Another SANFL Coup Attempt

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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/sanfl-plotting-another-port-takeover/story-e6freco3-1226114997535

Six weeks after chief executive Mark Haysman became a victim of the ugly politics of SA football, club president Brett Duncanson is now in the SANFL's gun.

The league has – well before any vote of the club's membership at December's annual meeting – chosen Duncanson's successor. It is 1975 Magarey Medallist and former Port Adelaide Magpies defender Peter Woite, a long-standing SANFL servant.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/sanfl-plotting-another-port-takeover/story-e6freco3-1226114997535
 
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I'm not sure how SANFL aligned Woite is ? Does anyone know where his heart lies ?

When it comes down to it, has the club become a better place under Duncanson's leadership ? How much did the Choco resigning cost the club - both is money, public perception, development etc ... because as late as this season he has said it was the right move .... I'm sorry - but the right move doesn't cost you 600K+ less than a year later.

I'm not liking his less than honest approach to the media over the past 18 months, I don't think he's done himself or the club any favours.

My preference is for a higher profile very Port aligned figurehead ... but in saying that I think Duncansons race is run.
 
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the adelaide power?

GTFO!

where is tim ginever? we need to get this shit sorted and **** the sanfl off. once they control our board (which they already do but will moreso when thomas and other cronies come in) then they will be the ones controlling our itendity and negotiating our new stadium deal

we all know the SNAFL thinks these AFL teams are purely an investment, if they are the ones controlling us then we can farwell any ideas we ever had about doing whats best for us. If the people in control dont want whats best for the club then we are well and truly ****ed

we need to fix this!
 

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As above...

1) Woite might work. We need to retain a connection to our history and creed. IMO we've lost that in recent years more within the club and administration rather than on the playing field. We need a ruthless administration not affraid to make the tough calls (either against others or personally) in order to put the PAFC 1st. Not sure on Woite's exploits and viewpoints on the SANFL.

2) Adelaide Power... GTFO. Yep, no way know this will work. Like it or not the SANFL have to realise PAFC is a club... a CLUB:

"a group of persons organized for a social, literary, athletic, political, or other purpose: They organized a computer club."

Ultimately, if they're going to seize control and rebrand it without the members support the existing members wont support it. The SANfL would only further confuse people after the initially FU with the PAMFC clause, all the work to clear up that confusion with OneClub, and then to rebrand it as the Adelaide Power.

We have 36,000 members... why does "Port Adelaide" have to be branded a "bad" thing. The brand that IS bad in SA is the SANFL... every football follower in Australia knows the SANFL is a F'd up brand.
 
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the adelaide power?
Change our colours, change our nickname, change our home stadium. I've lived with those and if they changed again I'd still support the club.

No longer be Port Adelaide and I'm gone from supporting the AFL for good. And forever hate the SANFL (well even more) for denying me the chance to have my boys follow Port through life as I have.
 
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If this happens, and we become the Adelaide Power or any other bullshit re-badging of a 141 yr old club, that's it for me. Will not support AFL anymore, or SANFL, and will search out and destroy Leigh Whicker and any other parasites at the SANFL (99% of them) for totally ****ing up something special and unique. And I will never follow football again.
 
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If this happens, and we become the Adelaide Power or any other bullshit re-badging of a 141 yr old club, that's it for me.

Pretty much. Seeya later AFL for me.
 
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Lol.

Adelaide Power? I can't think of anything that would achieve other than sending me to more Port Magpies games at the SANFL.

I'd probably find an other AFL club to support though, as protest to the SANFL. What's the furtherest club away from here? Brisbane? That will do.
 
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I think Andrew D understands what is at stake and its more than his TV rights KPIs.

Its about how his legacy to the game will be seen. Does he want to be remembered as the guy who drove expansion to its maximum yet set in train events that led to the sport's ultimate decline.

10,000+ signatures to Andrew Demetriou reminding him that major Crows supporters also profit from being on the boards of Adelaide United and a certain pissant SANFL club, that should get the message across. If Port was "given up" by the AFL, if their lawyers look at what was written 20 years ago and say "you know it would be cheaper to setup and underwrite Dubbo Power using the Geelong model than to negotiate with the SANFL", well Adelaide United would in short order become the first soccer team to have equal billing with a state's AFL side, and the AFL is on its way to losing a heartland state.
 
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Very dramatic by Rucci. He's looking for a response and he'll probably get it. 36,000 members of the PAFC and the SANFL want to rebrand the club to achieve what? Get more people to AAMI stadium? Really? Is this their way of blaming the PAFC for supporters not going to their shit hole stadium that's got the Crows facilities attached to it? FFS wake up. Rebrand the club, lose 20,000 members to appeal to what, an extra 10,000 potential members that may not exist? The SANFL and the SAFC can go **** themselves. w***ers.
 
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Very dramatic by Rucci. He's looking for a response and he'll probably get it. 36,000 members of the PAFC and the SANFL want to rebrand the club to achieve what? Get more people to AAMI stadium? Really? Is this their way of blaming the PAFC for supporters not going to their shit hole stadium that's got the Crows facilities attached to it? FFS wake up. Rebrand the club, lose 20,000 members to appeal to what, an extra 10,000 potential members that may not exist? The SANFL and the SAFC can go **** themselves. w***ers.


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This really is starting to feel like death by a thousand cuts. And the insipid on-field performances by a playing group that likes to tell us how committed they are to the club and coach has left us wide open to this treatment.

Just on Peter Woite, he may be a long-standing SANFL employee but he is a hard-nosed commissioned police officer and Port Adelaide champion and Magarey Medallist. I doubt he would be easily told what to do by anyone.
 
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I'm not sure how SANFL aligned Woite is ? Does anyone know where his heart lies ?

I know that he's been highly critical of the club for several years, more on the running of it than any on field issues we've had.

I don't know for sure, but I'd find it very hard to believe that he'd be a SANFL stooge. Then again, perhaps he's their 'Trojan Horse'?

The Adelaide Power thing is ridiculous. Surely even the SA Football Commission can see this. My guess (hope) is Rucci is trolling.

As soon as they change this club to be anything other than Port, I'm lost to AFL.
 
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I think this is one reason why the team is playing poorly.

They do not know whether they have a job next year. Forget all the rhetoric from AFL and SANFL, when it comes to grassroots the workers do not trust management. Since Haysman left there is nothing left for the players to trust.

If anyone has gone through retrenchment and has agreements in place they will know that these can be easily broken and management has all the cards, workers do not care anymore.

If this story is true then I think it is safe to say the men in charge of footy in SA and schoolyard bullies who cannot cope with a bigger bully and do not like being beaten like they were with Adelaide Oval. Since that decision the knives are out.

There are only a certain number of people in SA who follow footy, 30% follow Port Adelaide. If there is no Port Adelaide then most of those people will be lost.

The SANFL should look to what happened to Fitzroy supporters where are they all now, they did not jump on Brisbane.

The Port Adelaide board has stuffed up but I am starting to wonder how many decisions were made to keep the SANFL happy.

Actually on reflection I think I would like the SANFL to take over. More money for me, more time on a weekend and I could very easily give up AFL football.
 
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Im sure the Adelaide Power part is just Rucci over dramatising the situation. The AFL wouldnt allow it and the Crows would take the SANFL & the AFL to court over it.
 
A) this is what I keep going on about with Brand Damaging media.
B) Adelaide Power, I see where Rucci is going and if the SANFL wants to try and go down this path their change would be subtle and very slow to avoid losing 30,000 PAFC members
C) I claimed Foley first Rucci :)
D) Back to the consititional change from 2008. I must say I never recalled reading much on it tbh how did this slip through? Or didn't it and I just missed it?
 
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Im sure the Adelaide Power part is just Rucci over dramatising the situation. The AFL wouldnt allow it and the Crows would take the SANFL & the AFL to court over it.

That's exactly what it is. Rucci's been banging on about this Adelaide Power nonsense for weeks. It is purely speculation on his part and nothing more. While I have little doubt there's certain people within SA football who'd love to see this happen, it won't.

Interesting to note that Vlad was talking up our proud heritage again recently. The AFL wanted Port Adelaide and they'll make sure we stay Port Adelaide. That said we all must remain forever vigilant and ensure the SANFL stooges are kept at bay and protect the Port Adelaide brand from any further erosion.
 
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If they ever went to 'Adelaide Power' Id like to see them change the Power also. as i wouldnt want to see them running around in anything resembeling Port Adelaide Power..

Even with just the Port name dropped the Power would be dead to me
 
FishingRick04;21929171.........D) Back to the consititional change from 2008. I must say I never recalled reading much on it tbh how did this slip through? Or didn't it and I just missed it?[/QUOTE said:
Yep I don't know what Rucci is banging on about.

I wasn't living in Adelaide in 2008, so I didn't go to the AGM, but I can't remember being asked to vote by proxy on any constitutional change. To change a constitution it would be more than just a motion at an AGM, proxies would have been issued. I will check my 2008 AGM notice tonight.

Rucci goes on about how it handed over power to the SANFL, but will never say what that change was and how different it was. As far as I'm aware there was no material extra powers given to the SANFL.

The constitutional change I am aware of was the the one changing the structure of the board from 5 SANFL apointees + 5 member elected to 4 + 4 + 2 specialists who could be appointed by the board and approved by the SANFL. And the changes resulting from the Magpies merger.

Rucci never sets out the before and after position just dramatises how big a change was at the 2008 AGM.
 
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Adelaide Murray Magpies, just to annoy Collingwood. But this can't happen unti lthe Crows and at 125% capacity :)
 
Yep I don't know what Rucci is banging on about.

I wasn't living in Adelaide in 2008, so I didn't go to the AGM, but I can't remember being asked to vote by proxy on any constitutional change. To change a constitution it would be more than just a motion at an AGM, proxies would have been issued. I will check my 2008 AGM notice tonight.

Rucci goes on about how it handed over power to the SANFL, but will never say what that change was and how different it was. As far as I'm aware there was no material extra powers given to the SANFL.

The constitutional change I am aware of was the the one changing the structure of the board from 5 SANFL apointees + 5 member elected to 4 + 4 + 2 specialists who could be appointed by the board and approved by the SANFL. And the changes resulting from the Magpies merger.

Rucci never sets out the before and after position just dramatises how big a change was at the 2008 AGM.
I pointed this out knowing you would come in, because suprisingly I thought you would have been all over this change if it was to happen.

I too never received any proxy votes or anything back then? I find it very confusing, it's like Rucci is trying to bash us as a supporter base too.
 
Yep I don't know what Rucci is banging on about.

I wasn't living in Adelaide in 2008, so I didn't go to the AGM, but I can't remember being asked to vote by proxy on any constitutional change. To change a constitution it would be more than just a motion at an AGM, proxies would have been issued. I will check my 2008 AGM notice tonight.

Rucci goes on about how it handed over power to the SANFL, but will never say what that change was and how different it was. As far as I'm aware there was no material extra powers given to the SANFL.

The constitutional change I am aware of was the the one changing the structure of the board from 5 SANFL apointees + 5 member elected to 4 + 4 + 2 specialists who could be appointed by the board and approved by the SANFL. And the changes resulting from the Magpies merger.

Rucci never sets out the before and after position just dramatises how big a change was at the 2008 AGM.

nivek_48 has posted this in another thread - this is what Rucci has written previously:

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They should ask why the Port Adelaide Football Club constitution was changed in 2008.

They should ask why the PAFC consitition in clause 4.9 now reads: "a `member' means a person who is a director of the company and whose name is entered as a member of the company ..."

They should consider clause 9.4 that declares they "have a right to vote in relation to the election of club NOMINEES for appointment by the league commission to the board." Sounds like the Adelaide Football Club.

They should read clauses 11 - such as 11.1 that says "the directors of the company shall be such persons as shall be appointed by time to time by the league commission and the league commission may likewise remove any director at any time."

And 11.7 that says "the league commission may in its absolute discretion decline to appoint a club nominee as a director. In that event the club membership is entitled to nominate a replacement person for appointment by the league commission as a director."

As one constitutional lawyer retained by The Rip said: "The club that once belonged to the members is now controlled by the SA Football Commission."
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