Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Eagleboy2011]

But you do want it repealed though, don't you?

Kirky is the typical person George Orwell described.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. "

 

[kirky]

Someone is salvating at the thought of Dutton become PM



So reading the article further there is a 98% chance of a minority government. Well colour me surprised.

 

[Mutineer]

Someone is salvating at the thought of Dutton become PM

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So reading the article further there is a 98% chance of a minority government. Well colour me surprised.

Someone is finding it hard to believe that his and Australia's supposed saviour Upgrade Albanese has been a complete and utter failure and an absolute dud Prime Minister.

The fact the much maligned Peter Dutton looks, walks and talks like the Prime Minister in waiting must be really hard for you to get your head around.

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[Mutineer]

And people wonder why celebrity chaser Albanese, grim Jim Chalmers and that little weasel Bowen are becoming so despised...

Where are all the lefty tryhards trying to tell us the renewables transition is going swimmingly....when in fact it's an absolute disaster when "Big Brother" is even considering using these disgusting methods on households let alone industry and businesses. Spin it whatever way you want this mob is out of control.

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EXCLUSIVE
Households will soon lose total control of power to their home, with air-conditioner thermostats remotely dialled up and hot-water units dialled down as authorities increasingly intervene to cut demand when the weather is unexpectedly hot and supply is unreliable.

Monash University associate professor Roger Dargaville made the forecasts after the Australian Energy Market Operator revealed it paid industrial power users more than $3.5 million in compensation for agreeing to cut their consumption as Sydney confronted blackouts last week.

The prospect of the lights going out loomed because of a combination of unseasonal near-40C temperatures, outages at coal-fired power stations and low generation from wind farms.

Dr Dargaville, who specialises in “large-scale energy system transition optimisation”, said authorities would have to expand their options to deal with more frequent instances of surprisingly high demand and low supply.

Options were likely to include the installation of “widgets” on aircons that allow third parties to engage “economy mode” to reduce power use in peak periods.
Dr Dargaville laid out his vision after AEMO CEO Daniel Westerman told an energy planning and regulation Senate committee hearing that the market operator spent $3,557,700 on reducing demand to increase emergency reserves in NSW on Wednesday November 27 as a supply shortage took shape.

Records appear to show that this was the first time AEMO had paid to cut power usage in NSW since the crisis of June 2022, when it spent $75m over three days.

Last financial year, AEMO outlaid a total of $4m on demand reduction – in Victoria and SA.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

And people wonder why celebrity chaser Albanese, grim Jim Chalmers and that little weasel Bowen are becoming so despised...

Where are all the lefty tryhards trying to tell us the renewables transition is going swimmingly....when in fact it's an absolute disaster when "Big Brother" is even considering using these disgusting methods on households let alone industry and businesses. Spin it whatever way you want this mob is out of control.

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You do realise load shedding by industry on hot days is not a new thing.

It happened all through the coalition years too, yet I don't recall you mentioning it once?

 

[Mutineer]

You do realise load shedding by industry on hot days is not a new thing.

It happened all through the coalition years too, yet I don't recall you mentioning it once?

Because coal has been transitioned out long before it should have been, before the coalition came into power absolutely no other reason and you know it. It's a failure by both the coalition and Labor but much much more that's on Labor.

 

[Vader]

Because coal has been transitioned out long before it should have been, before the coalition came into power absolutely no other reason and you know it. It's a failure by both the coalition and Labor but much much more that's on Labor.

Well, you're partly right.

Coal isn't being transitioned out too soon - but the system isn't ready for it yet, largely due to a decade of "masterly inactivity" in the area of Energy Policy by the previous LNP Govt. The LNP knew the life expectancy of the coal generators, knew when they were going to reach end-of-life and be turned off. They knew that the energy companies weren't going to build any new coal generators, because they are uneconomical to build & operate in the current world. They knew all this and they did nothing - they sat on their hands for a decade. Their whole Energy Policy in this time was not to have an Energy Policy, and now Australia is paying the price of their inaction and ineptitude.

The ALP are doing all they can to speed up the introduction of renewables, and upgrading the grid to cope with the decentralised power generation, but they're pushing shit uphill because the previous mob did SFA for a decade, putting Australia massively behind where we needed to be.

 

[Mutineer]

Well, you're partly right.

Coal isn't being transitioned out too soon - but the system isn't ready for it yet, largely due to a decade of "masterly inactivity" in the area of Energy Policy by the previous LNP Govt.

The ALP are doing all they can to speed up the introduction of renewables, and upgrading the grid to cope with the decentralised power generation, but they're pushing shit uphill because the previous mob did SFA for a decade, putting Australia massively behind where we needed to be.

Bullshit!!!

Spin it any way you want it's an unmitigated disaster and most of it sheets home to the ALP's ridiculous headlong rush into renewables long long long long before the infrastructure required is even remotely close to ready. At least ALP NSW Premier Chris Minns should be applauded for having the common sense to keep the Eraring Coal powered Power station going to mitigate a little of the problem...my money would be on it being extended even plenty further.

 

[Mutineer]

In Victoria this is all down to the ALP's ban on gas exploration for decades.

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Fast-approaching gas shortage detracts from nationwide efforts to tackle housing crisis​

As a gas supply shock looms, Australia’s No.1 home builder Metricon has revealed escalating energy bills are ‘significantly driving up’ production budgets and material expenses.

Skyrocketing gas prices are pushing up the cost of constructing urgently needed new homes.
As a gas supply shock looms, Australia’s No.1 home builder Metricon has revealed escalating energy bills are already “significantly driving up” production budgets and material expenses.

This masthead has learned that the price of gas to make bricks for one house has increased by about $700 or 200 per cent over six to eight years.

Gas costs have been the fastest rising expense for brick manufacturers for a decade.

They currently have no viable alternative to gas, nor do companies making other key components of a home, such as concrete, aluminium, steel and glass.
Building materials are, on average, 35 per cent more expensive now than in 2019, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. One of the major sources of pressure has been energy costs.

A fast-approaching gas shortage threatens to make matters worse and detract from nationwide efforts to tackle housing availability and affordability.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission in July warned of a structural gas supply deficit from 2027, in from 2028. About 90 per cent of gas consumption is by manufacturers.

A key reason the ACCC forecast the shortage to hit even sooner was regulatory delays to new project approvals.
Australian Energy Producers chief executive Samantha McCulloch said “reliable, affordable gas supply is essential to keep building costs down”.

“If Australia is to meet its ambitious housing construction targets and address housing affordability, we need continued investment in new gas supply.”

In a recent submission to the federal government, house-frame and roofing maker BlueScope Steel criticised “inconsistent approaches by state governments, for example Victoria and NSW, when it comes to new gas developments.

“The lack of new gas developments in eastern Australia will lead to significant increases in gas prices,” BlueScope said.

 

[Vader]

In Victoria this is all down to the ALP's ban on gas exploration for decades.

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Fast-approaching gas shortage detracts from nationwide efforts to tackle housing crisis​

As a gas supply shock looms, Australia’s No.1 home builder Metricon has revealed escalating energy bills are ‘significantly driving up’ production budgets and material expenses.

It's not "all down to" it - but it is definitely a major contributing factor.

 

[Mutineer]

Laugh all you like Vader, just shows you're just as rusted on to the ALP/Cwissy Bowen as I am to the LNP.

Only difference is I don't try to hide it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Because coal has been transitioned out long before it should have been, before the coalition came into power absolutely no other reason and you know it. It's a failure by both the coalition and Labor but much much more that's on Labor.

Lol, so the ALP are more at fault even though the Coalition have been in power for longer & had no energy policy for best part of decade.

You are so funny Bicks...

Yes, both parties need to take responsibility.

 

[Mutineer]

Lol, so the ALP are more at fault even though the Coalition have been in power for longer & had no energy policy for best part of decade.

You are so funny Bicks...

Yes, both parties need to take responsibility.

I understand as a lefty like you the truth hurts but it's the ALP that have instigated the ridiculous headlong rush into renewables...under the little weasel Bowen's current leadership it's no longer a ridiculous headlong rush into renewables when the infrastructure is decades away from being ready, it's now a ridiculous headlong rush inyo renewables on steroids under the little weasel.

I might be funny but the joke is on you lefty.

Care to make a wager on your ALP buddies meeting their 2030 emissions reduction target?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I understand as a lefty like you the truth hurts but it's the ALP that have instigated the ridiculous headlong rush into renewables...under the little weasel Bowen's current leadership it's no longer a ridiculous headlong rush into renewables when the infrastructure is decades away from being ready, it's now a ridiculous headlong rush inyo renewables on steroids under the little weasel.

I might be funny but the joke is on you lefty.

Care to make a wager on your ALP buddies meeting their 2030 emissions reduction target?

Fine to hold ALP to account now they are in power, but the fact you think the mess we are in has nothing to do with a lack of an energy policy for best part of a decade by the coalition is absolutely laughable! Lack of a policy meant a lack of badly needed investment which a huge contributor to the problems we have now.

 

[Vader]

Laugh all you like Vader, just shows you're just as rusted on to the ALP/Cwissy Bowen as I am to the LNP.

Only difference is I don't try to hide it.

Oh, the irony of you calling me out for using laugh emojis. Talk about pot kettle black, hypocrisy, and a singular lack of self-awareness.

I laugh because you're trying to blame the ALP for a situation which is almost entirely of the LNP's making. Yes, the problem has become manifest under the ALP, but its roots are in a decade of ineptitude/inaction by the LNP.

The problem isn't that we're moving too fast now, it's that we're having to play catch-up due to an entire decade of inaction under the previous mob.

 

[Mutineer]

Oh, the irony of you calling me out for using laugh emojis. Talk about pot kettle black, hypocrisy, and a singular lack of self-awareness.

I laugh because you're trying to blame the ALP for a situation which is almost entirely of the LNP's making. Yes, the problem has become manifest under the ALP, but its roots are in a decade of ineptitude/inaction by the LNP.

The problem isn't that we're moving too fast now, it's that we're having to play catch-up due to an entire decade of inaction under the previous mob.

Disliked.

And bullshit again,

I've been warned by a mod it's not proper internet etiquette apparently so I'm refraining from using them especially in the Political threads where I have been banned by that mod.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Someone is salvating at the thought of Dutton become PM

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So reading the article further there is a 98% chance of a minority government. Well colour me surprised.

Dutton’s way too left wing for my liking.

 

[rocket18]

You do realise load shedding by industry on hot days is not a new thing.

It happened all through the coalition years too, yet I don't recall you mentioning it once?

I know it's very unlike you to be disingenuous, but the headline/link clearly says "big changes coming to your airconditioner and hotwater unit.

Your reply talks about load shedding by industry, which is not the same as the government turning down/off your appliances because of their failed policies.

Your coalition argument doesn't work to well in SA when we've had a Labour government for the vast majority of the last 23 years.

In SA it has been the Labour governments policies that have led to us having some of the most expensive power prices in the world and soon to have us running out of power (hence the rush to get the 'green' diesel generators back on line)

 

[steve9798]

Someone is salvating at the thought of Dutton become PM

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So reading the article further there is a 98% chance of a minority government. Well colour me surprised.

"remember the time we foreclosed on the Johnson family's mortgage....ahh good times"

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Can't even keep the lights on at Adelaide Oval

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Can't even keep the lights on at Adelaide Oval

Solar powered.

 

[Mutineer]

I know it's very unlike you to be disingenuous, but the headline/link clearly says "big changes coming to your airconditioner and hotwater unit.

Your reply talks about load shedding by industry, which is not the same as the government turning down/off your appliances because of their failed policies.

Your coalition argument doesn't work to well in SA when we've had a Labour government for the vast majority of the last 23 years.

In SA it has been the Labour governments policies that have led to us having some of the most expensive power prices in the world and soon to have us running out of power (hence the rush to get the 'green' diesel generators back on line)

Liked..

Wasting your time mate, they've drunk the ALP Kool Aid

 

[rocket18]

Can't even keep the lights on at Adelaide Oval

If we had nuclear we could keep the lights on when the sun goes down.

 

[Mutineer]

Can't even keep the lights on at Adelaide Oval

Black and brown coal from interstate via the interconnector.

Of the total of power being generated in SA currently that dastardly fossil fuel GAS supplying 1272 MW, Wind 297 MW mW, Battery 56 MW

Generating 1631 MW all up
Current SA demand 2069MW

Thank god for that dastardly Fossil Fuel and the interstate interconnector keeping the lights on in SA...renewables SFA

 

[Slippery Pete]