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No priority pick too. Also make it for the whole first round, not just top 10.The top 10 having no academy or fs would be a giant change.
Interesting to see if it goes through
Rumour posted last week is no academy or fs picks in the top 10. Dees would still have missed out.So if they revert back to NGA’s being unrestricted how long was that change in place for like four years?
Gotta feel for Melbourne, don’t get to select Mac Andrew because of AFL flip flopping
Rumour posted last week is no academy or fs picks in the top 10. Dees would still have missed out.
So if they revert back to NGA’s being unrestricted how long was that change in place for like four years?
Gotta feel for Melbourne, don’t get to select Mac Andrew because of AFL flip flopping
I agree, ploz give Motlop back to us, is only fairAge reporting this is likely. Extremely unfair to Melbourne and also hawthorn to have changed the rules and then changed them back so quickly
Nice, let everyone rort since the system is littered with inequalities from ground up including all the way to Grandfinals.Age reporting this is likely. Extremely unfair to Melbourne and also hawthorn to have changed the rules and then changed them back so quickly
I guess that's because the Vic / SA/WA clubs want it. The other alternative was to only allow Northern academies to match from pick 21 onwards, but no way they want to do that.Surprised to read that the NGA will potentially be brought into line with father sons and academies. Makes sense for them to all be the same, but also makes the draft even more compromised.
Turn a blind eye to Grand final ? Turn a blind eye to inherent inequalities in fixture? Turn a blind eye to our club getting 1 game at MCG all season for multiple years and have a running narrative of "oh Lions won't win in MCG". Tell you what, all the clubs can EAD for all I care, all the victorian morons can stick their head up their asses and keep going with their kumbaya. If you like it go join them by all means. Don't give a flying **** about what you think.
Yes we need to rort and we will continue to rort if on the other end AFL will continue to rort the grand final in favor of some incumbent Victorian clubs. Can't fix that can you? now shut up and sit down.
I don't have to chuck a hissy fit on anything as my take on father/son, academy, priority picks in the first round is very well documented even in this thread prior. Not going to re-hash for your mouth breathing views on as if academy is the greatest bane on the game and everything else is squeaky clean perfect like Grand finals, travel arrangements and Victorian clubs constantly gutting GWS, GC lists for their own well being.
Talk to me when you've moved Grand final out of MCG or talk to me when you've given consistent opportunity to all interstate clubs to play in the permanent Grand final venue. Until then your single minded hypocritical view on academy father-son is just hot air. Keep blowing it.
The top 10 having no academy or fs would be a giant change.
Interesting to see if it goes through
You seem to be very focused on the grand final at the MCG.
As the excuse for retaining academy rorts.
Problem there is the grand final only affects two clubs each year not every year which is what the academy bidding system does.
Last year Collingwood finished top and Lions 2nd. So the Pies actually earned home ground advantage in the GF even though it was already decided by AFL House.
When was the last time the Lions were unfairly disadvantaged by the GF automatically being at the MCG? Not recently.
Answer is simple. Help clubs and lists who need help more than those who do not. No matter where they are located.
If you can't agree with that it just shows how one eyed you are supporting your club and don't GAF about a fair competition.
Would Sydney/Brisbane want to swap home games out in order to play more games at the MCG? I mean this season perhaps is a rare one where Sydney may have chosen a riskier proposition in order to get MCG access but generally you’d think noI care about winning premierships mate, may be your priorities are different - can't help you there.
Run home from this round onwards:
Carlton - 3 games at MCG
Essendon - 4 games at MCG
Collingwood - 7 games at MCG
Melbourne - 5 games at MCG
Bulldogs - 0 games at MCG
Sydney - 0 games at MCG
Brisbane - 1 game at MCG
Geelong - 2 games at MCG
GWS - 2 games at MCG
Fremantle - 1 game at MCG
Of all finals bound teams, there is a clear advantage in fixture for certain clubs prior to the big event. This may seem like a non-factor to you, this is the type of inequality that is littered across the competition. Why should Swans get zero games at MCG from July through to finals and then show up to that ground on last day of september and expected to win? Can you ever fix this?
you are having a massive whinge about "academy rort, academy rort, academy rort" like a stupid parrot, while turning a blind eye to everything else out there.
Like I posted in many of my earlier posts - I am all for fairness, make first round pure like they do in other competitions. But in return bring travel equality, fixture equality before trivializing MCG advantage in finals that certain clubs seem to carry all season.
Would Sydney/Brisbane want to swap home games out in order to play more games at the MCG? I mean this season perhaps is a rare one where Sydney may have chosen a riskier proposition in order to get MCG access but generally you’d think no
I would have thought you prefer to play where you’re more likely to win and then ensure you’re good enough on the day to win anywhere
Remove the discount, rebalance the points table. There doesn't need to be any rules around where picks land or how many.I don't understand this idea of just artificial limiting with rules about which picks can match, limits to number of players.
If a wins the flag and has a pick 1 F/S or three players in the first round or whatever, let them match them if they have the points.
The issue is that the points in later picks are worth too much. It's a lot harder for teams to get the points for top players if they can't just trade down for more points (because teams with 3rd round picks have less points), plus, with a different scale, finals teams are getting fewer points than top teams anyway).
If a team can somehow trade out enough players or future draft assets that they somehow have eight second round picks and eight list spots free to match three players in the first round or two top 10 players or whatever, more power to them. The issue is that teams can match those players currently with five or six second round picks, not eight.
Throw in the 20% discount - maybe we can still have a discount for the same principle but make it 5% or whatever, and it gets fixed.
The logic behind why the rules were implemented in the first place have not changed - removing access just undermines the systems and investments in the first place, which just seems illogical.
The AFL don't allocate games on the last third of the season till half-way through the season. They need to start giving the top 10 teams MCG exposure (priority). How simple would it be to make sure teams get priority to MCG whilst playing in Melbourne if they are in the top 10.I care about winning premierships mate, may be your priorities are different - can't help you there.
Run home from this round onwards:
Carlton - 3 games at MCG
Essendon - 4 games at MCG
Collingwood - 7 games at MCG
Melbourne - 5 games at MCG
Bulldogs - 0 games at MCG
Sydney - 0 games at MCG
Brisbane - 1 game at MCG
Geelong - 2 games at MCG
GWS - 2 games at MCG
Fremantle - 1 game at MCG
Of all finals bound teams, there is a clear advantage in fixture for certain clubs prior to the big event. This may seem like a non-factor to you, this is the type of inequality that is littered across the competition. Why should Swans get zero games at MCG from July through to finals and then show up to that ground on last day of september and expected to win? Can you ever fix this?
you are having a massive whinge about "academy rort, academy rort, academy rort" like a stupid parrot, while turning a blind eye to everything else out there.
Like I posted in many of my earlier posts - I am all for fairness, make first round pure like they do in other competitions. But in return bring travel equality, fixture equality before trivializing MCG advantage in finals that certain clubs seem to carry all season.
It would almost solve the problem but the only thing is it’s fairer to make teams use a certain amount of picks because it makes them use picks closer to the bid meaning earlier draft picks get eaten up by matching which stops teams getting pushed back in the draft.Remove the discount, rebalance the points table. There doesn't need to be any rules around where picks land or how many.
This whole issue could have been fixed in 5 minutes, 10 years ago.
On Father/son academy. Kill the discount and make sure teams have a pick within 10-15 of the pick they get the player at and no extra picks they don't have places for.