AFL players who smoke

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There are risks in everything in life, even staying at home you might slip over and hit your head.

I'd rather enjoy life than stop doing anything unhealthy just in case something may happen.

Providing people keep relatively fit smoking a couple of cigarettes per day shouldn't do much damage.
There sure are risks everywhere, but in most cases people take heed of the warnings.

You could get hit by a car crossing the road, but you sure as hell look each way before you cross it, don't you.

You might slip in the shower, but you also don't put soap suds all over the tiles because you know you could slip and fall.

I mean, look at my earlier example of a guy worried about getting a little wet and catching a cold....yet he has no issue with lighting up a *** every 45 minutes.

Smokers get a delivery of warnings every time they pick up a pack, and just ignore them.

For that reason smoking is truly amazing, as the amount of people who simply disregard the thousands of people that are either sick or dying from it in our society is incredible.
 
There sure are risks everywhere, but in most cases people take heed of the warnings.

You could get hit by a car crossing the road, but you sure as hell look each way before you cross it, don't you.

You might slip in the shower, but you also don't put soap suds all over the tiles because you know you could slip and fall.

I mean, look at my earlier example of a guy worried about getting a little wet and catching a cold....yet he has no issue with lighting up a *** every 45 minutes.

Smokers get a delivery of warnings every time they pick up a pack, and just ignore them.

For that reason smoking is truly amazing, as the amount of people who simply disregard the thousands of people that are either sick or dying from it in our society is incredible.
I knew someone who smoked and used to drink diet coke to be healthy and tell me off for normal coke and chips. Logic doesn't come into it really.

People always think it won't happen to them, its every other person's choices that are bad etc
 

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Smokers get a delivery of warnings every time they pick up a pack, and just ignore them.

For that reason smoking is truly amazing, as the amount of people who simply disregard the thousands of people that are either sick or dying from it in our society is incredible.
You could use that same argument for pretty much everything that's put into mouths these days, mate. There's been warnings for basically everything most humans do on a daily basis, yet people still do it.

Going into the city, let alone working in the city, is truly amazing. The amount of pollution from motor vehicles, work sites etc. is astounding :$
 
You could use that same argument for pretty much everything that's put into mouths these days, mate. There's been warnings for basically everything most humans do on a daily basis, yet people still do it.

Going into the city, let alone working in the city, is truly amazing. The amount of pollution from motor vehicles, work sites etc. is astounding :$
That's not a great comparison....

There's not billboards warning you about pollution every time you jump on the tulla freeway.

Smokers ignore the warnings with every single dart.
 
You have to weigh up the risk vs reward with smoking.

Risk-Heart disease, cancer, emphysema, diabetes, gangrene, bad breath, yellow teeth....

Reward- Looking cool.

This is a tough call for anyone to make.

95%+ of smokers don't smoke to look cool.

Why is it hard to accept that people make the decisions that they do?
 
The bolded is the mantra of the deadshit smoker, too dumb to recognise that death from smoking isn't usually a quick and painless occurrence. It's lots of Doctor costs and visits, it's tests, it's waiting for results, it's telling your family and friends that that "something" is coming a lot quicker than you thought it might, it's sitting in a chair for the remainder of your life chained to an oxygen pump with no energy or breath to even get up and walk to the other end of your house, or perhaps it's numerous amounts of surgery, pain and a final deadline of just how many weeks they've got left.

None of these people, so brazen with their bravado when they tell you "you've got to die of something" have really contemplated death from smoking, or perhaps even experienced it.

Don't get me wrong, they're free to kill themselves slowly if they so wish, being that we could do with a few million less people on the planet(especially the not so bright), but whenever I hear a smoker say "oh well, you've gotta die of something", I can't help but think these are the words of a person either not equipped to understand the possible consequences of their actions, or simply someone who is not very bright at all.

One of my employees said to me last week when it was lightly spitting outside that he couldn't go out for a smoke in the smoke area because he might get sick. I explained to him that if he's so concerned about catching a sniffle, perhaps continuing a habit which has such undeniable links to cancer and death might not be for him.

I watched my grandfather die from severe emphysema in his late 60's. In his last months he wanted to die, he was just so beaten, because he felt like a dog on a chain, unable to talk, unable to even go to the toilet without an oxygen mask and someone to spot him.

I lost my auntie to throat cancer. Smoked like a chimney. Didn't give a ****.
One day she felt the onset of a sore throat, and struggled to swallow. In a matter of weeks she was gone.

**** I hate smoking, but even more I hate the way in which people just pass it off like its a habit without absolutely tragic consequences.

"You've got to die of something", yeah, well that's true and you're free to look forward to it if you like but that's not exactly the aim of this game from where I'm standing.

There is alot of misinformation in there. Lung cancer patients die quickly in the broader picture. The health costs are actually quite low for smoking related cases. Costs are much higher for dementia or altzhimers or a host of ailments that gradually kill non smokers. They require decades of intensive care.

Lung cancer patients get a course of chemo then sent home to die.

Smokers are unfairly demonised by SJW wannabes of the world.
 
There is alot of misinformation in there. Lung cancer patients die quickly in the broader picture. The health costs are actually quite low for smoking related cases. Costs are much higher for dementia or altzhimers or a host of ailments that gradually kill non smokers. They require decades of intensive care.

Lung cancer patients get a course of chemo then sent home to die.

Smokers are unfairly demonised by SJW wannabes of the world.
Demonised? More likely it's just ridicule.

But unnecessary death from a shitty habit should be applauded for its non-conformity, not ridiculed, of course.
 

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The bolded is the mantra of the deadshit smoker, too dumb to recognise that death from smoking isn't usually a quick and painless occurrence. It's lots of Doctor costs and visits, it's tests, it's waiting for results, it's telling your family and friends that that "something" is coming a lot quicker than you thought it might, it's sitting in a chair for the remainder of your life chained to an oxygen pump with no energy or breath to even get up and walk to the other end of your house, or perhaps it's numerous amounts of surgery, pain and a final deadline of just how many weeks they've got left.

None of these people, so brazen with their bravado when they tell you "you've got to die of something" have really contemplated death from smoking, or perhaps even experienced it.

Don't get me wrong, they're free to kill themselves slowly if they so wish, being that we could do with a few million less people on the planet(especially the not so bright), but whenever I hear a smoker say "oh well, you've gotta die of something", I can't help but think these are the words of a person either not equipped to understand the possible consequences of their actions, or simply someone who is not very bright at all.

One of my employees said to me last week when it was lightly spitting outside that he couldn't go out for a smoke in the smoke area because he might get sick. I explained to him that if he's so concerned about catching a sniffle, perhaps continuing a habit which has such undeniable links to cancer and death might not be for him.

I watched my grandfather die from severe emphysema in his late 60's. In his last months he wanted to die, he was just so beaten, because he felt like a dog on a chain, unable to talk, unable to even go to the toilet without an oxygen mask and someone to spot him.

I lost my auntie to throat cancer. Smoked like a chimney. Didn't give a ****.
One day she felt the onset of a sore throat, and struggled to swallow. In a matter of weeks she was gone.

**** I hate smoking, but even more I hate the way in which people just pass it off like its a habit without absolutely tragic consequences.

"You've got to die of something", yeah, well that's true and you're free to look forward to it if you like but that's not exactly the aim of this game from where I'm standing.
Do you tell the fat people a similar thing when they go to each lunch? Explaining the health effects, mortality rate, high cost of public hospital expenses ext with being excessively overweight.


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I reckon a fair number of young players would have the odd cigarette in the off-season along with a beer. Doubt any would be regular day-to-day smokers though.
 
You have to weigh up the risk vs reward with smoking.

Risk-Heart disease, cancer, emphysema, diabetes, gangrene, bad breath, yellow teeth....

Reward- Looking cool.

This is a tough call for anyone to make.
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Looks totally cool. :rolleyes:

We as a society are frowning upon smoking. There are ever expanding 'no smoke' zones and smoking rates are plummeting nation wide.
 
True enough.

Not everyone dies who drives 120km around a bend marked at 60km either.


At 120km you are breaking the law smoking a cig you are not.

Smoking a cig will kill yourself so its your problem, driving at 120km may kill others which is why it is illegal.

Similar with drugs there are affects on third parties so it is illegal.

I dont smoke, but as long as it doesnt have an impact on myself and others I dont care if others smoke their bad choice in life!
 
At 120km you are breaking the law smoking a cig you are not.

Smoking a cig will kill yourself so its your problem, driving at 120km may kill others which is why it is illegal.

Similar with drugs there are affects on third parties so it is illegal.

I dont smoke, but as long as it doesnt have an impact on myself and others I dont care if others smoke their bad choice in life!
There are third party impacts to smoking. Passive smoking for example, I see people smoking around kids and babies all the time.
 
There are third party impacts to smoking. Passive smoking for example, I see people smoking around kids and babies all the time.


There are third party risks with driving a car legally aswell, but the risk is significantly low and acceptable as is third party risks with smoking. My parents smoked and I dont feel any ill effects, may actually be a reason why I dont.
 
There are third party risks with driving a car legally aswell, but the risk is significantly low and acceptable as is third party risks with smoking. My parents smoked and I dont feel any ill effects, may actually be a reason why I dont.
Smoking and drinking and gambling are three things that are only really legal because of revenue raised/special interest groups.

The arguments used against a lot of recreational drugs being illegal apply to those three things, in a lot of cases even more so but we have those three allowed and the rest deemed too bad for us to allow people to make their own choices.
 
Jarryd Roughead has bought several packs of cigs from me over the years. Mostly in the off season but occassionaly during the winter months.

Never personally seen him put a dart to his lips, but I don't think he's handing them out as conversation staters..
 
Smoking and drinking and gambling are three things that are only really legal because of revenue raised/special interest groups.

The arguments used against a lot of recreational drugs being illegal apply to those three things, in a lot of cases even more so but we have those three allowed and the rest deemed too bad for us to allow people to make their own choices.

No they are legal because none are inherently dangerous. It's not that hard to understand.

Heroin, cocaine, ecstasy(how it is currently made) are inherently dangerous to varying degrees.
 
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