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Mutineer said:
No different to Labor's Upgrade Albo and Dicktator Dan Andrews with Lindsay Fox..
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Indeed, so why did Dutton make a big deal of Albanese doing it, claiming he hadn't & turns out he did!

www.theguardian.com

Peter Dutton’s office asked Gina Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting for flight on private jet

Opposition leader, who says Anthony Albanese is ‘obfuscating’ in his answers on Qantas upgrades, says he never personally asked mining magnate
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Talk of an epic fail!

Did he conveniently forget or did he lie?

Either way hardly the credibility for someone wanting to lead our country.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Indeed, so why did Dutton make a big deal of Albanese doing it, claiming he hadn't & turns out he did!

www.theguardian.com

Peter Dutton’s office asked Gina Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting for flight on private jet

Opposition leader, who says Anthony Albanese is ‘obfuscating’ in his answers on Qantas upgrades, says he never personally asked mining magnate
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Talk of an epic fail!

Did he conveniently forget or did he lie?

Either way hardly the credibility for someone wanting to lead our country.
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None of which excuses Upgrade Albo from actively seeking out upgrades on commercial flights especially when he was the current transport minister is the big difference. Dutton isn't currently in the position to be able to curry influence and may never be, Upgrade Albo was and is.
 
Mutineer said:
None of which excuses Upgrade Albo from actively seeking out upgrades especially when he was the current transport minister is the big difference.
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Albanese apparently declared all his upgrades... meanwhile McKenzie is trying to retrospectively declare hers!

Your double standards is astounding because you are so rusted on!
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Albanese apparently declared all his upgrades... meanwhile McKenzie is trying to retrospectively declare hers!

Your double standards is astounding because you are so rusted on!
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So you think it's fine to go seeking upgrades on commercial flights if they're not on offer whether declared or not.....Seems I'm not the only rusted on one here lefty.
 
Mutineer said:
So you think it's fine to go seeking upgrades on commercial flights if they're not on offer whether declared or not.....Seems I'm not the only rusted on here lefty.
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There is no proof he has done anything wrong. You keep going on about someone not being guilty unless proven, but only when convenient. Clearly you haven't caught up with the allegations proven to be false.

Meanwhile if only you provided the same scrutiny to the Liberals.

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Bridget McKenzie addresses flight perks backflip as saga continues

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I'll call out any dodgy politician, but you will only call out the ALP & ignore Liberals.

It's why you lack credibility on the politics board as you are ridiculously biased!
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
There is no proof he has done anything wrong. You keep going on about someone not being guilty unless proven, but only when convenient. Clearly you haven't caught up with the allegations proven to be false.

Meanwhile if only you provided the same scrutiny to the Liberals.

9now.nine.com.au

Bridget McKenzie addresses flight perks backflip as saga continues

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I'll call out any dodgy politician, but you will only call out the ALP & ignore Liberals.

It's why you lack credibility on the politics board as you are ridiculously biased!
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Whatever lefty. at least unlike you I make no claim to be a centrist when all your posting clearly shows your left of centre.
 
Mutineer said:
Whatever lefty. at least unlike you I make no claim to be a centrist when all your posting clearly shows your left of centre.
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Nearly everyone on here knows I'll call out dodgy politicians irrespective of their party. You call out only ALP, whilst crickets on the same by Liberals.

Unlike you, I have voted for both major parties in the past 2 elections & others politicians in the upper house.

I'm a swinging voter & vote based on which party I believe have the best leadership team to take us forward.

Meanwhile you vote for the same party regardless of whether they are any good or not... that is the definition of a sheep.
 
Mutineer said:
No different to Labor's Upgrade Albo and Dicktator Dan Andrews with Lindsay Fox..
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Exactly. But I wasn’t the one roasting one party for it while making excuses for the other with religious devotion like they’re my favourite football team.

Mutineer said:
None of which excuses Upgrade Albo from actively seeking out upgrades on commercial flights especially when he was the current transport minister is the big difference. Dutton isn't currently in the position to be able to curry influence and may never be, Upgrade Albo was and is.
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Haha. I give up.
 

Insiders open up about Albanese’s Qantas perks disaster​

It hasn’t been a great week for the Prime Minister, but insiders have revealed that the Qantas perks scandal shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise.

The revelation that over several decades Anthony Albanese has trousered dozens of free flight upgrades from Qantas worth tens – if not hundreds – of thousands of dollars has sparked a political firestorm that is now burning out of control for the Prime Minister.
“It’s like a weather system that isn’t moving,” a senior government figure complained on Friday.

“I’m sick of defending it.”

The three fronts on which the PM is now engaged are - broadly speaking – questions over his own conduct as Transport Minister and Prime Minister in accepting what are effectively gifts from a company he was regulating.

There’s also the issue of the appropriateness of a disclosure system which allowed this to happen in plain view.

In Canberra however, the talk is not so much about the details or the rights and wrongs of the PM’s conduct, as about the inept way he has handled the scandal, which comes fast on the heels of his decision to spend $4.3 million on a Central Coast weekender.

That the story is still running unchecked a week after the extracts from Joe Aston’s book The Chairman’s Lounge were published, has Labor figures deeply worried about how match fit the Government’s leadership is going into next year’s election.

This has in turn revived memories of the disastrous first week of the last election campaign when Albanese couldn’t name the unemployment or cash RBA cash rates and fears that he learned nothing from that near political death experience.

“If this happened during an election it would be an absolute disaster for Labor,” says Cameron Milner, the former chief of staff to Bill Shorten, who in recent months has become a trenchant public critic of Albanese’s performance.

Insiders say part of the problem is that having been in parliament since 1996 Albanese has become all too accustomed to the perks that come with being a member of Club Fed.

“His problem is that during his three decades in parliament, community standards have really moved and he’s been totally wrong footed by that,” Milner said.
“He thinks he hasn’t done anything, and by the standards of 1996 he hasn’t.”

But even by the standards of Club Fed Albo has a good go of it.

In 2021 it was revealed he had accepted freebies to seven AFL grand finals, seven years at the Australian Open, four NRL grand finals, two Melbourne Cups and seven international cricket fixtures since 2009.

He’d also been comped to 23 concerts to acts such as U2, Prince and Adele as well, opera and theatre events and States of Origin.

Parliamentary travel records showed taxpayers had spent $20,000 for his travel and flights and accommodation his trips to the Australian Open, Melbourne Cup and Grand finals since 2008.

He might be the Marrickville man-of-the people who was raised by a single mother in public housing but as a NSW Labor MP said in 2021, seeing Mr Albanese at an A-list event was “about as surprising as running into Deidre Chambers” while another said it was well-known “the Left enjoy the freebies most.”

“He’s institutionalised and has worked out how to extract every bit of free s**t,” one of his colleagues complained this week.
Under Bill Shorten’s leadership Labor in Opposition became experts at unearthing Coalition expenses scandals, stories Albanese never hid his distaste for.

One of first acts as leader was to disband Shorten’s opposition research team.

Having been there a long time he understood there was nothing to be gained from drawing attention to a system everyone benefited from.

“I think it was probably a bit like Fight Club,” a minister jokes, adding, more seriously, “there’s a rationale not to dial these things up” for Labor.

“I think for parties of government - particularly of the centre-left - who want to effect change, public cynicism is particularly dangerous because if people believe ‘you’re all the same’ then nothing you do matters,” he said.

“Right around the world we are seeing moves to populism – so anything that makes people think there’s no point in engaging in mainstream democratic politics is bad for mainstream democratic politics.”

Pollster Kosmos Samaras agrees the Qantas story – like the earlier story about the $4.3 million house – feeds into existing prejudices.

“It further bakes in the strong perception that he is not one of them – that he is disconnected from the day-to-day lives of ordinary Australians,” he said.

He said the freebies were already a problem before this story broke.

“It comes up all the time,” he said.
“It’s not difficult to get an unprompted response to the brand the Prime Minister has created for himself” and it wasn’t a good one.

“Voters don’t share the same level of understanding that those in Canberra like to express for the Prime Minister,” he said.

He said focus groups conducted in the past week showed voters were already very aware of the Qantas story and didn’t care about whether or not the rules had been followed.

“They don’t pick up on any of that – what they notice is the level of service that politicians are getting from airlines compared to most Australians’ experience which is cancelled flights and lost bags,” he said.

A former NSW Labor MP who regards the PM as “one of the most decent honest people I’ve dealt with” said it was unfair that this was being sheeted home to him.

“You may mention it’s a pox on everyone’s house but the big target is going to be on Albo when the truth is they’re all in the same boat,” he said.

“If you’re saying the problem’s Albo – I say no the system is the problem.”

Others are less forgiving, particularly of the upgrades he got when transport minister.

“That’s where I think the real turpitude is,” a colleague said.

“He was the transport minister and he was getting favours from a major transport company.”

Senior Government figures said whatever happened, the system that allows MPs to claim unlimited upgrades as long as they were declared, clearly needed reforming.

But unless the Government – and particularly the Prime Minister – can improve how it is selling its message about what it is doing, it won’t be long before there’s another mess to clear up, Samaras warns.

“The one thing that’s clearly missing is a narrative and the only narrative they’re (the voters) getting is this,” he said.

A backbencher is more diplomatic, saying it was “an unfortunate set of circumstances” that was making it hard to get across a message on cost-of-living.

“The point about these two stories is their very existence has created this opportunity cost,” he said.

Milner is harsher, saying Albo’s problem at the moment is “as soon as he is under pressure he loses the power of speech.”
 
Dicktator Dan caught out again lying..


Daniel Andrews’ triple-0 call from car accident involving wife and Ryan Meuleman revealed​

Daniel Andrews’ triple-0 call from a contentious car crash with his wife can be revealed for the first time as the bombshell recording raises new questions about the accident. Listen to the audio.

Daniel Andrews’ triple-0 call from his infamous car accident can be revealed, with the former premier telling emergency services “we’ve hit him.”
The audio directly contradicts a police statement the former premier made a month after the crash in which he said “the cyclist hit our vehicle” and raises further questions about the accident that has dogged the former premier for more than a decade.

The Herald Sun has audio of the phone call that Mr Andrews made following a collision with a teenage cyclist in 2013 which is at the centre of a bitter legal battle.

Mr Andrews and his wife Catherine, who was driving at the time, have consistently held that cyclist Ryan Meuleman was at fault, with Mr Andrews telling reporters in 2017 that the teen was “moving at speed’’ when he “absolutely T-boned the car”.

And in his statement to police signed on February 5, 2013 at Springvale police station, Mr Andrews said “I want to make it clear - the cyclist hit our vehicle”.

Ryan Meuleman spent 10 days in hospital as he recovered from broken ribs, a punctured lung and had some of his spleen removed after being flown to the Royal Children’s Hospital.

The story was exposed by the Herald Sun.

In the call on January 7, 2013, Mr Andrews describes the accident.

“We’ve turned right into Ridley Street and a kid’s come flying through on the bike path and we’ve hit him,” Mr Andrews says.

“He’s a teenager...I’d say he’d be......he’d be 15.”

The operator asked how many people needed an ambulance and asked where the teenager was and who was with him.

“I’m just about 10 metres away, trying to get a mobile phone signal. My wife is with him at the moment,” he said.

The operator also asked if anyone else had called an ambulance.

“Was someone else on the phone to the ambulance maybe?”, the operator said.

Mr Andrews replied: “Ahhh, I don’t think so...ahh, my wife, my wife might be.”

Ryan Meuleman’s father Peter Meuleman called on Victorian police to reopen their investigation and said it was “disturbing” to hear the audio of the phone call.
“It’s really quite a chilling piece of audio,” he told The Herald Sun.

“It makes you relive it again and again, each time I hear it I picture my son going through it. And imagining him lying on the road.

“It makes me angry. That call was made six and half minutes after the crash. That’s a big gap.

“If I was involved in an accident the first thing you do is call triple zero.

“The case is about enabling my son to move forward with his life.

“I care about vindication for my son and getting justice for my son.

“He hasn’t been capable of holding down a job. That’s the mental scarring that is the legacy of this accident.”
Ryan, in 2013, said he had looked left and right before entering the intersection and didn’t see a vehicle approaching.

“I think it was an accident. I only saw them for a split second and they hit me. Very scary,” he said.

“She (Mrs Andrews) was yelling ‘Help’ and ‘Call an ambulance’, ‘You’ll be all right.”

This week Victorian MP David Limbrick, under parliamentary privilege, said Daniel Andrews had admitted in the call that “he hit” the cyclist, which is now being described as #bikeboyscandal.#bikeboyscandal#bikeboyscandal
 
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ADL9798 said:
Not quite as pious as your devotion to cherry picking evidence, being habitually wrong, and boiling your piss into oblivion every time the word COVID is mentioned :)
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One of my greatest disappointments about the evil you supported is that you stopped taking the jabs.

If I ask you nicely, will you take a bunch more?

Please take a bunch more.
 
Slippery Pete said:
One of my greatest disappointments about the evil you supported is that you stopped taking the jabs.

If I ask you nicely, will you take a bunch more?

Please take a bunch more.
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Now treated the same way as influenza vaccines, top up your immunity every 1-2 years, sensible.

But by all means please keep listening to RFK and BroScience podcasts and injecting yourself with bleach/popping deworming tablets. I’m sure you couldn’t possibly addle your brain any further than you have already.

As for “supporting evil”, when I think about who the phrase “wrong side of history” has been applied to over the years, proponents of eugenics and deliberately cleansing the population of the weak and vulnerable en masse as you proposed during the pandemic feature pretty prominently, it has to be said.
 
ADL9798 said:
But by all means please keep listening to your BroScience podcasts and injecting yourself with bleach/popping deworming tablets. I’m sure you couldn’t possibly addle your brain any further than you have already.
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Haven’t popped any pills. Didn’t need to.

I had the virus about three years ago, recovered from it, and lived happily ever after.

Like you would have.

The fact that you know this is true, and are going to live the rest of your life in denial about it, is absolutely hilarious. And sad.

But please, do continue to inject that substance into yourself unnecessarily.
 
ADL9798 said:
As for “supporting evil”, when I think about who the phrase “wrong side of history” has been applied to over the years, proponents of eugenics and deliberately cleansing the population of the weak and vulnerable en masse as you proposed during the pandemic feature pretty prominently, it has to be said.
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A healthy young person not taking an experimental “vaccine” does not = cleansing the world of the weak and vulnerable. Neither in theory nor practice.

Another thing you are pretending not to know.

Must be exhausting for you.

Or maybe it’s the jabs.
 
Slippery Pete said:
Haven’t popped any pills. Didn’t need to.

I had the virus about three years ago, recovered from it, and lived happily ever after.

Like you would have.

The fact that you know this is true, and are going to live the rest of your life in denial about it, is absolutely hilarious. And sad.

But please, do continue to inject that substance into yourself unnecessarily.
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Slippery Pete said:
A healthy young person not taking an experimental “vaccine” does not = cleansing the world of the weak and vulnerable. Neither in theory nor practice.

Another thing you are pretending not to know.

Must be exhausting for you.

Or maybe it’s the jabs.
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My wife and I and our kids have been knocked about by both flu and COVID previously as have I'm sure many other otherwise fit and healthy people. We were symptomatic enough to miss a week of work/school, kids birthday parties, weddings, etc. Of course unlikely that either infection was going to kill us (kids young enough for hospitalisation to be a concern), but also wasn’t particularly pleasant, and a massive inconvenience for all of us.

As with most health workers I’ve been getting vaccinated against flu annually before, during, and after the pandemic to reduce the likelihood of getting severely unwell, and the inconvenience of needing to take time off.

I'm quite happy applying the same logic to COVID. You're welcome to do what you like.

Your overarching approach to COVID in 2020-22 pre-vaccine rollout was to cease all prevention measures and let it rip through an unvaccinated population.

We know definitively from real world data in other countries that this would have resulted in the premature deaths of thousands of Australians, crippling of our healthcare system, and far greater damage to our economy. People under 65 would have accounted for one third of deaths and over half of the life-years lost, and over half of hospital and ICU admissions.

You were not only happy with this outcome, you have spent literally years of your life foaming at the mouth in here on a daily basis that Australian governments didn't go down this path. The words narcissistic and deranged come to mind. What is hilarious and sad is just how much this continues to boil your piss 3-4 years later.
 
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You were not only happy with this outcome, you have spent literally years of your life foaming at the mouth in here on a daily basis that Australian governments didn't go down this path. The words narcissistic and deranged come to mind. What is hilarious and sad is just how much this continues to boil your piss 3-4 years later.
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Maybe that’s what they should call this report. The Piss-Boiling Report.

What is it that stops you from acknowledging the information below? Is it pride? Is it ego?

The only reason we still discuss this is because you won’t admit you were wrong.

And don’t give me the “mistakes were made, we’ll do better next time” bullshit. The below weren’t mistakes, they were sneering and scornful cruelties masquerading as medical advice, that have unequivocally been proven to have far-reaching consequences for the future of this country and trust in institutions.




www.afr.com

Heavy-handed COVID restrictions have destroyed trust in government

Many of the measures taken during COVID‑19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again, due to the lack of trust created by the heavy-handed response.
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In a report more scathing of the states than anticipated, the three-person inquiry panel slammed the approaches towards such issues as lockdowns, vaccine mandates, and school and border closures, saying they lacked transparency and compassion, and were often not evidence-based.

The review also found the post-pandemic inflation and house price crises were a consequence of the Reserve Bank of Australia cutting interest rates too hard, and the federal government spending too much by outlaying $213 billion in COVID-related assistance and stimulus measures.

The report said there were many reasons for the decrease in trust across jurisdictions, but key factors included the lack of transparency and evidence for decision-making, poor communication, the stringency and duration of restrictions, access to vaccines and inconsistent state and territory responses.

Vaccine mandates “had the biggest negative impact on trust” the report added.

“The combination of mandatory measures and the perception people had that they were unable to criticise or question government decisions and policies has contributed to non‑mandated vaccination rates falling to dangerously low levels.”

While different approaches across states and territories could be appropriate where local conditions or different population risk profiles demanded them, some differences were not easily explained, and no rationale was provided.”

In particular, states closed borders in a way that lacked “consistency and compassion in implementation”.

The inquiry also found that as the pandemic wore on, people felt the restrictive measures “became increasingly inappropriate over the long term and were too heavy‑handed and controlling”.

It questioned the decisions by the states to close schools, saying they were not based on sufficiently broad evidence and had a significant impact on students, teachers and families.

The report recommended avoiding school closures at all costs in future pandemics.
 
ADL9798 said:
Exactly. But I wasn’t the one roasting one party for it while making excuses for the other with religious devotion like they’re my favourite football team.



Haha. I give up.
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I hope that's a promise!!
 
Mutineer said:
Yeah what would Microsoft know, just some of the smartest people on the planet..

www.bbc.com

Three Mile Island nuclear site to reopen in Microsoft deal

The 1979 accident at Three Mile Island had cast a shadow on nuclear power in the US for decades.
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Yet you ignore most actual nuclear experts.... perhaps i should ask them advice on my Excel spreadsheets or MS Access lol.

Can't believe you actually believe Dutton is really serious & haven't worked out it's a diversionary tactic lol.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Yet you ignore most actual nuclear experts.... perhaps i should ask them advice on my Excel spreadsheets or MS Access lol.

Can't believe you actually believe Dutton is really serious & haven't worked out it's a diversionary tactic lol.
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You mean nuclear experts like Adrian Paterson?

CSIRO are not experts!!

 
Mutineer said:
You mean nuclear experts like Adrian Paterson?

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You always manage to find the minority view so called expert... but you already know this.

Anyone who is seriously in the know explains it's not economically viable nor would be ready anytime soon.

... yet you keep the delusion up lol.
 
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