Coach Alastair Clarkson IV - HFC Racism Investigation Discussion

[Ligma]

Agree as I‘m a Diamond Creek Women’s FC supporter and President.

Wow that’s awesome!!

Bloody diamo!! We will get them next year

 

[Merlin007]

Yes and no.

They, and Amy, seemed to want a macro look at racism within the afl. And especially how the afl itself dealt with incidents of racism.

The current investigation will solely look at hawthorn and the allegations made.

The four people/families were convinced to join when the afl promised to do a league wide review at some point later.

So Clarkson still needs to convince a four member independent panel of his relative innocence. If he’s found guilty in anyway for his actions, he’ll be sentenced by the afl.

That’s not quite right - as I read the ToR, if adverse findings are made they will be referred under AFL rules to a disciplinary process. Although it would obviously be difficult given the composition of the review panel, it would still be open to Clarkson/Fagan/Burt to argue that the panel’s conclusions were not justified on the evidence, or some procedural error was made. Similar to appealing tribunal decisions

 

[Del191229]

In Jake Niall's piece re Gowers he doesn't refer to the "forced abortion" claims, or any of them other than "allegations".

No other media have ever backed up Rusty's story, now they're walking away from it, as is the ABC.

Even the key source of the claim won't talk to it any further, even if she hasn't retracted it fully.

Rusty has a big old humiliating climbdown and apology coming up at him real fast

 

[Del191229]

It reminds me of the phone hacking stuff when the most gruesome claim that captured public attention - that NoTW joutnos actively deleted messages off Milly Dowlers phone, making her parents think she was still alive - was later proven to be incorrect and a retraction issued

 

[Hearts to hearts]

It reminds me of the phone hacking stuff when the most gruesome claim that captured public attention - that NoTW joutnos actively deleted messages off Milly Dowlers phone, making her parents think she was still alive - was later proven to be incorrect and a retraction issued

Using that analogy, though, if you asked 100 people I bet 98 of them never heard about the retraction and still think it’s true.

 

[Del191229]

Using that analogy, though, if you asked 100 people I bet 98 of them never heard about the retraction and still think it’s true.

Yep, and I suspect similar will happen here.

 

[Del191229]

Main board brane is amazing.

When one dude was a kid, his school bus driver drove across a flooded creek.

Thus Clarko cannot coach.

 

[Shinboner1]

Main board brane is amazing.

When one dude was a kid, his school bus driver drove across a flooded creek.

Thus Clarko cannot coach.

Better hope these aren't the type of people that will decide his fate at the hearing.

 

[Del191229]

Better hope these aren't the type of people that will decide his fate at the hearing.

I think this one struggles to decide his own fate at those electronic ordering boards at Maccas.

 

[Shinboner1]

I think this one struggles to decide his own fate at those electronic ordering boards at Maccas.

To be fair they're pretty confusing for old people

 

[Mr Lloyd Christmas]

 

[mcnulty]

Main board brane is amazing.

When one dude was a kid, his school bus driver drove across a flooded creek.

Thus Clarko cannot coach.

I’ve been turfed out of there. Not sure for what precisely but getting my updates over here. Think there are a few over there mashing the report button and mods who are desperate to accommodate them. I mean Gralin…Jesus wept

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I’ve been turfed out of there. Not sure for what precisely but getting my updates over here. Think there are a few over there mashing the report button and mods who are desperate to accommodate them. I mean Gralin…Jesus wept

In the MB thread, if you don't have absolute belief in the complainants, and dare to suggest that there may be other potential sides to the story, you're basically tarred and feathered as a racist and driven out of town.

 

[mcnulty]

In the MB thread, if you don't have absolute belief in the complainants, and dare to suggest that there may be other potential sides to the story, you're basically tarred and feathered as a racist and driven out of town.

It’s just the sanctimony…the Hawks board is just as bad with a few notable exceptions, but the mod (active on the MB) treats it like his own personal fiefdom, and has a severe Napoleon complex. I won’t linger, but it’s much more entertaining here.

 

[blackshadow]

In the MB thread, if you don't have absolute belief in the complainants, and dare to suggest that there may be other potential sides to the story, you're basically tarred and feathered as a racist and driven out of town.

And heaven forbid if you dare question Saint Rusty the Brave (who bravely blocked all in Sunbury on Twitter)

 

[the big lebowski]

Fortunately it should be over soon

 

[DrZaius]

In the MB thread, if you don't have absolute belief in the complainants, and dare to suggest that there may be other potential sides to the story, you're basically tarred and feathered as a racist and driven out of town.

To be fair there is a bit of the opposite in this thread, but overall definitely much more balanced. Why anyone would venture onto the septic tank that is the main board these days though is a mystery

 

[kool kangas]

As North are always the club to show initative when it comes to thinking outside the box, eg.Friday night football, and GF Breakfast, "if" Clarko hasn't been able to help us move forward after his 5 year contract l think it should be Kearney for the AFLs first female head Coach..

 

[Del191229]

I’ve been turfed out of there. Not sure for what precisely but getting my updates over here. Think there are a few over there mashing the report button and mods who are desperate to accommodate them. I mean Gralin…Jesus wept

Same here. I'm not sure how they are going to cope with the release of the report investigation

 

[Del191229]

It’s just the sanctimony…the Hawks board is just as bad with a few notable exceptions, but the mod (active on the MB) treats it like his own personal fiefdom, and has a severe Napoleon complex. I won’t linger, but it’s much more entertaining here.

You're welcome to stay in my book

 

[The acurate one]

It’s just the sanctimony…the Hawks board is just as bad with a few notable exceptions, but the mod (active on the MB) treats it like his own personal fiefdom, and has a severe Napoleon complex. I won’t linger, but it’s much more entertaining here.

You’re welcome to hang around, I love Dennis Pagan but he has shitted me in the past.

How some of the Hawk faithful have turned on four time premiership coach al Clarko I found quite alarming

Oh well as we say I’m here

 

[danj]

You’re welcome to hang around, I love Dennis Pagan but he has shitted me in the past.

How some of the Hawk faithful have turned on four time premiership coach al Clarko I found quite alarming

Oh well as we say I’m here

As a horse trainer Denis still shits me

 

[Hearts to hearts]

I think this one struggles to decide his own fate at those electronic ordering boards at Maccas.

To be fair they're pretty confusing for old people

It’s true.

 

[All In Sunbury]

And heaven forbid if you dare question Saint Rusty the Brave (who bravely blocked all in Sunbury on Twitter)

Yep, him and Mike Carlton have that in common.

 

[Val Keating]

You’re welcome to hang around, I love Dennis Pagan but he has shitted me in the past.

How some of the Hawk faithful have turned on four time premiership coach al Clarko I found quite alarming

Oh well as we say I’m here

That’s one of the most bizarre things about it. To see hawthorn people pile shit on their own club is something else.