Are Essendon capable of addressing their issues?

[Turnover]

Lol, person has very reasonable analysis and you attack their club not the content because you've got nothing.

Essendon might be a joke right now, but it'll continue to be with supporters like you.

You highly overate supporters influence on a club. ****ing laughable.

 

[Turnover]

So every dickhead with some cash and an opinion gets a say?

And they all love Ades.

Absolute sh*t show uve got there.

Saved the club. Saved. Logic doesn’t come easy for you.

 

[Nick Daffy 10]

Shiel probably suggested that some of the older players they should pull their finger out, which didn't go down well.

The Essendon faithful seem to put up a lot of resistance to anyone at their club who isn't a Essendon person. Knights & Worsfold didnt get much support in their time and can already start to see the heat turn on Rutten.

 

[Turnover]

Shiel probably suggested that some of the older players they should pull their finger out, which didn't go down well.

The Essendon faithful seem to put up a lot of resistance to anyone at their club who isn't a Essendon person. Knights & Worsfold didnt get much support in their time and can already start to see the heat turn on Rutten.

Spot on I’d say.

 

[Rich]

Not sure why Casboult has ended up being dragged into this thread, all clubs need battlers like him to improve on their game and get the best out of themselves.

Essendon has just had Shaun McKernan play 53 games for them, not every player can be a superstar.

 

[Milanista28]

Club believes we are on the right track to sustained success, so no I doubt we are capable.

 

[branedotorg]

All clubs go through tough times but I feel Carlton is an example of what Essendon can expect.

The Blues were a proud and successful club up until the mid 90s. They struggled to move on from paper bags and eventually caught and penalised. Instead of pulling together the club pulled itself apart, with the off field impacting the onfield. 25 years later, the blues are just starting to emerge again but the Hawks, Pies and Tigers have raced away from a business perspective and supporter base.

The only question for the dons post drug saga, post penalties and now inhouse fighting, is how quickly does it pull together again. Fingers crossed they turn things around soon.

not gonna lie, i was with you until the last sentence

 

[RudyBlue]

Shiel probably suggested that some of the older players they should pull their finger out, which didn't go down well.

The Essendon faithful seem to put up a lot of resistance to anyone at their club who isn't a Essendon person. Knights & Worsfold didnt get much support in their time and can already start to see the heat turn on Rutten.

Essendon the last club to fully embrace modernity.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Levi just can’t play, it’s simple. How he has forged a career is incredible.

Yep, this is typical Essendon. A Carlton poster writes a very good insightful post addressing the thread title and Bomber fans turn it into an attack on the poster.

Let's just ignore the problems here at Bomberland by posturing tough and attacking others. Looking forward to seeing the Dodo in action on Saad, starting point will be Cripps and pick 7! Then we've got Daniher's trade still to come.

Problems at Essendon are entrenched and toxic, can't draft well and no longer a viable club to get traded to. 6000 days of wilderness to continue for a long time.

I'll be waiting for Bomber fans to attack me and my club now rather than addressing their own toxicity!

 

[ash_1050]

Unfortunately doesn't look to be the case. Plenty of existing issues of trading for non A grade players, recruiting poorly (2018 onwards exempt) and a lack of cohesion in the game plan. Also Rutten may be great tactically (which is still unproven), however he's lacking the ability to build rapport with players and make them want to be a part of the team. Not giving Bellchambers a farewell game when we were out of finals contention is pretty poor form for a bloke that gave his all for the club, including during the darkest periods of the last decade.

The number of players who want out, or have been linked to wanting out (Saad, Joey, Fantasia, Hooker, Hurley) is indicative of a club that's not running well internally. What we need is to be less results orientated and instead focus more on enjoying the game, gelling as a club and playing good footy. Build an environment where players feel supported, welcome, valued and appreciated. Swing the axe on Dodo, Xavier Campbell and whoever else should have been cleaned out a long time ago. Do this and the results will sort themselves out.

 

[The Warlord]

Unfortunately doesn't look to be the case. Plenty of existing issues of trading for non A grade players, recruiting poorly (2018 onwards exempt) and a lack of cohesion in the game plan. Also Rutten may be great tactically (which is still unproven), however he's lacking the ability to build rapport with players and make them want to be a part of the team. Not giving Bellchambers a farewell game when we were out of finals contention is pretty poor form for a bloke that gave his all for the club, including during the darkest periods of the last decade.

The number of players who want out, or have been linked to wanting out (Saad, Joey, Fantasia, Hooker, Hurley) is indicative of a club that's not running well internally. What we need is to be less results orientated and instead focus more on enjoying the game, gelling as a club and playing good footy. Build an environment where players feel supported, welcome, valued and appreciated. Swing the axe on Dodo, Xavier Campbell and whoever else should have been cleaned out a long time ago. Do this and the results will sort themselves out.

Great post. Thanks l!

 

[Oscarman]

Essendon the last club to fully embrace modernity.

Probably the most insular club in the league. Still got the 'our shit doesn't stink' attitude too. Having so many fluffers in the media does not help either.

 

[WillHayward]

“Do you feel in charge?”

“I’ve paid you a small fortune...”

“And this gives you, power, over me?”

In all seriousness though this is the right direction for the club. Pay your debts morally if it not financially and remain beholden to the coeteries. They ultimately are the ones that know best, because wealth is the biggest determining factor in sporting success. Some naysayers might point to the Steve Bollmer’s or Stan Kroenke’s or Dan Snyder’s or James Dolan’s of the world, but what would they know? And comparing AFL to US sports is disingenuous and unfair and irrelevant.

If we could replace Steve Hocking and Gil with wealthy coeteries tomorrow to run the AFL who says no? Exactly. So if it’s good enough for HQ it’s good enough for the all-time premiership leader.

Spot on.
Personally i think Gina Rinehart should run the AFL rules committee .

 

[WillHayward]

Ha ha. You got the rumour from big footy and base a club’s culture on that. Very stupid. sh*t show is watching will Hayward.

Plenty of evidence available beyond BigFooty.
Dodoro. Sheedy. That little small rich bloke who was President. What was his name ?
Paul Little?

 

[WillHayward]

Ha ha. You got the rumour from big footy and base a club’s culture on that. Very stupid. sh*t show is watching will Hayward.

Just as long as ur prepared for another decade of failure. Then stay the course. Dont change. Double down.

 

[SSSSSS]

If they couldn't get anywhere doped out to their eyeballs I'm sure they aren't going to get anywhere clean.

 

[The Warlord]

Daniher walks now.

Yet Dodo strutting around playing tough guy again with the full backing of Sheedy, who is now on the freaking board.

How do they get out of this mess?

Chuck money at Jeremy Cameron?

 

[citizen-erased]

Daniher walks now.

Yet Dodo strutting around playing tough guy again with the full backing of Sheedy, who is now on the freaking board.

How do they get out of this mess?

Chuck money at Jeremy Cameron?

Wright is probably a better fit
a) cheap, so he doesn't impact the rebuild
b) young. we aren't playing finals for another 3-4, so Jez would only come to us for a pay day.

 

[Dazb86]

Time to rebuild.

 

[Mikevk123]

Club is delusional so no chance it will happen.


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[JayJ20]

To address it, you have to acknowledge the problems first. I'm hoping that this failure enables us to finally see how incompetent we've been for so long.

No more shortcuts. No more instant gratification. Do it the right way and give Rutten the 7 years he needs to actually uproot the culture. Build the list around Parish, McGrath, Ridley and Langford and go from there.

 

[citizen-erased]

If after * happening, the club doesn't have a hard look at itself, what possibly could be the catalyst for that?

20k drop off in memberships this year.
another 15k+ might make them take note.

we're surely at independent external review stage now

 

[90N90S]

Looks like Daniher is off to Brisbane as well.

What the **** is happening at Essendon?

And calling Daniher a liar by some Essendon fans is a disgrace.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Toxic fanbase. Listen to yourself. We are hated. We are arrogant. We matter.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Good post. Carlton burned down the list and restarted.

Can Essendon do that though? Will their cotories wear it?

Carlton is still a wait and see if thier rebuild is successful imo.