Australian politician ‘sold out’ to foreign regime after being recruited by spies, Asio boss says

[Ice-Wolf]

Rumour is that naming the person would robb them of natural justice.

 

[The Punter]

Rumour is that naming the person would robb them of natural justice.

The rumour I heard is that the CARRiage of natural justice is imperative.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The rumour I heard is that the CARRiage of natural justice is imperative.

That's really the crux of the issue there are so many ex-pollies with the appearance of compromise that is could be any of a dozen or more.

 

[HairyO]

We know this new revelation is not about Bob Carr because we all know he sold out years ago, number one Panda Hugger. There's a few suspects on both sides parliament.

And all from NSW. We really have looked at Joh in QLD and decided he was a light-weight and we could do so much better.

Mind you, even in the 1970s we were bringing Mafia bosses here in return for massive bribes.

 

[raven echo]

Surely the Member for Manila would be a candidate?


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[Black Diamond]

Surely the Member for Manila would be a candidate?


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Left parliament after 2019.

 

[Black Diamond]

Both major parties and the Greens have candidates for this type of behaviour.

Why did nobody say anything when Keating was given a private AUKUS briefing?

Why was it not a scandal for Bob Carr to enter the senate after his extra curriculars with China were revealed?

Those events were free hits for Labor critics.

 

[raven echo]

Left parliament after 2019.

Spewing! Could never stand that grub.


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[kalex6251]

Former Liberal candidate jailed over attempt to influence Morrison government for China

Di Sanh Duong sentenced under 2018 laws after seeking to cultivate relationship with Alan Tudge, who is not accused of wrongdoing

www.theguardian.com

 

[spinynorman]

Wyatt Roy does now have a job with the Saudi Royal Family, which could be an option if we look beyond China as the state.

 

[Al Heimer]

C'mon only one? ASIO must have more incompetent dickheads working for it than Parliament has.

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[HairyO]

I should hope that Old Mate from ASIO is being hauled into the PM's office today to explain why he thought it was appropriate to throw this hand grenade into the public arena. There is simply no logical justification for it, other than trying to big note the work ASIO are doing (which it didn't).

And if it turns out to be an ex Labor pollie Albo will have tried to meddle and that will stain him.

He will get someone else to do it.

I dont care what it interferes with. If there is evidence of politicians committing treason we need to know.

Laws have been on the books for over 100 years. The idea that we have to have the 2018 laws is just dumb.

 

[HairyO]

And then for lols it turns out to be john Hewson.

Hewson is owned and paid for by merchant bankers. I dont think they care about any one country.

 

[HairyO]

How dodgy are these Liberal campaigners?

Did you read the article ? They are all campaigners.

Mr Robb joins former foreign minister Bob Carr and former Victorian premier John Brumby in leaving lucrative roles with companies or, in Mr Carr’s case, a think tank, founded by businessmen with strong ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

 

[Carn The Berries]

And if it turns out to be an ex Labor pollie Albo will have tried to meddle and that will stain him.

He will get someone else to do it.

I dont care what it interferes with. If there is evidence of politicians committing treason we need to know.

Laws have been on the books for over 100 years. The idea that we have to have the 2018 laws is just dumb.

Well, not exactly. If there is an ongoing investigation into a political figure (current or former) there is absolutely nothing to be gained by making that information public until such time that the investigation is concluded (I would argue that if the investigation didn't find sufficient evidence to support charges being laid then the details should never be made public in the interest of procedural fairness).

 

[QuietB]

Well, not exactly. If there is an ongoing investigation into a political figure (current or former) there is absolutely nothing to be gained by making that information public until such time that the investigation is concluded (I would argue that if the investigation didn't find sufficient evidence to support charges being laid then the details should never be made public in the interest of procedural fairness).

I call bullshit on that. I would be certain that the investigation found more than enough evidence but the ramifications of charges and a trial are not in the interests of the powers that be (be they Australian interests of foreign interests).

 

[QuietB]

Did you read the article ? They are all campaigners.

Mr Robb joins former foreign minister Bob Carr and former Victorian premier John Brumby in leaving lucrative roles with companies or, in Mr Carr’s case, a think tank, founded by businessmen with strong ties to the Chinese Communist Party.

Agree both sides are as bad as each other. Still think it is a Liberal though.

 

[Festerz]

Alex Turnbull, a businessman and son of former Liberal PM Malcolm Turnbull, , said that he believes he may have been the target of the approach referred to by Burgess.

Alex has confirmed he was approached by suspicious overseas operatives and that he passed on details of the approach to security agencies.

While declining to go into detail, he said that the family members of politicians needed better training about how to respond to suspicious approaches.

He told news.com.au the approach was “just so brazen”.

“My reaction was to express no interest and forward the details immediately to the authorities,” he said.

 

[HairyO]

Agree both sides are as bad as each other. Still think it is a Liberal though.

Based on a gut feel based on hating liberal ideas...

China has owned more Labor politicians so the odds lie there, however the Libs have someone who was friendly to China with no obvious monetary links which speaks to ideology.

Like the UK where most Soviet spies were strong socialists and not in it for the money.

I have no idea who it is but think that if there is enough evidence to speak out, surely the century old law should be tested. Regardless of their party.

 

[HairyO]

Alex Turnbull, a businessman and son of former Liberal PM Malcolm Turnbull, , said that he believes he may have been the target of the approach referred to by Burgess.

Alex has confirmed he was approached by suspicious overseas operatives and that he passed on details of the approach to security agencies.

While declining to go into detail, he said that the family members of politicians needed better training about how to respond to suspicious approaches.

He told news.com.au the approach was “just so brazen”.

“My reaction was to express no interest and forward the details immediately to the authorities,” he said.

Alex Turnbull loves to make things about Alex Turnbull. No surprise he is injecting himself into this.

Maybe he should name which ex politician approached him.

 

[Festerz]

Alex Turnbull loves to make things about Alex Turnbull. No surprise he is injecting himself into this.

Maybe he should name which ex politician approached him.

Err - he didn't say he was approached by an ex-politician.

 

[HairyO]

Err - he didn't say he was approached by an ex-politician.

I know. Kind of my point in the 1st part.

This is about which ex-polly's shilling for another country has breached our existing laws.

Id be amazed if hundreds of Australians arent approached every single year. Id also be amazed if we were also doing it ourselves to others overseas.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I know. Kind of my point in the 1st part.

This is about which ex-polly's shilling for another country has breached our existing laws.

Id be amazed if hundreds of Australians arent approached every single year. Id also be amazed if we were also doing it ourselves to others overseas.

meaning that Alex may not be aware who the politician was, but thinks perhaps he was the family member mentioned in the story. Not an unreasonable take. Would be worried if Alex was getting cash for media appearances to say his story though (a dig at media morals)

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

What political leanings does Burgess have?

 

[HairyO]

meaning that Alex may not be aware who the politician was, but thinks perhaps he was the family member mentioned in the story. Not an unreasonable take. Would be worried if Alex was getting cash for media appearances to say his story though (a dig at media morals)

I think Daddy keeps him financially safe.