AFL Silver Membership Waitlist Number Part 2

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Someone told me today they know someone who called AFL who complained about not getting Gold, and they were told they'll get upgraded next year.

Said they didn't care about an upgrade this year because Pies were out and only wanted it for next year. Not sure if it's true

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Anyone over 5'7 has their knees smashed against those things

Those cup holders are useful as balls on a cow. They make it impossible to move up and down the row when all are seated.

Well as a short arse I personally like them.

Yes and what the outcome of the investigation/report by Cain Liddle that was commissioned by the AFL is.

And whether they will offer upgrades to anyone this year or they are already starting to restrict the number of full members in anticipation of the Southern Stand rebuild. When I asked they were very cagey to say the number of full members is capped at 30k and that hasn't changed. There's obviously a difference between being "capped" and the number of actual members.

From the minutes of the AFL meeting with AFL Members Association in Feb 2024

Current Silver at 22,000 is interesting given I joined post covid restrictions and that was about my waitlist number at the end of last year. I've had a friend join more recently than I did and theirs was mid 20 thousand. Does the waitlist include those left on absentee?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

We should get angry because we pay for the membership and get treated like peasants by the AFL. AFL members should demand accountability from the AFL, if we just let them get away with it they will keep diluting our membership. There are 60k of us, we pay good money for the membership, when you add in the cost of a GF ticket we pay around the same as MCC members yet have far worse facilities and far fewer privileges.

I think this is a bit overly dramatic when the main reason I remain a Silver member is because ultimately I go to enough games of footy where it's incredibly good value for money to go to a live AFL game for something around $15 per ticket when you go to 30+ games. A lot of the other stuff is a bit secondary to me, not unimportant, but not a huge deal.

A priority for me is there should be greater political effort for the AFL to rebuild the stand. Even though the stand is only 10 years older than the Northern stands, it is incredibly dated, and as time and technology marches on, it becomes more and more out of date and, other than the actual watching of the games itself, not a very pleasant experience. The issue is is that it's outdated today. Once they confirm funding and plan the new stand, that's still several years to a decade away, meaning that the stand will be even more outdated then.

If there's one upside to the corporate encroachment is that at one point the AFL simply can't get the value out of it in such an outdated seat, forcing the hand a bit more if it was merely "just" a gold or silver member sitting in those in-demand seats.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Doubt it will get to Silver no club support. I think the last time I can remember that happening was Swans VS Eagles a few years back.

I am silver member 11 yrs now and still waiting. 6223 in the queue

My son is just about to turn 14 and signed up immediately. Still waiting. My next boy is now 11 (immed sign up) and I feel he might be 25+ years to there.

 

[rfc4eva]

Its funny last week i call them and ask whats going on with the upgrades that are normally done in July and got told they are behind it will be done in October.
I call up today and ask the same question and get told they have already been done and when i asked roughly how many he said he didn't know.

Which lie should i believe more

 

[Visions]

Yes and what the outcome of the investigation/report by Cain Liddle that was commissioned by the AFL is.

And whether they will offer upgrades to anyone this year or they are already starting to restrict the number of full members in anticipation of the Southern Stand rebuild. When I asked they were very cagey to say the number of full members is capped at 30k and that hasn't changed. There's obviously a difference between being "capped" and the number of actual members.

From the minutes of the AFL meeting with AFL Members Association in Feb 2024

So with a 97% retention rate, that would mean approximately 900 spots in Gold (though allowing for a little less as retention would be higher in Gold than silver). But did they upgrade anyone at all?

 

[TigerR]

So with a 97% retention rate, that would mean approximately 900 spots in Gold (though allowing for a little less as retention would be higher in Gold than silver). But did they upgrade anyone at all?

No one here (or on the Facebook group) have said they were upgraded mid year, so I would say no. But they also upgrade over summer I believe.

 

[kurt_kb]

That might explain why Level 2A randomly
got new seats recently.

Only thing the Warne Stand has that’s better are the Level 2 cupholders.

They should be getting new seating across levels 1 and 4 soon too. The feasibility study into the stand's replacement has been ongoing for years with no updates, so I don't think anybody is holding their breath on that front.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

So with a 97% retention rate, that would mean approximately 900 spots in Gold (though allowing for a little less as retention would be higher in Gold than silver). But did they upgrade anyone at all?

No upgrades have been offered this year. They say they will be offering upgrades when renewal notices go out but we will wait and see as they would have known since June 1 how many upgrades they could offer (as members have until May 31 to renew).

 

[NetworkNerd]

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They should be getting new seating across levels 1 and 4 soon too. The feasibility study into the stand's replacement has been ongoing for years with no updates, so I don't think anybody is holding their breath on that front.

Still not sold on the whole tear down and rebuild of the southern stand. For what gain? Is it ready worth spending 2-3 billion for no increase in seating

What you have posted seems more realistic. Refresh, replace seating. Maybe widen the walkway at gates 6/7 and extend some dining out onto the walkway.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Still not sold on the whole tear down and rebuild of the southern stand. For what gain? Is it ready worth spending 2-3 billion for no increase in seating

What you have posted seems more realistic. Refresh, replace seating. Maybe widen the walkway at gates 6/7 and extend some dining out onto the walkway.

It needs escalators as a minimum.

 

[Ari]

What’s your waitlist out of curiosity? I’m gold (2009 join) but the wife joined a couple of years after me in 2011 and was 2382 end of 2023..

I signed up 2012.

Waitlist. 5584

 

[Satan]

It needs escalators as a minimum.

yes, had a stroke a few years ago , fortunately im ok and an escalator would be great

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

yes, had a stroke a few years ago , fortunately im ok and an escalator would be great

The Ponsford public section shits on the terrible AFL members.

It needs to be done properly.

 

[The Sultan]

The Ponsford public section shits on the terrible AFL members.

It needs to be done properly.

yep think its a pull it down and re-do.. might be a case of moving the AFL members to a different bay, obviously limiting seats and finals tickets etc. (prioritizing those with nominated clubs).
They could offer AFL members to "sit out" a year or so during re-build and still keep their place.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

I think this is a bit overly dramatic when the main reason I remain a Silver member is because ultimately I go to enough games of footy where it's incredibly good value for money to go to a live AFL game for something around $15 per ticket when you go to 30+ games. A lot of the other stuff is a bit secondary to me, not unimportant, but not a huge deal.

A priority for me is there should be greater political effort for the AFL to rebuild the stand. Even though the stand is only 10 years older than the Northern stands, it is incredibly dated, and as time and technology marches on, it becomes more and more out of date and, other than the actual watching of the games itself, not a very pleasant experience. The issue is is that it's outdated today. Once they confirm funding and plan the new stand, that's still several years to a decade away, meaning that the stand will be even more outdated then.

If there's one upside to the corporate encroachment is that at one point the AFL simply can't get the value out of it in such an outdated seat, forcing the hand a bit more if it was merely "just" a gold or silver member sitting in those in-demand seats.

If you think it's overly dramatic that's your prerogative however when I'm paying $680 a year and have been a member for almost 30 years I get frustrated with the continued dilution of the membership and the complete lack of transparency from the AFL.

MCC pay $875 a year and they get access to as many games as they want and don't need to pay extra for finals and Grand Final either. They have walk up access to most (all?) games and haven't had the best seats in their reserve siphoned off and given to Medallion Club/corporates/club members.

When you factor in the additional $200+ for GF tickets that full members pay we actually pay more than MCC for less privileges and worse facilities.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

yep think its a pull it down and re-do.. might be a case of moving the AFL members to a different bay, obviously limiting seats and finals tickets etc. (prioritizing those with nominated clubs).
They could offer AFL members to "sit out" a year or so during re-build and still keep their place.

Obviously i support Gold taking MCC or public space.

 

[The Sultan]

Not sure if this can be stickied to top of thread..contact for the AFL Members Association is

Aflma@aflma.com

send through following to get your name added to the mailing list.

• Given Name and Surname
• Email address
• Club of support
• AFL Member Number
• Mobile (optional)

 

[clarkoscluster]

It's more likely people misremember when they joined, or a clerical error has meant they've been passed over.

I’m 100% certain of my timeframe.

 

[TigerR]

When you factor in the additional $200+ for GF tickets that full members pay we actually pay more than MCC for less privileges and worse facilities.

The facilities are in fact, so much worse. I am foolishly paying for both memberships (neither at the top level) but that is another story.
The amount of money that the MCC makes over the AFL in the footy season for its dining, bars and so on would far exceed however much the AFL gets for its hospitality and Medallion tools. A lot of MCC members turn up early and spend up on food and drinks. It is hard to get in to dining for any sort of decent game, all done by ballot or walk up for the Long Room. The AFL seems to always have to push its dining. I realise there are space constraints on the AFL side, but they really need to find a way to get much better facilities in any redevelopment and the rest will take care of itself.

 

[MYOB]

The facilities are in fact, so much worse. I am foolishly paying for both memberships (neither at the top level) but that is another story.
The amount of money that the MCC makes over the AFL in the footy season for its dining, bars and so on would far exceed however much the AFL gets for its hospitality and Medallion tools. A lot of MCC members turn up early and spend up on food and drinks. It is hard to get in to dining for any sort of decent game, all done by ballot or walk up for the Long Room. The AFL seems to always have to push its dining. I realise there are space constraints on the AFL side, but they really need to find a way to get much better facilities in any redevelopment and the rest will take care of itself.

The AFL don't (and won't) need to do anything. They have a waitlist for people to become Silver.

It's pretty obvious they don't care about there AFL Members, and yet people continue to pay up every year

 

[Underarm]

If you think it's overly dramatic that's your prerogative however when I'm paying $680 a year and have been a member for almost 30 years I get frustrated with the continued dilution of the membership and the complete lack of transparency from the AFL.

MCC pay $875 a year and they get access to as many games as they want and don't need to pay extra for finals and Grand Final either. They have walk up access to most (all?) games and haven't had the best seats in their reserve siphoned off and given to Medallion Club/corporates/club members.

When you factor in the additional $200+ for GF tickets that full members pay we actually pay more than MCC for less privileges and worse facilities.

Just remember that if you were a 30 year MCC member you would have only got access to Grand finals last year. Current waitlist is 1992.