Coach Alastair Clarkson III - new NMFC senior coach until at least end 2027 - NMFC board approved AC to start 1/11 amid ongoing HFC racism investigation

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About as bad as it gets.

The AFL has no choice but to stand Clarkson & Fagan down and irrespective of what happens from here - including if the report itself is brought into question - it's hard to see a way back for either of them. It will be seen as sweeping one of the most shocking developments in the history of the game under the rug.

Horrific findings aside there are so many questions. Why now? Why did the AFL, report in hand, softball our assistance package? What were they thinking?

What does this mean for Hawthorn, who appears to have willfully buried this matter until such time the fall out was to be experienced elsewhere? The idea that we're about to be set back another five years while they just truck on saying sorry and losing a few support staff is wholly egregious and utterly reprehensible. That is not justice.
Can't see us getting off scot free with an apology. The fallout will surely still be huge for us. The allegations are too serious and too recent. Hawthorn carries the guilt and shame of damaging players lives, and their families lives, not North. At least your club is the innocent party (as aggravating as that is, it's a good thing).

Having said that, I feel bad for you lot - as if you haven't had enough shit to deal with in recent years.
 

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Hi guys. Long time reader, first time poster.
 
I must say, I am incredibly impressed by how well the vast majority of your board is responding to what are devastating and heart-breaking allegations. I just think you guys are showing a lot of class for what it's worth. Horrible situation.
Again the footy isnā€™t really important here
 
Something here smells of Hawthorn not being entirely honest and transparent here in conducting this report, to put it mildly.

While there are plenty of unproven allegations, letā€™s put them aside for the time being and look at the FACTS:

  • Clarko has a great standing in the game, very good reputation and is widely respected.
  • Very similar things can be said of Fagan
  • Both coaches have great relationships with a number of indigenous players, including those who joined from other clubs and havenā€™t said one bad thing about either coach. Wonā€™t bother listing names here
  • Some of these players are seriously considering coming to North just to be reunited with former coach
  • Hawthornā€™s president has been well documented for having issues with dealing with indigenous players with Rioli case being a recent public example of this. Yet not one comment today has mentioned Kennett as part of the problem, in fact itā€™s been said the club is now a great place for indigenous players, despite Kennett still being there and Rioli refusing to come back to the club
  • add to that the somewhat weird timing of this report, something tells me itā€™s not 100% full of integrity, once again to put it mildly.

But some people donā€™t like to look at the facts, instead preferring to jump out of their pants with righteous and presumptuous comments


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How about the fact that Hawthorn sacked him during his contracted period and preferred to pay him a million bucks to stay away from their club? At the time (in the Ross Lyon thread) I said that this was because almost everyone at HFC hated him and couldn't work with him. It's still true.
 
I must say, I am incredibly impressed by how well the vast majority of your board is responding to what are devastating and heart-breaking allegations. I just think you guys are showing a lot of class for what it's worth. Horrible situation.
Have gained a lot of respect for North fans over the last few years. Rarely see a fan base so classy while the team isnā€™t performing
 

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I must say, I am incredibly impressed by how well the vast majority of your board is responding to what are devastating and heart-breaking allegations. I just think you guys are showing a lot of class for what it's worth. Horrible situation.
Have to say the same about opposition supporters such as yourself. nice to see people treating this with the weight it deserves and not taking the opportunity for trolling and cheap shots, for the most part.
 
Me too, if I were to put my physical and mental health as my first priority in life, I would not support North anymore. Its getting too hard, through no fault of the NMFC.
I can understand where youā€™re coming from speedy.

I canā€™t relate entirely but whatā€™s deflating is that the hope we had as a football club when Clarko signed, that weeks and weeks of tense build up with over 22,000 invested posts - and it was potentially all for nothing.

North will always get smashed in the media, but we had hope with Clarko.
Thatā€™s all we wanted. A genuine shot.
If that gets taken away it will leave a very hollow feeling and I donā€™t begrudge anyone who checks out and needs a breather as a result.
 
Yep. Normally you don't go straight to the gallows without a fair trial.

The unsavoury nature of the allegations seems to have so many people eager to quickly pass judgement and proceed with sentencing.
Come on man you're too intelligent for this. In what universe is something like this completely fabricated? A journalist with a history of rigorous and accurate investigative work, published by the ABC, in a country with the most stringent defamation laws in the world...there is some wriggle room for exactly what happened but seriously...something has happened here, and whatever it is is definitely unsavoury.
 
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Probably going to take a long break away from bigfooty after itā€™s announced Clarko will be stood down
I can understand where youā€™re coming from speedy.

I canā€™t relate entirely but whatā€™s deflating is that the hope we had as a football club when Clarko signed, that weeks and weeks of tense build up with over 22,000 invested posts - and it was potentially all for nothing.

North will always get smashed in the media, but we had hope with Clarko.
Thatā€™s all we wanted. A genuine shot.
If that gets taken away it will leave a very hollow feeling and I donā€™t begrudge anyone who checks out and needs a breather as a result.
hang around, we are all here for each other... also we have been shat upon so many times and are still here... so always remember nothing will kill this club, our people wont let it happen
 
Have to say the same about opposition supporters such as yourself. nice to see people treating this with the weight it deserves and not taking the opportunity for trolling and cheap shots, for the most part.
this is beyond partisan games. It's incomprehensible. And as a supporter of a club also in the doldrums, I genuinely feel empathy for you guys. I really enjoyed your threads in the lead up to the Clarko appointment and I was actually quite pleased for you all. Dreadful day for footy
 
Come on man you're too intelligent for this. In what universe is something like this completely fabricated? A journalist with a history of rigorous and accurate investigative work, published by the ABC, in a country with the most stringent defamation laws in the world...there is some wriggle room for exactly what happened but if seriously...something has happened here, and whatever it is is definitely unsavoury.

Yep. As much as I want to wait for more information to come out, difficult to see it being anything other than just how far it went.
 
Great thatā€™s what need the Deeā€™s fair police to post in our thread.
Who cares what club I support. I'm going to go into bat for Burgoyne if he's gonna be used as a political football to discredit the allegations. I've made my sympathy for North known ITT.
 
You lads think there's anything in Jed not being offered a new contract? I feel like he was more than good enough to be offered one.

I was a fan of his but it wasn't unreasonable, particularly with Greenwood on the list (for another two years lol). Some say he didn't acquit himself all that flash with the covid issue + his fitness either.
 
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