around where he ended up bidding on whilst also gaining the ability o move up the order with potential pick swaps tonight

 

[Foxx]

to be fair I do tend to agree. Even pre injury, Kako was mentioned as a 12 - 20 mock draft pick. Maybe some politics behind the Sains calling our bluff by tempting an early bid into scaring us enough to move it out but im content with the deal. We not only have a future 1 but we garnered enough selections to match the Kako bid around where he ended up bidding on whilst also gaining the ability o move up the order with potential pick swaps tonight

Yeah, it's still a good move. But it had the potential to be a great result.

 

[doug85]

If it was 28 for those 3, as a Richmond fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. Then trade 39 for more futures. However Essendon would be dumb to do this. They are better off giving up either of the F1s next year and getting 3 players this year and trading out one of the picks for an F2. You have too many holes to give up that many quality picks in this draft.

Has this idea been published in the media or is it BF BS?

I haven’t seen it anywhere but BF

 

[Westlo]

saints would've bidded on kako if we had our pick, heck the only reason they probably didn't bid on kako anyway was due to the pick swap we worked together on.

 

[Yoda_]

Yeah, it's still a good move. But it had the potential to be a great result.

Matt Rosa making friends early is very un-Essendon when it comes to this time of the year..

In the future we may have the positive relationships to go "remember that time we helped you out?" may come back to help us down the track..


In the end, we are all burnt by the Adrian Dodoro school of needing to win trade(s). This was a positive result for us. Maybe not the great result everyone wanted but a win:win none the less

 

[faible]

In the end, we are all burnt by the Adrian Dodoro school of needing to win trade(s). This was a positive result for us. Maybe not the great result everyone wanted but a win:win none the less

Plenty of posters seem to have the Dodoro mindset here.

We didn't WIN the trade (because some other club did a stupid trade in the moment) so we lost, despite it being a very positive trade that resulted in improving both our current and future draft hands.

They also fail to understand that the doing of that / those trades, would have impacted when Kako was bid upon.

Saints didn't 'need' to bid on Lombard, but they did. They would have certainly bid on Kako because why not? They know we'd match. Then we'd be trading a pick out under time pressure where any club who's interested would know we have no choice but to offload it. That is absolutely not how you secure the best outcome, nor would it have allowed the other trade moves we made to end up with 4 picks inside 43.

 

[Yoda_]

From the AFL website which gives some actual proper insight into the trade out of our current first

Elsewhere, Essendon got its man, but the Bombers' path to securing Isaac Kako had some critics questioning their strategy.

During last month's Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period, the Bombers traded pick No.9 to Melbourne in the expectation an early bid would come for Kako.

That didn't quite prove to be the case, with the Bombers instead matching Richmond's bid at No.13.

However, opposing clubs would likely have changed their bidding strategy on Kako had the Bombers not done the trade with the Demons, meaning the Dons were in a tough spot.

"Had they have not traded out that pick (pick nine), the likelihood is that a bid for Isaac Kako would have come before pick nine," Beveridge said on Draft Night Live.

 

[Foxx]

From the AFL website which gives some actual proper insight into the trade out of our current first

If so, they would be gambling a top 10 pick on player not rated top 10.

 

[Mootha]

Interested in KPF Kayle Gerreyn. 199cm, strong, agile West Aussie.
Like his hands, moves well for a big boy. Rucks a bit too.

 

[Donflicted]

Although I may be wrong but I tend to agree a little. In the few VFL games he played, he was a very lead & mark, kick for goal type. Although a very small sample size for a (young KPF), some say he is a strong defensive presence with taking and pressure (although may be mixing up with Armstrong)

There is still PLENTY of KPF's on the table to appease the masses

Shanahan
Whitlock
Sims (my favourite alongside West)
Gerryn
Davis
Nicholls
Burmeister
West (my favourite for us)
McKenzie
Davidson

I agree but if we do move up and we dont sell the farm it wont be mad with the result

I just believe its better to bank it and possibly look at other options Sims looks good!

 

[King Patty]

The Bulldogs also have interest in slider duo Christian Moraes and Tom Gross, although the GWS Giants have also been linked to Gross, while Moraes is on the radar of both Port Adelaide and Hawthorn.


Ess: Jobe Shanahan (trade)
Dogs: Tom Gross
West Coast Matt Whitlock
Dogs Christian moraes
Stk Hugh Boxshall
Port Jack Ough
Freo Angus Clarke
Hawks Hamish Davis
GWS Kayle Gerryn
Rich Alex Dodson (trade)

 

[katana]

If so, they would be gambling a top 10 pick on player not rated top 10.

there would be no gamble. we were always taking kako. the whole comp knew it.

 

[Keystone agony]

Pretty good reason not to do it if these two are the examples.

Holmes would be the successful candidate in the 20s

But id say more often than not has not worked

Cant remember what suns gave up for Flanders or if they did.. memory escapes but he was around pick 11 so far earlier

 

[jdstorm]

Sit tight and get speedy players who can kick...small fwds, small/rebounding defenders and wingers is what we need.

Umm do they have to be small. Could they just be regular sized players who are fast and can kick

 

[Keystone agony]

I don't get the negative view of what we've done, even looking at it with the benefit of hindsight.

We got the best player in the draft for a positional need where we're absolutely desperate to upgrade. We could've done nothing at all this year and just drafted Kako at 9. Instead we get a F1 as well.

The trades to net us 3x 2nd round picks to use tonight are gravy and there could yet be more trades in the tank to help us get one of the sliders which still includes Shanahan.

Im not totally against what weve done or not done

But we were always getting Kako regardless, so i dont think that can really be used in the argument. Its not like we wernt getting him

 

[katana]

clayton oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

and josh weddle were teams targetting a player and trading up for them.