Traded Alex Keath [traded with a future 3rd to Western Bulldogs for #45 and future 2nd]

[marty36]

Come back to us, Alex.

You got a second

 

[Northernsoul74]

Only kicker is pick 45 is completely and utterly worthless and pick 37 not much difference. Unless we can give them away in a pick swap I would certainly rather keep Keith at that rate. A few more years of Keith is better than a couple of list clogging potatoes.

I must say it's refreshing dealing with WB supporters in comparison to certain other clubs supporters of prior years...

Honest question, why don’t Crows just keep Keath? By all accounts he wanted to stay but the contract offer was poor.

 

[DangerSloane]

We’ll see. Reached finals with one of the youngest lists in the afl. All our best players tied to long term contracts. Biggest salary cap space in the AFL. We tend to draft very well so happy to back in the club instead of overpaying for a coupe of nice to haves.

Its not really overpaying though.
Most are in agreement on Keath's worth.
Its up to WB to come up with the price.

 

[skittlebrew]

I understand what you are saying but pick 37 is a 2nd rounder and we get a 3rd rounder too - I'd take that. I think Geelong may have limited list spots so downgrading a pick 37 by 14 places to get jenkins with some of his salary is probably no deal breaker and the dogs will feel like they get a win by only offloading a couple of 3rd rounders.

Pick 37 we can take to the draft and get a decent player no doubt. pick 45 we might look to use with another pick to trade up a bit??. I guess I was just trying to see if there was a deal that worked for all parties that was also fair

If 37 is a second then fair enough, just disappointing it's a bit high. Go to each draft and look at players 37 onwards, it ain't pretty. Reid would take that trade in a heartbeat, bloke is a pushover.

 

[Foucault1989]

I cannot believe that anyone would think that Keath is worth more than a pick 40.

 

[marty36]

Trade radio say, no deal he will end up in the PSD at the GC

I suppose if no deal is done, choices will be, try and resign or goes to GC

IS what it is

 

[Northernsoul74]

Its not really overpaying though.
Most are in agreement on Keath's worth.
Its up to WB to come up with the price.

Out of contract and nominated is generally a buyers market. I agree some sort of mid second is his worth and we will be trying to get you one. The point is what if we can’t? You either let him walk to the draft for nothing, take what we have or find another club he’ll go to.

 

[chef]

Im convinced the Saints will not take 32

I cant see the Bruce deal not happening.

 

[Northernsoul74]

If 37 is a second then fair enough, just disappointing it's a bit high. Go to each draft and look at players 37 onwards, it ain't pretty. Reid would take that trade in a heartbeat, bloke is a pushover.

You’re not comparing apples with apples though are you.

 

[marty36]

I cant see the Bruce deal not happening.

IF it doesn't all sweet, Keath for 32

 

[DangerSloane]

Out of contract and nominated is generally a buyers market. I agree some sort of mid second is his worth and we will be trying to get you one. The point is what if we can’t? You either let him walk to the draft for nothing, take what we have or find another club he’ll go to.

He works out whether he wants to stay or be dealt somewhere else like Gold Coast which is being mentioned.

We're not being held over a barrel by a guy that has played 30 games.

Hes after money so he doesnt really care if he gets it from you or someone else, possibly through PSD option (although I think he'd respect the club and ask to be traded to gold coast).

 

[marty36]

He works out whether he wants to stay or be dealt somewhere else like Gold Coast which is being mentioned.

We're not being held over a barrel by a guy that has played 30 games.

Hes after money so he doesnt really care if he gets it from you or someone else.

Plan B is obviously better if we get bugger all out of the deal, better off trying to offer him more and he could stay, new coach can sell it to him

 

[Northernsoul74]

He works out whether he wants to stay or be dealt somewhere else like Gold Coast which is being mentioned.

We're not being held over a barrel by a guy that has played 30 games.

Hes after money so he doesnt really care if he gets it from you or someone else.

True, good luck to him. Hasn’t he already turned down Gold Coast once in his career?

 

[DangerSloane]

True, good luck to him. Hasn’t he already turned down Gold Coast once in his career?

Left gold coast to play cricket.
Was on rookie wage then. Small difference between that and getting what 400-500k?

Put it this way, not getting Keath for the bulldogs is a bigger deal than us losing him for nothing (especially if the offer is a pick in the 40s)

 

[HFF]

Surely pick 13 isn’t a serious discussion point in this potential deal?

It’s laughable.

 

[chef]

IF it doesn't all sweet, Keath for 32

They'll both get done.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

I won't be upset if it doesn't get done. I would rather Bruce.

Back in Lewis Young who still is only 20 years old. His debut was really early in 2017.

 

[TryAnHit]

Surely pick 13 isn’t a serious discussion point in this potential deal?

It’s laughable.

Crows wanted 13 for keath + 23 which is same as 32

 

[Northernsoul74]

Crows wanted 13 for keath + 23 which is same as 32

Meaning we would then have to use 23 on Bruce.

 

[Boyd oh Boyd]

Crows wanted 13 for keath + 23 which is same as 32

On points. Who cares about points unless you're matching a bid?

 

[MotleyLemon]

Crows wanted 13 for keath + 23 which is same as 32

Except it's not.

 

[mattwa]

IMO we need Keath more than Bruce

 

[skittlebrew]

You’re not comparing apples with apples though are you.

As in it's a weaker draft this year so pick 37 carries even less weight?

We have something of value (Keith) which we would be parlaying into something of virtually zero value (late picks).

fwiw we ain't getting your first, I sure it will through with those junk picks.

 

[Northernsoul74]

As in it's a weaker draft this year so pick 37 carries even less weight?

We have something of value (Keith) which we would be parlaying into something of virtually zero value (late picks).

fwiw we ain't getting your first, I sure it will through with those junk picks.

Surely we can find another club to get involved or take the third rounders.

 

[BEaston]

Crows have lost their minds on this if they are seriously not accepting a pick less than mid-2nd rounder (or even worse, want 13 involved somehow).

A sample of players taken after 37:
Bailey Dale
Caleb Daniel
Oscar McDonald
Ed Langdon
Dougal Howard
Harris Andrews
Dan Butler
Jeremy Finlayson
Riley Bonner
Bailey Williams
Tom Phillips
Sam Menegola
Michael Hartley
Ben Jacobs
Mason Wood
Mark Hutchings
Rory Atkins
Sam Frost
Tom Jonas
Jack Crisp
Levi Casboult
Alex Pearce
Jay Kennedy Harris
Jake Kolodjashnij
Tom Barrass
Aliir Aliir
Ben Brown
Darcy Byrne-Jones
Orazio Fantasia
James Sicily
Jayden Hunt
John Ceglar
Tom Langdon
Sam Lloyd
Karl Amon

Sure picks at this level aren't rolled gold but it's not like the draft ends at 30 every year like some Crows fans seem to be suggesting. Lots of decent players have come from later rounds each year.

If 2 thirds are on offer it's two bites at the cherry also. Crows rebuilding, exactly what they should be looking at. Rather than letting a player walk to the PSD.