To get the Premier's Award you have to be top 5 in the state for that subject, so for Lit I'd assume that would mean a study score of 50. Very hard to get.
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ThePuppetMaster
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If you do brilliantly on the exam your SAC marks will increase, but a lot depends on your ranking in your cohort.
That said, if your cohort is excellent that holds you in good stead.
That said, if your cohort is excellent that holds you in good stead.
I thought the Premiers award was based on the exam, rather than your study score? Because you might do the best on the exam in the state, but not be the best in your cohort on SAC's meaning you wouldn't get a study score of 50?
You could be right. I'm no expert on the subject.
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There are probably four kids capable of 'beating' me in standard 3A/3B English (should've done lit.. but I had some 'teacher issues'). Basically, i'm average in my three other tertiary subjects. I should get around 85 in English, 60 in economics, 60 in history, and 70 in philosophy - could this get me an ATAR of 80.00?
ThePuppetMaster
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If you are good at English there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't do just as well in History or Philosophy.
i think the Premier's award is based on exams yeah, my friend got one for legal studies when she was in year 11, huge achievement
got to be thankful for SACs last year, in comparison my exams weren't as good but due to high scores from SACs i got some good results
got to be thankful for SACs last year, in comparison my exams weren't as good but due to high scores from SACs i got some good results
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There's a big difference between History and English, I was pretty good at both, but structures are completely different if you're writing correctly and it's just not that clear cut. Not sure about philosophy though.
Agree, people saying "just concentrate on exams, you'll be fine...SACs are nothing" seem to forget that SACs are the saving grace, not the other way around. SACs are extremely important, the only way to ensure that your mark won't be altered significantly is to be the number 1 SAC rank.
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I know, I did both subjects. But someone who has a good understanding of English should be able to write good History pieces. Sure the structures are different, but it's still presenting an argument.
Would being good at Lit translate to getting 50 in Media, Psychology and International Studies? Will definitely be top of my Media cohort, Psych cohort is mostly middle band with a mix of low intelligence and an upper band, and International Studies should be extrememly competitive, with only that upper band.
Also got Methods and Chem which I've always been a 90%-100% student in, but still not confident on cracking 45...
Also got Methods and Chem which I've always been a 90%-100% student in, but still not confident on cracking 45...
It's always best to choose subjects that you like, and have the cognitive habits to excel in. For example, my strengths and interests are literature, humanities and social affairs. Hence I could dominate in Lit, Media, Psych and International Studies. I'm also more likely to do well on exam day in terms of mental preparation, as these come to me more naturally.
If I was to choose Physics, Spec, Methods, Chemistry, etc, which I'm probably better at but loathe, I'd be more likely to constantly fall at SAC's, and struggle to prepare for all of these come exams. You HAVE to pick subjects you like, regardless of what your parents say. If you're good at tech subjects choose them. If you like drama/arts go for those, because you can score easily and really clock up a big score.
If I was to choose Physics, Spec, Methods, Chemistry, etc, which I'm probably better at but loathe, I'd be more likely to constantly fall at SAC's, and struggle to prepare for all of these come exams. You HAVE to pick subjects you like, regardless of what your parents say. If you're good at tech subjects choose them. If you like drama/arts go for those, because you can score easily and really clock up a big score.
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Great advice. Don't placed your eggs in one subject's basket. Do NOT neglect a subject thinking you'll ace another one, it doesn't work that way - strange things happen come exam time.
Great advice. Don't placed your eggs in one subject's basket. Do NOT neglect a subject thinking you'll ace another one, it doesn't work that way - strange things happen come exam time.
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Always play to your strengths... but also don't get complacent about doing subjects you are good at. I know I did, and I did very little work during my exam period. Which undid all the work I put in throughout the year.
By the time you are in year 12 what your parents have to say about the direction of your future should not matter to you. It's your life.
WRT Lit and Int. Studies, etc. Gazza. Lit (from what I understand from mates) requires both 'rote learning' and good communication, organisation and writing skills. This will sit well with Studies and Psych. However don't go into the subject expecting 50's, to get a 50 you really need a natural aptitude for a subject as well as being willing to work hard at it. That's a rare combination.
My dad forced me to do Methods in year 12. Wheras I knew I hated the subject and wouldn't do as well as I would have in another subject I had an interest in.
Halfway throught the first term, I had enough. Told him in no uncertain terms that I wasn't doing Methods anymore... all he said was '..ok'.
By the time you are in year 12 what your parents have to say about the direction of your future should not matter to you. It's your life.
WRT Lit and Int. Studies, etc. Gazza. Lit (from what I understand from mates) requires both 'rote learning' and good communication, organisation and writing skills. This will sit well with Studies and Psych. However don't go into the subject expecting 50's, to get a 50 you really need a natural aptitude for a subject as well as being willing to work hard at it. That's a rare combination.
My dad forced me to do Methods in year 12. Wheras I knew I hated the subject and wouldn't do as well as I would have in another subject I had an interest in.
Halfway throught the first term, I had enough. Told him in no uncertain terms that I wasn't doing Methods anymore... all he said was '..ok'.
Strongly agree with this.
I'm in year 12 and having gone in a science/maths direction when I'm far better suited humanities subjects is looking like it might cost me the score I'm aiming for.
It's a shit feeling.
ThePuppetMaster
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Far from the be all and end all mate, believe me.
If you have your heart set on a specific course and you don't get the score, try another course at that Uni and try and get a transfer (read up on this before you nominate your preferences though).
I finished last year and there are a lot of avenues if you do solidly at uni.
What happens if you are sick for the GAT?
ThePuppetMaster
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No ones cares?
You probably have to provide a medical certificate though.
And you will probably have to do it anyway, while annoying ...it is a nice safeguard for you.
You probably have to provide a medical certificate though.
And you will probably have to do it anyway, while annoying ...it is a nice safeguard for you.
Really? When would you do it
I thought it was just like an exam where everyone had to do it at exactly the same time, and if you don't then you don't...?
ThePuppetMaster
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I had a mate who did it at a later date, probably was the wrong word.
You should do it anyway.
You should do it anyway.
Highly doubt you'll be allowed to do it at a later date, I suppose they could make up a new one for all those that missed the first though...
Yeah, i am... The question got thrown around the common room today though and no-one seemed to have an answer
Cheers. Very keen on Int. Studies, although cohort this year was incredibly competitive, given a strong humanities tendency within. Next year seems geared towards maths/science so perhaps I'll get lucky. Not so keen on Psych though. While it's reasonably easy, doesn't quite sit for me on the basis of interest. Swaying..
Best advice is to just to subjects you're interested in. Nothing worse than doing a subject just because you think you'll get a good score in it and then hating every moment of it throughout the year. Besides, I think it's more important to enjoy year 12 than get the perfect ATAR.
Having said that I've heard Psych is really enjoyable as a subject, though I never did it. From what I gather you don't have to do any of the stats stuff you have to do in uni, just learn about the brain and thought processes etc. I would have loved to do Int. Studies, sounded like a great subject but my school didn't offer it so I did both histories and National Politics instead. I did Further solely because I heard how easy it was to kill and by halfway through the year I'd already consigned it as my bottom subject.
Having said that I've heard Psych is really enjoyable as a subject, though I never did it. From what I gather you don't have to do any of the stats stuff you have to do in uni, just learn about the brain and thought processes etc. I would have loved to do Int. Studies, sounded like a great subject but my school didn't offer it so I did both histories and National Politics instead. I did Further solely because I heard how easy it was to kill and by halfway through the year I'd already consigned it as my bottom subject.
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If you aren't keen on Psych, I would avoid it.
It doesn't give you any bonus in terms of tertiary application, and as a highly filled and competitive subject it is harder to do really well ie. 42-3+
It also scales down.
It doesn't give you any bonus in terms of tertiary application, and as a highly filled and competitive subject it is harder to do really well ie. 42-3+
It also scales down.
