Rumour AFLW player refuses to wear pride jumper

[Run n Spread]

Muslim AFLW player refuses to wear pride jumper, sits out game

Greater Western Sydney player and practising Muslim Haneen Zreika will not play this weekend after deciding not to wear the team’s pride jumper on religious grounds.

www.news.com.au

Don't know where else to put this. Probs not the right board but mods feel free to move.

On one hand not sure what my exact position is.

One side of the coin (my position) Gay people have unalienable human rights and deserve absolutely full inclusion in a society they are very much a part of.

Yet the Islamic community have made absolutely no secret of their disdain for homosexuality so not quite sure how Haneen Zreika is somehow been accused of double standards. (amoung the comments on the article <Ilinked news.com but also on others>).

There are others that know far more about this then me on this site but personally found this odd.

She can sit out the game and fair enough but in no way does she deserve criticism. A pillar of Australian society is free speech whih is also the right to critique her position.

 

[GROTTO]

Muslim AFLW player refuses to wear pride jumper, sits out game

Greater Western Sydney player and practising Muslim Haneen Zreika will not play this weekend after deciding not to wear the team’s pride jumper on religious grounds.

www.news.com.au

Don't know where else to put this. Probs not the right board but mods feel free to move.

On one hand not sure what my exact position is.

One side of the coin (my position) Gay people have unalienable human rights and deserve absolutely full inclusion in a society they are very much a part of.

Yet the Islamic community have made absolutely no secret of their disdain for homosexuality so not quite sure how Haneen Zreika is somehow been accused of double standards. (amoung the comments on the article <Ilinked news.com but also on others>).

There are others that know far more about this then me on this site but personally found this odd.

She can sit out the game and fair enough but in no way does she deserve criticism. A pillar of Australian society is free speech whih is also the right to critique her position.

Im fairly sure there would be AFL players that feel the same way but making a statement like this will only alienate herself from some team mates and other players from other clubs.

I dont think her wearing a Pride jumper for a game and having her religious views would be seen as double standards or even acknowledged to be honest, but now she has created an issue unnecessarily for herself.

Find it hard to believe all her teammates would be supporting her here.

 

[acm21]

Considering the high proportion of lgbtiq players within the aflw there would be some who are not happy with the situation. I'm not sure what would.make her position hypocritical though. But yeah not an easy debate to choose either side of the debate.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Im fairly sure there would be AFL players that feel the same way but making a statement like this will only alienate herself from some team mates and other players from other clubs.

I dont think her wearing a Pride jumper for a game and having her religious views would be seen as double standards or even acknowledged to be honest, but now she has created an issue unnecessarily for herself.

Find it hard to believe all her teammates would be supporting her here.

They would be pretty ignorant to not support her. Do they not care about the pushback she could receive from her community?

 

[acm21]

They would be pretty ignorant to not support her. Do they not care about the pushback she could receive from her community?

It would be internal push back and annoyance. I doubt any player would publicly denounce her stance.

 

[RUNVS]

Quite frankly I would introduce an immigration question stating "do you believe that men and women are equal" and "do you believe that LGBTI people are equal to heterosexual people" or words to that effect and if they answer "no" to either question their immigration request is denied. Why make the country worse with bringing in people with backwards views.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Quite frankly I would introduce an immigration question stating "do you believe that men and women are equal" and "do you believe that LGBTI people are equal to heterosexual people" or words to that effect and if they answer "no" to either question their immigration request is denied. Why make the country worse with bringing in people with backwards views.

What has immigration got to do with this issue. She was born here?????

 

[Post padding]

What has immigration got to do with this issue. She was born here?????

Third generation I believe

 

[RUNVS]

What has immigration got to do with this issue. She was born here?????

Yes and her parents likely taught her these beliefs.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Third generation I believe

Quite frankly, BF needs to introduce a redneck filter.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yes and her parents likely taught her these beliefs.

So what, another poster has just said her parents were born here too. True blue Aussies?????

 

[RUNVS]

So what, another poster has just said her parents were born here too. True blue Aussies?????

I am talking about in the future. Do you really want more homophobes and sexists becoming Australian citizens?

 

[Slartibartfast]

I am talking about in the future. Do you really want more homophobes and sexists becoming Australian citizens?

I dont want people like you who are full of hate!!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

One of them doesn't have a choice in how they feel, the other chooses to believe that they have an imaginary friend that lives in the clouds.

 

[Farang83150]

A day or 2 after the game and no one will GAF, unfortunately that's how it goes.

 

[RUNVS]

I dont want people like you who are full of hate!!

I am intolerant of people who are intolerant.

 

[Slartibartfast]

One of them doesn't have a choice in how they feel, the other chooses to believe that they have an imaginary friend that lives in the clouds.

I agree, it is a rather crazy concept but she is not asking for anyone else to believe it or change there ways.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I agree, it is a rather crazy concept but she is not asking for anyone else to believe it or change there ways.

Unfortunately though she's aligning herself with an ideal that's not as innocent as her individual action might be.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I am intolerant of people who are intolerant.

Utter crap, you love to hate. You showed that in the meatloaf thread , guy dies and all you want to do is trash him. What have you ever achieved in life??

You raise immigration even though it has nothing to do with it. You dont care about gay rights , you care about someone having a view that is different to your own.
You want a Anglo Saxon society in which no ones challenges your narrow antiquated view of life.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Unfortunately though she's aligning herself with an ideal that's not as innocent as her individual action might be.

Not a fan of religions and most have ideals that make me cringe but as long as they dont try to normalise that that as part of mainstream life I am ok.

unfortunately we have seen the liberal party at the behest of the Christian religions trying to make it lawful to discriminate against homosexuality, the Islamic religions have NOT been a part of this effort which is quite telling.

interesting you dont see the haters jump all over that policy or Christian church’s on here.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

A day or 2 after the game and no one will GAF, unfortunately that's how it goes.

Let's be honest here
Th3Gay and Trans community here in Australia has far more pressing issues to worry about.

This so called 'scandal' was raised by hypocritical Christian Right Wing Nutjobs trying to deflect from their own decades own politically and church endorsed homophobia

Naneen not willing to wear the Pride Jumper is disappointing but hardly a crime against humanity.

Also it won't stop the 100s of homophobic slurs I hear at the footy every week.

At the very least, this issue has given an otherwise tedious and mediocre AFLW season much needed media attention.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Gil McDildo actually orchestrated this whole fiasco tbh. He is a grub.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Muslim AFLW player refuses to wear pride jumper, sits out game

Greater Western Sydney player and practising Muslim Haneen Zreika will not play this weekend after deciding not to wear the team’s pride jumper on religious grounds.

www.news.com.au

Don't know where else to put this. Probs not the right board but mods feel free to move.

On one hand not sure what my exact position is.

One side of the coin (my position) Gay people have unalienable human rights and deserve absolutely full inclusion in a society they are very much a part of.

Yet the Islamic community have made absolutely no secret of their disdain for homosexuality so not quite sure how Haneen Zreika is somehow been accused of double standards. (amoung the comments on the article <Ilinked news.com but also on others>).

There are others that know far more about this then me on this site but personally found this odd.

She can sit out the game and fair enough but in no way does she deserve criticism. A pillar of Australian society is free speech whih is also the right to critique her position.

Everyone is entitled to their views. Whether people agree with her views is their choice.
She hasn't killed anyone or beaten anyone up. She's just expressed her view, which in Australia she's allowed to do.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

I'm not sure if the AFL can afford to tolerate the intolerant.

The AFL must be inclusive and this means banning people with opposing views.

What if somebody tried to use religion as their reason for not believing transgender people should be allowed to play AFLW?

Time to nip this one in the bud.

 

[GROTTO]

Everyone is entitled to their views. Whether people agree with her views is their choice.
She hasn't killed anyone or beaten anyone up. She's just expressed her view, which in Australia she's allowed to do.

I do respect her choice.

But she has been advised badly here. Could have played the old injury card for a season or two each time the game is played and given more time to think about her choice. Thereby her choice is respected and at the same time not upsetting team mates and other players.

No one would have really clued on what was actually happening.

 

[GROTTO]

They would be pretty ignorant to not support her. Do they not care about the pushback she could receive from her community?

I think its ignorant to support her.