Training Apples' & Jen's Training Thread 2021 (Latest report #3590)

[Mick F]

Agree on the set shot. As for his marking, I’ve not noticed this as an issue. He’s not a leaping player but as a full time mid, that’s not his role. He catches it fine.

He’s 191

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Pendles is not a crap mark. In the general field of play, where he is usually stationed, or in transition, he is very good with safe hands.
He isn't the other players mentioned.
He isn't a forward and never has been.
He is a legend and pure silk at what he does.
Over 300 games and counting.
At least 85% of them are in the bank as best players on the day (my opinion without research)
Geez
Give it a rest

 

[max mason]

A little bit of perspective. Pendles greatest 2 flaws have been his aerial contest and converting set shots from the left hand side. He slices and misses to the near side quite often. His over head aerial is simply terrible but very rarely is it required and elite traits more than compensate. Also worth noting that when his time is up as an inside mid there won’t be a forward or defender role he can slot back into. Simply can’t play those roles. Still playing great footy but the end isn’t that far away. Absolute legend of the game and he has had an amazing career! I have loved watching him for the last 15 years.

 

[ClaytonM]

Pendles is not a crap mark. In the general field of play, where he is usually stationed, or in transition, he is very good with safe hands.
He isn't the other players mentioned.
He isn't a forward and never has been.
He is a legend and pure silk at what he does.
Over 300 games and counting.
At least 85% of them are in the bank as best players on the day (my opinion without research)
Geez
Give it a rest

No player is perfect. It is possible to both acknowledge his weaknesses and the fact he has been an obsolete gun. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[jmac70]

A little bit of perspective. Pendles greatest 2 flaws have been his aerial contest and converting set shots from the left hand side. He slices and misses to the near side quite often. His over head aerial is simply terrible but very rarely is it required and elite traits more than compensate. Also worth noting that when his time is up as an inside mid there won’t be a forward or defender role he can slot back into. Simply can’t play those roles. Still playing great footy but the end isn’t that far away. Absolute legend of the game and he has had an amazing career! I have loved watching him for the last 15 years.

He’s got at least two seasons left, maybe more.

 

[jonmacTrag]

No player is perfect. It is possible to both acknowledge his weaknesses and the fact he has been an obsolete gun. They are not mutually exclusive.

Acknowledge yes as you have done but not harp on it as others have, some people find a loose thread in their new sweater and they simply can't resist picking at it until the entire sweater is unraveled.

 

[jonmacTrag]

He’s got at least two seasons left, maybe more.

Pendlebury doesn't rely on either speed or leap which are the two athletic attributes to fade first with advancing footy years.

 

[SchuPie]

Howe doing agility work today: side-to-side / change of direction
Then gather / kick to trainers
Building nicely

 

[partypie]

In another video Pendles also misses a simple mark, so what does that mean? To me it means that everyone that plays AFL makes mistakes, its all part of a game that is played with an oval ball, at frenetic pace, that is played under fatigue and extreme pressure. Watch Rugby players drop a pass or soccer players miss penalties or NFL players throw a bad pass, so what, get over it.

Nope it means Pendles is totally cooked and should be shipped off to the farm post haste.

Hack player who is totally past it, delist immediately and with extreme prejudice.

 

[SchuPie]

Match sim
Some interesting match ups in the middle
Black: Pendles / JDG / Sidey / Adams / Grundy
Blue: Macrae / Bear / Magden / Reef / Cameron

 

[Apex36]

Acknowledge yes as you have done but not harp on it as others have, some people find a loose thread in their new sweater and they simply can't resist picking at it until the entire sweater is unraveled.

Literally nobody has harped on about it. The only reason the conversation has got this far is because you jumped in and started having a go at sr36 for daring to point out Pendles’ flaws.

 

[Apex36]

Match sim
Some interesting match ups in the middle
Black: Pendles / JDG / Sidey / Adams / Grundy
Blue: Macrae / Bear / Magden / Reef / Cameron

Interesting to see Madge in there. Sounds as if the club knows he needs to find a new position with Howe returning and Murphy in the wings if he doesn’t want to become perennial depth.

 

[SchuPie]

Interesting to see Madge in there. Sounds as if the club knows he needs to find a new position with Howe returning and Murphy in the wings if he doesn’t want to become perennial depth.

Might be, Apex
I think they also like a bit of crash-and-bash against Adams / Jordy

 

[SchuPie]

McMahon, even if he doesn’t touch it again today, has shown great traits - hoping we’ve found one here
- smart / strong / fast lead against Moore for mark + goal
- lead up pack mark
- front position to help out on the ground at CHF

Edit: I love this type of forward rather than the ones that constantly call for it over the back...already seen it a couple times today w other forwards and it has made it so much easier for defenders

 

[Johno9911]

Interesting to see Madge in there. Sounds as if the club knows he needs to find a new position with Howe returning and Murphy in the wings if he doesn’t want to become perennial depth.

From memory he had a bit of a run through there in the pre-season games last year. Recall seeing him at a couple of center bounces and contests around the ground.

Doubt it means to much, but I'm glad to see they're at least willing to try a couple of different things. In saying that he's a good size and a strong athlete, so could be something there. We're crying out for another bid body in there so if Bear doesn't get going we may need to look for an alternative.

 

[SchuPie]

Blue: Poulter / Macrae/ Reef/ Cal
Black: Sidey/ Adams/ Rantall/ Bianc

 

[well left]

McMahon, even if he doesn’t touch it again today, has shown great traits - hoping we’ve found one here
- smart / strong / fast lead against Moore for mark + goal
- lead up pack mark
- front position to help out on the ground at CHF

Edit: I love this type of forward rather than the ones that constantly call for it over the back...already seen it a couple times today w other forwards and it has made it so much easier for defenders

Might just be some January match sim but a first year draftee KPF leading and marking against AA CHB is an encouraging sign.

As you said may not do much else and Darce may give him a hiding but glimpses like that is all you want to see from kids like that.


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[pies 4 ever]

Might just be some January match sim but a first year draftee KPF leading and marking against AA CHB is an encouraging sign.
As you said may not do much else and Darce may give him a hiding but glimpses like that is all you want to see from kids like that.
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Have watched him several times and the best thing is that he appears to be an intelligent footballer, in that he understands that he is not as strong as senior players, so keeps moving and leading. That and the fact that he marks it at its highest point, often on a strong lead, makes me think that he will make it. Could even get a game or two this year as a third tall or on a wing but only if we learn to play with fast movement to an open forward line.

 

[Apex36]

Might just be some January match sim but a first year draftee KPF leading and marking against AA CHB is an encouraging sign.

As you said may not do much else and Darce may give him a hiding but glimpses like that is all you want to see from kids like that.


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Hoping and praying we’ve picked up the Vic tall forward who would have rocketed up the board without COVID happening.

 

[Jen2310]

Keane hurt his finger in match sim. After training I was on my way home when I saw him and a doctor? Trainer? Go to get scans


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[jmac70]

Hoping and praying we’ve picked up the Vic tall forward who would have rocketed up the board without COVID happening.

That would be very sweet indeed.

 

[Jelly Bean]

A little bit of perspective. Pendles greatest 2 flaws have been his aerial contest and converting set shots from the left hand side. He slices and misses to the near side quite often. His over head aerial is simply terrible but very rarely is it required and elite traits more than compensate. Also worth noting that when his time is up as an inside mid there won’t be a forward or defender role he can slot back into. Simply can’t play those roles. Still playing great footy but the end isn’t that far away. Absolute legend of the game and he has had an amazing career! I have loved watching him for the last 15 years.

I thought he looked good at times at half back - getting the ball in traffic in defence and spotting up the right option forward in the middle third of the ground was a really refreshing feature

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

What's the point of the tennis balls?

Perhaps the club wants to rack up some early injuries like rolled ankles, twisted knees or ACL/PCLs. A tennis ball underfoot could easily cause a foot or leg injury.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

SR some balance please with your remarks, as PE has indicated silk is silk.

Every time you think of Penders less than immense marking prowess watch a replay of the '10 GF replay - that pass to a running Sidearse with barely a flick of a glance, allowing Sidey to run on to it is CLASS - pure, unadulterated class - and that is far from the best he has produced.

Still doesn't make him a powerful marker and that's what the discussion was about. I think anyone who has watched him play knows his skills in other areas, so there is hardly any need to balance a mildly negative observation with positive references to his obvious strengths.

 

[well left]

Have watched him several times and the best thing is that he appears to be an intelligent footballer, in that he understands that he is not as strong as senior players, so keeps moving and leading. That and the fact that he marks it at its highest point, often on a strong lead, makes me think that he will make it. Could even get a game or two this year as a third tall or on a wing but only if we learn to play with fast movement to an open forward line.

In my mind these guys are sometimes more likely to make it compared to the Patton types that monstered junior defenders as they learn multiple ways to win the footy whilst they develop their bodies.


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