Are Essendon the real deal?

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Hurley seems like he'll probably be a decent player but geeze the commentators love to gush about him. Every time the ball is in his vicinity he is being 'brilliant' or some other superlative, according to them.

The guy only took 3 marks, for god sake. How about waiting till he does kick a number of big bags before getting too carried away.

How about his appetite for the contest, skills on both sides of the body, the way he just smashes into packs without fear for a 3rd year KP player.

That's what the commentators are gushing about.
 
what about easy set shot misses :eek: , goals = Dons win the game, umpires are only human, everyone makes mistakes and if you or anyone else thinks otherwise, then maybe your dreaming, free kick counts mean shit all if you put your head over the footy and get the hard ball to EARN them

We kicked ourselves out of it for sure.. and Stantons run on was nowhere NEAR good enough given the context of the game.

Having said that, those couple of decisions gave the balance of power to the Swans in the end when in reality they were not the better side throughout the day.
 
Hardingham HTB was a blatant decision which cost Essendon the game. You're dreaming if you don't think they make a difference.

Really, Im still swathing at Leroy Jetta dropping down in a tackle to be rewarded with a bullshit high tackle to get a goal in the first term.

Decisions happen all over a match not just the last few minutes. As it weas Dons are going to be the real deal, they just need to be slightly bigger bodies to play the game plan Hird is preparing them for at a tilt at a flag in 12/13
 

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what about easy set shot misses :eek: , goals = Dons win the game, umpires are only human, everyone makes mistakes and if you or anyone else thinks otherwise, then maybe your dreaming, free kick counts mean shit all if you put your head over the footy and get the hard ball to EARN them

You're being a ********. If you can't see that the last goal that gave Sydney the lead was given to them by blatant error, even though replays show that Nicholls had perfect position, then you really don't know footy. Without that free kick then Sydney doesn't get a shot on goal, straight kicking is irrelevant without opportunities.
 
Really, Im still swathing at Leroy Jetta dropping down in a tackle to be rewarded with a bullshit high tackle to get a goal in the first term.

Decisions happen all over a match not just the last few minutes. As it weas Dons are going to be the real deal, they just need to be slightly bigger bodies to play the game plan Hird is preparing them for at a tilt at a flag in 12/13

Bit rich. Did you even watch Craig Bird today? He has mastered the Selwood duck and shrug. His head isn't as hard as Selwood's though so I can see Bird putting himself in danger of being KO'ed in the near future (seriously).
 
Bit rich. Did you even watch Craig Bird today? He has mastered the Selwood duck and shrug. His head isn't as hard as Selwood's though so I can see Bird putting himself in danger of being KO'ed in the near future (seriously).

You see, every free kick Sydney got was now a dodgy call, this story grows.

But your right, Craig Bird will get knocked out one day soon, because of the way he puts his head over the contested ball.
 
You see, every free kick Sydney got was now a dodgy call, this story grows.

But your right, Craig Bird will get knocked out one day soon, because of the way he puts his head over the contested ball.
Don't get me wrong, I like the way the kid goes about it but I think he could end up getting really hurt.

For what it is worth, I thought Sydney had the run of play but of course I am disappointed with the result. Watching the game, I didn't realise the free kick count was so lobsided but in general I thought the umpiring was deplorable (both ways).

I can't believe that anyone would think that the Hardingham decision was a free kick, but if we were a bit more experienced, it shouldn't have come down to that last kick. We made some bad errors which cost goals in the last half.
 
We kicked ourselves out of it for sure.. and Stantons run on was nowhere NEAR good enough given the context of the game.

You could say the same thing about Sydney.

Having said that, those couple of decisions gave the balance of power to the Swans in the end when in reality they were not the better side throughout the day.

We were when it counted and deserved the win. I wonder if Essendon will ever lose a game due to something other than bad umpiring.
 
There's another 20 games for us to make the 8, so far we have had one very good win against a top 4 side, and we have gone down in a thriller to a quality side that was 4 points away from making a prelim final in 2010. If you told me how we'd go in the first 5 games back in pre-season, I'd have said that we'd be lucky to win a game. We are 1-1, season isn't over yet, sure the umps f***ed up horribly today, but we have 20 games to make sure we make the finals. I've cooled off anyway since the game has finished and realised that the umps were only a small part to us losing, our inability to finish Sydney off was a big factor.
 
Don't think the umps were to blame at all today. Please fellow bomber fans let's maintain a bit of perspective. If we didn't get smashed in the centre clearances, if we matched Sydney in the midfield & inside 50's and if we had a dual brownlow medalist playing out of his skin amongst other things we probably would've won the game..

Although I'm dirty about not bringing home the points today, with all
mentioned above we still only managed to loose by less than a kick. The fact that we had one of the best Ruckmen in the league sitting out, along with one of the best developing full backs and a bit of x factor in gumby & reimers to come back into the team, I'd say we're in a pretty good place.

We're NOT the real deal YET,
 

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well seriously if your a passionate fan you see what you want to see, i thought we were getting killed by the umps during the game and i was with a few other swans fans screaming and cursing the same, if i was in your position i would of spit chips during the game.

End of the day if you are good enough to win you win the game, i know it sucks when you lose but thats the truth.

I just dont see how anyone can feel robbed if they honestly just watch the game there, unlikely there were that many mistakes, the one at the end what did mattner do? pretty much fell like an idiot, would be pretty dodgy to give stanton a shot from that.

Mind you then we would have a pile of swans fans sooking

it was a good game to watch, essendon will be winning the same type of game by about 50 points in 2015 and you wont even remember this game.
 
You could say the same thing about Sydney.



We were when it counted and deserved the win. I wonder if Essendon will ever lose a game due to something other than bad umpiring.

Nope.

It's simply not in the DNA of your average Bombout fan to accept defeat by the superior team.

Caned them in all stats except contested possies (148-150), but, just like last year "it wuz da umps fault" :rolleyes:
 
Can never understand supporters blaming umpires.

Its all swings and roundabouts. They'll be days when teams get a good run and other days when teams get a bad run.

The fact is if you're good enough, the umpires won't be a factor.

Essendon let a 25 point lead slip - can't blame umpires for that.
 
Nope.

It's simply not in the DNA of your average Bombout fan to accept defeat by the superior team.

Caned them in all stats except contested possies (148-150), but, just like last year "it wuz da umps fault" :rolleyes:

As a neutral supporter it looked like Essendon were in control of the game all the way up til midway through the 4th quarter. For the most part Essendon seemed to use the ball better and even though they didn't get into the 50 much when they did they were generally very effective with it. Swans were lucky to win that game.
 
Dont tell me ..Dons whinging and blaming umps again ? There's a shock.

When you have that many fans so desperately clinging to hopes and dreams of once again being a force...it takes a bit to get back in contact with reality.

We were the reality yesterday...and nothing surer than whenever the Dons lose they will blame something or someone. Its in their nature to whinge.

Dons dont look much different to last year...they need to win next week or Hirds record is worse than Knights yeah ??? There's some more reality for you.
 
btw..Dons just got lucky Goodes was off his game a bit. Its early and he builds a season.
Normally when he has that much ball in that much space its all over.
Much more than he normally gets to make the difference.
Butchered opportunities he normally wouldnt.
 
Didn't watch the game, just keeping an eye on the iPhone app, and it was intense just watching it that way.

But yeah couldn't judge the umprigin obviously, but from the sounds of it, Essendon getting multiple goals from the umps sounds about right.

Half their score in the NAB Cup GF were a direct result of umpire intervention. Literally half. 7 out of 13 goals to be exact, so just over.

But it seemed like Essendon were in control for most of the day barring the last part of the 3rd quarter and most of the last.
 
Losses like that hurt, especially being outnumbered two years in a row with both being narrow losses.
Real issue - ran out of legs, simple.

Hille would have helped. Don't think the very heavy turf helped us, their guys coped a lot better with it.
Umpires didn't help. Still, we were struggling through the last which was about 95% of the issue. Spurned too many chances, slot one more of our entries we probably could've held on.

****ing hurts when the last goal's a bodgy free but it was a 1 on 3, they were probably gunna end up with the ball anyway.
 
End of the day if you are good enough to win you win the game, i know it sucks when you lose but thats the truth.

I just dont see how anyone can feel robbed if they honestly just watch the game there, unlikely there were that many mistakes, the one at the end what did mattner do? pretty much fell like an idiot, would be pretty dodgy to give stanton a shot from that.

Mind you then we would have a pile of swans fans sooking
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Yep straight into his back.. but at the end of the day as Stanton said into todays Herald Sun thats footy (he was more talking about the dodgy bounce just before this incident - but its just as applicable ) You could go back through the game and pick a bunch of dodgy frees or free missed. If Essendon had won Sydney fans might have been pointing to the Hardingham or Davey spoils which could easliy have been free kicks. It comes down to your first comment. If your good enough the free kicks don't matter.
 

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