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Let's be honest he is the the king.
Current Aussie woman caught with 5.8kg of charlie at Colombia airport
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Let's be honest he is the the king.
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This is so wrong, how can the family even try to benefit from Cassie's arrest.
And, now Cassie is smiling and waving from her cell with the sign "Cassandra asks for "freedom immediately.”
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...r/news-story/ff3f85333fd4e412e423fb925cfa4687
And, now Cassie is smiling and waving from her cell with the sign "Cassandra asks for "freedom immediately.”
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...r/news-story/ff3f85333fd4e412e423fb925cfa4687
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Not to mention the fact that she's applied to have the Australian Government cover part of her lawyer fees (which while is her right as an Australian citizen, seems like a bit of an injustice and a huge waste of money)
Maybe there's a good get-rich-scheme in play here:-
Set up the least-liked and stupid member of the family as a drug mule.
If they get away with it - profit $$$$$$$$.
If they get caught - 'Oh No!', tears, cries for help, 60 Minutes, Women's weekly - profit $$$$. (Plus you don't have to deal with annoying family member for a few years).
Set up the least-liked and stupid member of the family as a drug mule.
If they get away with it - profit $$$$$$$$.
If they get caught - 'Oh No!', tears, cries for help, 60 Minutes, Women's weekly - profit $$$$. (Plus you don't have to deal with annoying family member for a few years).
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Well, let's see how they use the money....
It would be a problem’: Legal concerns around family’s Cocaine Cassie tell-all
PAUL TOOHEY, News Corp Australia Network
THE family of Cassie Sainsbury must ensure any money paid to them by 60 Minutes does not commercially benefit the accused drug smuggler, otherwise Australian Federal Police could seize it under proceeds-of-crime law.
With reports that Sainsbury’s sister Khala and mother Lisa Evans have negotiated a high and undisclosed fee to travel to Colombia, with a view to filming an exclusive with Sainsbury in her Bogota prison, they are entering a grey area of the law.
Legal specialists said the AFP could apply for a restraining order on any funds paid by 60 Minutes and seek its forfeiture even before Sainsbury faced court, if they believed the money would benefit her.
That could include paying Sainsbury’s legal fees, putting money aside for her later release, paying her debts, seeking independent psychiatric advice, hiring a private detective to investigate the case, or paying to upgrade her life in prison.
“It would be a problem if they received money and used it to fund her legal expenses, for example. The money would need to be quarantined and not flow through to Cassie, because as soon as it does, it creates an opening for the AFP.”
However, if the family used the money only to travel back and forth to Colombia to give emotional support to Sainsbury, it would unlikely attract AFP interest.
The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 identifies “literary” proceeds as payments for books or media interviews, and the AFP does not require a person to be convicted to act.
The AFP could apply for a restraining order on funds if they believed Sainsbury was “on the balance of probabilities” guilty, and would benefit from 60 Minutes’ money.
Full Article
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...l/news-story/f7d4fb43875684db8dbb18106d3eb95d
It would be a problem’: Legal concerns around family’s Cocaine Cassie tell-all
PAUL TOOHEY, News Corp Australia Network
THE family of Cassie Sainsbury must ensure any money paid to them by 60 Minutes does not commercially benefit the accused drug smuggler, otherwise Australian Federal Police could seize it under proceeds-of-crime law.
With reports that Sainsbury’s sister Khala and mother Lisa Evans have negotiated a high and undisclosed fee to travel to Colombia, with a view to filming an exclusive with Sainsbury in her Bogota prison, they are entering a grey area of the law.
Legal specialists said the AFP could apply for a restraining order on any funds paid by 60 Minutes and seek its forfeiture even before Sainsbury faced court, if they believed the money would benefit her.
That could include paying Sainsbury’s legal fees, putting money aside for her later release, paying her debts, seeking independent psychiatric advice, hiring a private detective to investigate the case, or paying to upgrade her life in prison.
“It would be a problem if they received money and used it to fund her legal expenses, for example. The money would need to be quarantined and not flow through to Cassie, because as soon as it does, it creates an opening for the AFP.”
However, if the family used the money only to travel back and forth to Colombia to give emotional support to Sainsbury, it would unlikely attract AFP interest.
The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 identifies “literary” proceeds as payments for books or media interviews, and the AFP does not require a person to be convicted to act.
The AFP could apply for a restraining order on funds if they believed Sainsbury was “on the balance of probabilities” guilty, and would benefit from 60 Minutes’ money.
Full Article
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...l/news-story/f7d4fb43875684db8dbb18106d3eb95d
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Whether it is a huge waste of money or not , all they will mostly be doing is seeing that everything is done above board and that she is safe, they will be also trying to make a deal where she serves her sentence in Australia.
While I don't agree with the crime she is charged with I would hope that if any of my family were caught in this situation the Consulate was doing as much as they could
It's not like it'd be the first deal a member of this family hadn't thought all the way through.
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I would make the argument that it is only due to the allegations that the family are appearing so are proceeds of criminal behaviour
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But if she committed a serious crime in Australia she wouldn't get anywhere near the monetary assistance to find a lawyer that she does because she committed a crime with a possible sentence of 20+years overseas.
Not sure that is exactly fair, especially seeing as the family is getting around the "proceeds of crime" laws to make bank as well
Not sure that is exactly fair, especially seeing as the family is getting around the "proceeds of crime" laws to make bank as well
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She could apply for Legal Aid in Australia
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Obviously. But do legal aid solicitors get paid $290 an hour or barristers get paid $3600 a day? I don't get the impression that they do.
If not, she'll potentially be getting a better/higher paid legal defense provided for by the government in Colombia than she would in Adelaide
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Wasn't there an article last week saying how the publicity in the Australian media could mean that she would face a longer sentence because the Colombians wanted to make an example of her. Nek minnut her family is doing interviews on 60 minutes....
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I see the family is heading over to see her. Wonder if they will pick up any souvenirs for the folks back home?
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Now watching as C9 dress down her charges with the poor girl story.
C7 meanwhile because they dont "have" the story are televising the "drug mule" story.
Gotta love television ratings executives.
C7 meanwhile because they dont "have" the story are televising the "drug mule" story.
Gotta love television ratings executives.
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There is no value in media reporting today. News has to become a defined term with codes of conduct.
Otherwise it should be shown with the word entertainment disclosure in the corner
Otherwise it should be shown with the word entertainment disclosure in the corner
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Apparently the police might now be bothered to find "Angelo"/"Tom"
I'm still unclear as to how finding this guy would prove her "innocence"
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...e/news-story/c2323fac6f71e1881777ce965ab66249
I'm still unclear as to how finding this guy would prove her "innocence"
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cops won't look too hard as it was probably a cop or someone associated with a group that pays cops.
she should just "cop" the years on the chin and get on with life rather than trying to seek justice or mitigate her involvement. cops, judges and mayors in developing nations are to easily bribed.
The best she could hope for, going this direction, is more years in jail and worse case she uncovers some corruption and ends up dead.
Channel 9 are no doubt feeding stories into the News Media that play up the 'Tragic Innocent Duped' line. They will drip-feed information from 'sources', 'spokespersons', and such-like that can spin the story in the way they want to present it (the Innocent line is generally popular).
I notice in one of the News Stories today they have used one of her spunky 'athletic/sporty' photos again, rather than the 'caught drug mule' mugshot. No reason to drag out a photo from several years ago - except to keep presenting her in a favorable light.
As discussed above - it may be called News, but it's presented as entertainment.
I notice in one of the News Stories today they have used one of her spunky 'athletic/sporty' photos again, rather than the 'caught drug mule' mugshot. No reason to drag out a photo from several years ago - except to keep presenting her in a favorable light.
As discussed above - it may be called News, but it's presented as entertainment.
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What happened to the one report saying she might be able to serve the term in an Australia jail "According to her lawyer"
If she is guilty then I hope she gets the death squad. These drugs ruin a lot of lives. There should be no mercy - or pity - for those trying to profit off of a drug that ruined lives and families. If she did get caught smuggling drugs - as alleged - then she should face the death squad.
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I think it was more that she might be able to serve parole in Australia, not any prison sentence.
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Just putting it out there... not condoning it in any way. Or what she did.
But for those in the know... does Cocaine really 'destroy lives' and 'lead to crime' and 'put people in the gutter' 'overdoses' 'people in the ER' ???
Surely ice, alcohol and cigarettes are doing far more damage.
But maybe it would if more people had access to it.
The only people I know that have used it/use it are extremely successful and wealthy people...
And I could be wrong, just my experience. And I'm not saying it's good either just being specific.
Sometimes it's easy to throw a blanket over every drug because of ice etc
