Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

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We’re on shaky ground if we’re saying depictions of sexual assault are ok IF the level of ‘artistry and sensitivity’ is considered to have a met some sort of arbitrarily defined benchmark.

I'm asking you. Do you think making a joke out of sexual assault is funny?

Which sexual assaults are we talking about?
 
Yeah, I'm probably not leaving it up to the judgement of a group of boozed-up blokes to judge what is and what's not harmless.
If it's between themselves and no one else, and they all agree to themselves that it is not harmless to themselves, then it is not harmless because no one else is involved.
 
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If it's between themselves and no one else, and they all agree to themselves that it is not harmless, then it is not harmless because no one else is involved.
Mate, you're a great poster and a sound thinker. Surely you've thought about this a bit deeper than that. There's a line that can be crossed, even amongst a private room full of people who appear to be in unison. Full agreement on harmlessness shouldn't come with an "anything goes" clause.

I've been in a room of blokes when I was younger full of perceived harmless fun, which with the hindsight of 30+ years later was actually attempted rape. And there's a whole lot of jail cells full of creeps who thought that sharing torture pr0n or kiddie pr0n amongst likeminded souls was harmless.

For the record, I'm not offended by anything that went on in that Giants room. Why should I be? I wasn't the butt of their skits and as a result I've no real right to feel aggrieved or reviled. It obviously wasn't kiddie pr0n on their big private screens, but I'd be a pretty shallow thinker if I didn't recognise that others still might feel humiliated by the Giants stuff.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.
 
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Mate, you're a great poster and a sound thinker. Surely you've thought about this a bit deeper than that. There's a line that can be crossed, even amongst a private room full of people who appear to be in unison.

I've been in a room of blokes when I was younger full of perceived harmless fun, which with the hindsight of 30+ years later was actually attempted rape. And there's a whole lot of jail cells full of creeps who thought that sharing torture pr0n or kiddie pr0n amongst likeminded souls was harmless.

For the record, I'm not offended by anything that went on in that Giants room. Why should I be? I wasn't the butt of their skits and as a result I've no real right to feel aggrieved or reviled. It obviously wasn't kiddie pr0n on their big private screens, but I'd be a pretty shallow thinker if I didn't recognise that others still might feel humiliated by the Giants stuff.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.
As I've stated on several occasions, I'm not defending their actions, I'm defending their right to privacy and that would entail the staff that worked there to accept that on their employers directive if that was the case.

We don't know if that was the case, but it should've been.

The idea of it not being public, which one would fairly assume would've been the intent, then that wish for it not to be public should've been upheld.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.

All of which could've been avoided if the paid for privacy was provided.
 
As I've stated on several occasions, I'm not defending their actions, I'm defending their right to privacy and that would entail the staff that worked there to accept that on their employers directive if that was the case.

We don't know if that was the case, but it should've been.

The idea of it not being public, which one would fairly assume would've been the intent, then that wish for it not to be public should've been upheld.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.

All of which could've been avoided if the paid for privacy was provided.
Private or secret, doesn’t make it any better, which is the point. If they don’t want anyone to know about it, they kinda know it’s not something to be proud of.
 
As I've stated on several occasions, I'm not defending their actions, I'm defending their right to privacy and that would entail the staff that worked there to accept that on their employers directive if that was the case.

We don't know if that was the case, but it should've been.

The idea of it not being public, which one would fairly assume would've been the intent, then that wish for it not to be public should've been upheld.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.

All of which could've been avoided if the paid for privacy was provided.

You drive a private vehicle, but people can still look through the windows.

VicRoads has a lot to answer for.
 
About 20 years ago a bunch of guys did a jackson five impersonation on hhis red faces . Harry connick jnr almost caused the show to close down as he was offended as a judge

The kicker was that the guys were indian med students
Mate, they basically dunked their heads in boot polish and put on afro wigs. It was a straight up minstrel show, and whether the singer was Indian or not (FWIW, not all of the group was) doesn't matter, because the act was so far gone.

They weren't students, either. They'd done the same act on the show 20 years prior and were invited back for the reunion.

For what it's worth, though, I remember at the time (I was a Uni student) thinking that Connick Jr was over the top - that he was being a bit too uptight, and a bit too 'woke' (for want of that particular word in the 2000s). I look back at it now, and think that Connick Jr was absolutely right, and we had a long way to go in race relations in this country.
 
Mate, they basically dunked their heads in boot polish and put on afro wigs. It was a straight up minstrel show, and whether the singer was Indian or not (FWIW, not all of the group was) doesn't matter, because the act was so far gone.

They weren't students, either. They'd done the same act on the show 20 years prior and were invited back for the reunion.

For what it's worth, though, I remember at the time (I was a Uni student) thinking that Connick Jr was over the top - that he was being a bit too uptight, and a bit too 'woke' (for want of that particular word in the 2000s). I look back at it now, and think that Connick Jr was absolutely right, and we had a long way to go in race relations in this country.
HCJ is from North America, so they view everything through the prism of race given their history. It's their first response to any situation where race is clearly different, to imput some sort of racism or discrimination or whatnot. Our social context here is no where near as racially charged. Look at that dingbat Eric Andre (comedian) who tried to play the race card coming through Australian customs. It's their first reaction to anything - make it about racism.
 
HCJ is from North America, so they view everything through the prism of race given their history. It's their first response to any situation where race is clearly different, to imput some sort of racism or discrimination or whatnot. Our social context here is no where near as racially charged
I certainly agree that the US environment is much more racially charged, as HCJ pointed out, if you tried that skit in the US you'd have been off the air by the next commercial break.
 

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As I've stated on several occasions, I'm not defending their actions, I'm defending their right to privacy and that would entail the staff that worked there to accept that on their employers directive if that was the case.

We don't know if that was the case, but it should've been.

The idea of it not being public, which one would fairly assume would've been the intent, then that wish for it not to be public should've been upheld.

At the very least, these young blokes were extremely ignorant, and it looks like they are now paying the price for their stupidity.

All of which could've been avoided if the paid for privacy was provided.
You sound like youre expecting that staff should have signed NDAs before the event. If a worker feels unsafe at any stage before, during or after an event at their workplace, they are well within their rights to report it. Good on them for having the courage to speak out. If you want your actions to remain private, do them at home, not at a pub. Which is short for public house btw
 
Private or secret, doesn’t make it any better, which is the point. If they don’t want anyone to know about it, they kinda know it’s not something to be proud of.
Maybe as a society we go looking in private spaces and lives to weed out this behaviour
 
Maybe as a society we go looking in private spaces and lives to weed out this behaviour
Obviously not, but people in the public eye need to be extra vigilant about their behaviour. Because it always gets out.
 
Obviously not, but people in the public eye need to be extra vigilant about their behaviour. Because it always gets out.
Don't know how many times I need to explain this.

The obvious intent was this debacle to NOT be public.

Sure they got it wrong big time, but that doesn't change the fact that they should've been afforded their privacy. It should be their right.

Otherwise don't advertise rooms for 'private' functions, coz obviously it's not private.
 
Don't know how many times I need to explain this.

The obvious intent was this debacle to NOT be public.

Sure they got it wrong big time, but that doesn't change the fact that they should've been afforded their privacy. It should be their right.

Otherwise don't advertise rooms for 'private' functions, coz obviously it's not private.
Think of the number of prominent people who've been caught doing the questionable thing. It's almost a daily event. Of course it was never meant to get out. It just does.
 
You drive a private vehicle, but people can still look through the windows.

VicRoads has a lot to answer for.
Manufacturers offer privacy glass to, you know, keep prying eyes out. Only those who go out of their way to look through it do so.
They can hardly be offended by what they then see.

Old mate viewing the cctv chose to see what the fuss was about.

I see and hear shit I dont like almost every day in my job, Id rather leave it there than make an issue of it because its not my place and im professional enough to know that.
 
Don't know how many times I need to explain this.

The obvious intent was this debacle to NOT be public.

Sure they got it wrong big time, but that doesn't change the fact that they should've been afforded their privacy. It should be their right.

Otherwise don't advertise rooms for 'private' functions, coz obviously it's not private.
My understanding of venues offering "Private Function" is that it implies attendance is restricted exclusively for invitees, not necessarily an 'anything goes" policy within that room that is bound by some strict confidentiality agreement.

I worked for years in a club that regularly had private functions, often involving well known sporting and entertainment celebrities, and even politicians at times. Whilst it never got really debaucherous - although there were some activities that went on that would be regarded as highly questionable today - we as employees were never bound by some confidentiality clause.

Any expectation of strict privacy in the sense that you're suggesting went out when they allowed people to carry devices with cameras, recording equipment etc everywhere they go. And trying to take those off people nowadays would be nearly as hard as trying to take semi-automatic weapons off Americans.
 

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