Game Day Anzac Day: Rd 6 Collingwood v Essendon, MCG, 25 April, 3.20pm

[Jen2310]

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How much you bidding Jen?

I've just bought myself a guernsey lol

 

[neilk]

How did you get this info? I haven't received anything from AFL re this.

Such a pain as my experiences with ticketek are not positive.

This link was in the email I received about match day information for tonight's game:

Parking information

Parking information in Yarra Park for MCG events.

www.mcg.org.au

 

[Markfs]

You can always try parking on the Yarra.....but avoid it if it rains

 

[Markfs]

I like the theatre of it, and I love the Anzac day vibe at the ground. Anzac day matches are some of my favourites. Sends shivers down the spine. Really moving. The night game tonight will be the same.

But I find the nationalism attached to it all a bit much -- I mean, Gallipoli, what were they there for again exactly? Defending "our freedom" against the.... uh, Turks? I mean, I support the poor bastards who were drafted into the army to go defend the British Empire -- my Great Grandfather was there and came back traumatised and my Grandfather was in WW2 -- but I don't support the cause itself. Same as in Vietnam. Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan. Support the troops not the policy.

So, love listening to the last post, don't mind it being played at all games, just wish there was a bit more balance to the story -- then it would be really really awesome.

The draft was only used in WW2 for aussies in the forces that stayed home, not overseas. Before that no draft. After WW2, only vietnam. However, I had a grandfather who actually landed on gallipoli on that fateful day and he volunteered a week after the war started....and wrote letters back about the uselessness of it. He never marched but used to go to anzac days to meet old mates and have a drink. He came back from the war and had problems working but the gov't refused him a pension. The gov't struck a medal before WW2 for those that served in WW1 to rev up the public, but he refused to pick it up. My grandmother had to do it. I remember him as a quiet bloke who used to go and work in the garden when we were visiting. My father said he never spoke about the war.

 

[Vic Park]

I wouldn't count on it being until 6:30pm-ish tonight

About right maybe. Still no team selection announcement for the
Melbourne v Richmond game and first bounce is less than 3 hours! Presumably the players have been informed so why is the AFL/clubs not informing the fans?



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[TheVillageIdiot7]

About right maybe. Still no team selection announcement for the
Melbourne v Richmond game and first bounce is less than 3 hours! Presumably the players have been informed so why is the AFL/clubs not informing the fans?



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I heard that the tigers v Melbourne teams are out tonight at 10:30pm.
Pies v dons due out at 6:30pm tomorrow.

 

[Vic Park]

About right maybe. Still no team selection announcement for the
Melbourne v Richmond game and first bounce is less than 3 hours! Presumably the players have been informed so why is the AFL/clubs not informing the fans?



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I stand corrected. Team selection for this evening’s game has be posted on AFL app.


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[caloschwaby]

I've just bought myself a guernsey lol

Is it only available at the AIA? Can't find it online

 

[TheGreatSwan]

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

When can you start Parking at the G Tommorow?

Are you going to drive your Barina in? You're game Dave! Not something I would do a couple of days after getting my P's given the sell out crowd.

 

[Mongo Ming]

My Dad served as a Leftenant in Borneo crossing into Indo with legit headhunters as trackers with his platoon. He literally was only able to talk about it with me last year as there was a 50year embargo of silence as it was a top secret mission sanctioned by ASIO (100% true). His unit as it turns out ended up being the blueprint for SAS training. His best mate was re-drafted on the day he was to go home and died within hours of landing in Vietnam.

I wondered why I could never get him to talk about the war. I know he got PTSD and he cried when he could finally talk about it. My Dad never cries. He came back a changed man. My parents divorced and he ended up an alcoholic (now nearly 30 years clean .. go Dad!).

He doesn’t observe Anzac Day saying that a lot of the people that attend the marches etc were cooks and mechanics etc and never saw action. A lot that did want no part in remembering it.

He’s a one eyed Pies fan and some of my earliest memories are shoulder rides to Vic Park to watch the Woods together.

I still observe the minute’s silence for those that remain silent. But think it’s time to move on from “celebrating” Gallipoli. It’s a conflict over 100 years old with no remaining diggers alive. IMO more focus needs to be on soldiers from WW2, Afghanistan and Vietnam etc that don’t get much of a voice.

War is shit. War is pointless. Violence is never the answer.

Sorry for the overshare. Just an interesting story on the eve of an interesting day.

Go Pies. Do it for Dad.

 

[Doc1763]

wonderful memories!!!

 

[Finnishpie]

The draft was only used in WW2 for aussies in the forces that stayed home, not overseas. Before that no draft. After WW2, only vietnam. However, I had a grandfather who actually landed on gallipoli on that fateful day and he volunteered a week after the war started....and wrote letters back about the uselessness of it. He never marched but used to go to anzac days to meet old mates and have a drink. He came back from the war and had problems working but the gov't refused him a pension. The gov't struck a medal before WW2 for those that served in WW1 to rev up the public, but he refused to pick it up. My grandmother had to do it. I remember him as a quiet bloke who used to go and work in the garden when we were visiting. My father said he never spoke about the war.

Yep, you’re right. My bad. There was an attempt to introduce draft in WW1 though and I think a massive anti-war movement.

 

[Finnishpie]

It's only Vietnam where people were drafted. But otherwise think your sentiments are spot on.

You’re right - apologies - there was an attempt to introduce the draft in WW1 and it was defeated. Thanks for the correction. Silly me.

 

[Finnishpie]

To be fair, there is nothing more quintessentially Australian than invading a country that posed absolutely no threat to us at the behest of our successive British and American colonial overlords.

So we may well as get into the Anzac spirit by drinking 27 beers, getting Southern Cross tattoos on our buttocks and hurling racist abuse at Chinese tourists.

 

[Finnishpie]

War, I despise
'Cause it means destruction of innocent lives
War means tears to thousands of mother's eyes
When their sons go off to fight
And lose their lives
I said, war, huh (good God, y'all)
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, just say it again
War (whoa), huh (oh Lord)
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me
It ain't nothing but a heart-breaker
(War) Friend only to The Undertaker
Oh, war it's an enemy to all mankind
The thought of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest
Within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die?

Dulce et Decorum Est​

BY WILFRED OWEN

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Dulce et Decorum Est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs, And towards our distant rest began to trudge.

www.poetryfoundation.org

 

[Finnishpie]

I've just bought myself a guernsey lol

I want to get a new guernsey soon.

Think I want number 23 or …. 35.

 

[anshell]

Still no teams less than a day out from the game.I can’t recall that happening before.Did they end up naming teams for tonight’s match between Melbourne and Richmond?

 

[Markfs]

Yep, you’re right. My bad. There was an attempt to introduce draft in WW1 though and I think a massive anti-war movement.

It's ok. My grandfather fought for your right to say whatever you like....not that he knew it at the time..

 

[Fat Jesus]

It's ok. My grandfather fought for your right to say whatever you like....not that he knew it at the time..

Both my grandfathers fought in the war. One was a natural born killer and so was my grandmother (his wife) The other successfully did his best to avoid killing anyone.

Nazi occupation in Europe

 

[sr36]

It's ok. My grandfather fought for your right to say whatever you like....not that he knew it at the time..

The WW1 Germans we'rent particularly censorous. He really fought to ensure a few colonies remained British colonies for another 40 years.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

Ins: JDG, Kreuger, Ruscoe

 

[Finnishpie]

It's ok. My grandfather fought for your right to say whatever you like....not that he knew it at the time..

And mine fight for your grandfather’s right to fight for my right to be wrong.

which is a bit embarrassing for me .…

 

[Lifelong Pie]

Essendon don't have great or many tall forwards, hopefully we can get by with Moore and Ruscoe for a bit of support, leave frampton in the ruck

 

[hellfire]