Workshop Australian Flag

[NM_Mitchell]

Yeah, I guess.
It's not like the state flags need to be the same as the national flags, though.

 

[Mr Eagle]

That's actually garb.

I'd rather the Golden Wattle over that, which I've come rather fond of, lately.

Spoiler

Wattle:

That design ain't wattle.

 

[HTT]

Out of curiosity, can you mock it up with the same colours of the current flag or even with a green field, gold ring and white inner circle?

Spoiler: Green, Gold, White

Which you actually can't have (gold/white thing), so you'd do this

Spoiler: Re-done

And then onto the current colours (I can't see navy being anything other than a background, but if you want to see another order, ask and I'll do it )

Spoiler: Navy, Red, White

And

Spoiler: Navy, white, red

The last ones my personal favourite out of those 4. If you want any other versions, just ask (or do them yourself, it's a pretty simple design )

 

[hitthepost]

Personally, I think it looks quite good, it's only drawback being the slight resemblance to the Japanese flag.

So slight it's hardly worth mentioning I reckon...
Completely different colours and a further design element (second circle).
I wouldn't have even made the comparison if you hadn't mentioned it, I don't reckon many people would have (does that make you special? I dunno, haha )

 

[Spanna_]

That's actually garb.

I'd rather the Golden Wattle over that, which I've come rather fond of, lately.

Spoiler

The Golden Wattle would be an ideal choice. For starters Its simple, would be an easily remembered national symbol not just for young australians, but people overseas, draws from where we got our national colours and looks great all at the same time.

 

[akkaps]

http://theage.com.au/victoria/proau...elebrate-australian-flag-20160613-gpi727.html


http://theage.com.au/comment/the-racist-history-of-our-flag-cannot-be-denied-20160602-gpa7ik.html

 

[alzy11]

Not a flag, but a Coat of Arms type thing based on the AOC's new logo

 

[Craegus]

Not a flag, but a Coat of Arms type thing based on the AOC's new logo

Not bad, but it needs some wattle on it.

 

[jpmelb7]

Not bad, but it needs some wattle on it.

Just replace Union Jack with Coat of Arms and Bobs your Uncle. Stylized Coat of Arms not the overly complicated one. Would probably need thin white outline around it. Maybe someone could knock one up.

 

[The Cheesecake]

So with the decision for Britain to leave the EU today, and Scotland voting strongly to stay, I reckon Scotland could leave the UK within the next 5-10 years. That said, I'd imagine the Union Jack would change if that ever happened. Would the Union Jack change on our flag change if theirs did? Is there any precedent for that?

 

[Spanna_]

Interesting- David Cameron just resigned as PM after today's Brexit decision.

 

[Barrybran]

So with the decision for Britain to leave the EU today, and Scotland voting strongly to stay, I reckon Scotland could leave the UK within the next 5-10 years. That said, I'd imagine the Union Jack would change if that ever happened. Would the Union Jack change on our flag change if theirs did? Is there any precedent for that?

The Union Jack becomes awfully white if it does change. All Commonwealth flags would look strange.

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[Jack Stevens]

So with the decision for Britain to leave the EU today, and Scotland voting strongly to stay, I reckon Scotland could leave the UK within the next 5-10 years. That said, I'd imagine the Union Jack would change if that ever happened. Would the Union Jack change on our flag change if theirs did? Is there any precedent for that?

There's also talk of a new push for a unification of Ireland, as Northern Ireland also voted in favour of remaining. That would take the diagonal red cross out of the Union Jack.

What a cluster**** of a decision by the UK. The 2014 Scottish Independence referendum had 44.7% of Scots in favour of leaving the UK. Today's result will strengthen the 'leave' vote for Scotland. I don't think it'll be 5-10 years, more like 1-2.

 

[Craegus]

So with the decision for Britain to leave the EU today, and Scotland voting strongly to stay, I reckon Scotland could leave the UK within the next 5-10 years. That said, I'd imagine the Union Jack would change if that ever happened. Would the Union Jack change on our flag change if theirs did? Is there any precedent for that?

The Union Jack becomes awfully white if it does change. All Commonwealth flags would look strange.

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There's also talk of a new push for a unification of Ireland, as Northern Ireland also voted in favour of remaining. That would take the diagonal red cross out of the Union Jack.

What a cluster**** of a decision by the UK. The 2014 Scottish Independence referendum had 44.7% of Scots in favour of leaving the UK. Today's result will strengthen the 'leave' vote for Scotland. I don't think it'll be 5-10 years, more like 1-2.

A Scotland 2nd referendum is practically already in the works so it will certainly happen sooner rather than later, especially since one of the major factors that caused the most recent referendum for independence to fail was the certainty that if they remained in the UK they were guaranteed membership in the EU (where as an independent Scotland was not) and now that promise has been thrown away.

Also if Sinn Fein is calling for a unification vote in Ireland then it must also be likely to happen as well as they would certainly not take a decision like that very lightly.

If these two go ahead and are successful I would almost certainly think a new flag for us would almost have to happen. Though it is possible that we will just remain the same with the government claiming that as we are not completely reliant on the UK anymore and as such we can keep the elements on our flag the same despite the end of the UK as we know it.

 

[The Cheesecake]

There's also talk of a new push for a unification of Ireland, as Northern Ireland also voted in favour of remaining. That would take the diagonal red cross out of the Union Jack.

What a cluster**** of a decision by the UK. The 2014 Scottish Independence referendum had 44.7% of Scots in favour of leaving the UK. Today's result will strengthen the 'leave' vote for Scotland. I don't think it'll be 5-10 years, more like 1-2.

I'd agree on sentiment, but logistically they probably wouldn't have another vote that soon

 

[rabbitoh21]

So, if Scotland leave the UK and Northern Ireland vote to join the Republic or otherwise create a new Irish state separate from the UK, our flag won't change. The Union Jack on our flag won't be touched as if even a tiny amount of the flag were to be changed, the entire flag might as well be from a legislative standpoint. The UJ is simply there as no-one has yet ballsed up the courage to push for it to be removed. The Irish is a particularly peculiar situation as I can't imagine loyalists leaving the UK just because of the Brexit, considering the bloodshed and turmoil between themselves and Sinn Fein and also Ireland. Scotland, on the other hand, are almost certain to become independent now.

 

[Craegus]

So, if Scotland leave the UK and Northern Ireland vote to join the Republic or otherwise create a new Irish state separate from the UK, our flag won't change. The Union Jack on our flag won't be touched as if even a tiny amount of the flag were to be changed, the entire flag might as well be from a legislative standpoint. The UJ is simply there as no-one has yet ballsed up the courage to push for it to be removed. The Irish is a particularly peculiar situation as I can't imagine loyalists leaving the UK just because of the Brexit, considering the bloodshed and turmoil between themselves and Sinn Fein and also Ireland. Scotland, on the other hand, are almost certain to become independent now.

NI might consider it as it is financially beneficial to both Ireland's (according to a financial times article to the level of €30bn with most of it heading to NI as it is behind the rest of Ireland in infrastructure and living) to unify now that the UK is soon to be out of the EU.

 

[rabbitoh21]

NI might consider it as it is financially beneficial to both Ireland's (according to a financial times article to the level of €30bn with most of it heading to NI as it is behind the rest of Ireland in infrastructure and living) to unify now that the UK is soon to be out of the EU.

RoIreland will also benefit from being an English-speaking (obviously outside the Gaeltacht) entry point to the EU nations, which will no doubt help their economy.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Would the Union Jack change on our flag change if theirs did?

Not automatically, no. Our flag is what it is and parliament would have to legislate any change.

 

[alzy11]

I think the uncertainty surrounding the UK and the UJ in addition to a potential NT statehood all in the next 5-10 years might persuade the next government to look seriously at changing the flag.

 

[The Cheesecake]

I think the uncertainty surrounding the UK and the UJ in addition to a potential NT statehood all in the next 5-10 years might persuade the next government to look seriously at changing the flag.

Depends very much who is in power. A Labor/Greens government would be far more likely to look into it over the Libs

 

[akkaps]

Depends very much who is in power. A Labor/Greens government would be far more likely to look into it over the Libs

Tony didn't even know how many points are on the the main star on our flag. No hope with the Libs.

 

[The Cheesecake]

Tony didn't even know how many points are on the the main star on our flag. No hope with the Libs.

Well I meant more on a monarchist/policy level, but yes there's their general idiocy as well

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

Tony didn't even know how many points are on the the main star on our flag. No hope with the Libs.

Doesn't surprise me. With his mindset, he probably doesn't realise there are any stars on there in the first place

 

[Jack Stevens]

I dunno, Turnbull was head of the Australian Republic Movement the last time we had a referendum. Maybe if the Libs win the election, Turnbull will actually have some say on their policies.

I think we'll have to wait for Betty to kick the bucket for anything to get through, though.