Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Slippery Pete]

An interesting read -

Much of Australia enjoys the same Mediterranean climate as LA. When it comes to bushfires, that doesn’t bode well

It’s vital to understand how climate drivers played out before and during the LA wildfire emergency – because many Australian cities face the same climate risks.

theconversation.com

Let me guess, more climate change propaganda?

 

[Mutineer]

Both sides do it, not sure why you get so triggered by it.

It ain’t right at all but to get all upset over it, not worth the bother.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that premise but the Andrews Government came to power in 2014 inheriting a $22.3bn debt now projected out to $188bn by 2027-28 in this totally incompetent "former" treasurer's forecast, and I'd be betting it will be worse than that given he's never got it right ever in his decade long shitshow.

 

[Mutineer]

Let me guess, more climate change propaganda?

Of course afterall the Conversation is just another lefty online rag.

 

[Mutineer]

Let me guess, more climate change propaganda?

The witer's Linkedin CV LOL

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So how reliable is nuclear & how does it compare to other energy sources like Gas?

Peter Dutton’s “always on” nuclear power is about as reliable as wind and solar – during a renewables drought

New analysis finds modern nuclear power plants are, on balance, about as “always on” as wind and solar farms – if those wind and solar farms were in the midst of a very bad renewable en…

reneweconomy.com.au

 

[Mutineer]

The big problem with Hydrogen powered cars is the lack of refueling points in Australia. Last time I checked there were only a couple in Melbourne and 1 in Canberra.

Hydrogen powered cars - either ICE or fuel cell - have the advantage of quick refuelling, on par with petrol/diesel. They don't require lengthy stops, while the battery is recharged.

It's still very much an open question as to whether Hydrogen or battery EVs will win out, or even if we'll have a mix of vehicles on the road (as we have long had with petrol & diesel).

Then there's the question of how the Hydrogen is created, as this process requires a LOT of electricity. Hydrogen isn't very green if the electricity used to split H2 from O in water comes from coal generators.

Development seems to be moving ahead pretty quickly now re hydrogen engines....

JCB's Hydrogen Engine Gets Official Approval For Sale And Use

JCB has made history by becoming the first construction equipment company to develop a fully working hydrogen combustion engine!

myelectricsparks.com

 

[Vader]

Development seems to be moving ahead pretty quickly now re hydrogen engines....

JCB's Hydrogen Engine Gets Official Approval For Sale And Use

JCB has made history by becoming the first construction equipment company to develop a fully working hydrogen combustion engine!

myelectricsparks.com

Yeah, they were always coming from further back than battery EVs. Hopefully they're starting to make up ground now.

 

[kirky]

I don't think anyone would disagree with that premise but the Andrews Government came to power in 2014 inheriting a $22.3bn debt now projected out to $188bn by 2027-28 in this totally incompetent "former" treasurer's forecast, and I'd be betting it will be worse than that given he's never got it right ever in his decade long shitshow.

So you don’t think building things is a good thing with borrowed money?

I’m not making any judgements either way on Tim given I don’t follow Vic politics as close as you.

 

[kirky]

Of course afterall the Conversation is just another lefty online rag.

Normal response without bothering to critique stuff.

That is so you.

If you don’t think the climate in Adelaide and Perth has changed over the past 50 years, I’ve got a good bridge to sell to you.

And there is a difference between climate and weather for any dumbarses out there.

 

[kirky]

So how reliable is nuclear & how does it compare to other energy sources like Gas?

Peter Dutton’s “always on” nuclear power is about as reliable as wind and solar – during a renewables drought

New analysis finds modern nuclear power plants are, on balance, about as “always on” as wind and solar farms – if those wind and solar farms were in the midst of a very bad renewable en…

reneweconomy.com.au

One can gather what his response will be to this would be.

Leftist website would be high in the bingo card.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So you don’t think building things is a good thing with borrowed money?

I’m not making any judgements either way on Tim given I don’t follow Vic politics as close as you.

The issue as an outsider is not so much building things, but being smart about spending as the Victorians have gone into far more debt per capita than other states.

No issue with governments going into debt for capital projects, but they need to be sensible about it. Eg. I don't think $32K per household for Nuclear is sensible, just as plenty of Victorian projects have been wasteful like the commonwealth games.

 

[Mutineer]

One can gather what his response will be to this would be.

Leftist website would be high in the bingo card.

Good to see you recognise the obvious...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nice of Palmer to suggest Australians should be more compassionate...

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/clive-palmer-questioned-over-human-compassion/video/ef1ba4cf9dc7e6cd65680fb017e65f6c

Does this mean he is going to finally pay up on all his debts (which he could easily do if he didn't piss money up against the wall with his ads)

Clive Palmer won't have to pay last $100m in QNI debts

Businessman will not have to pay the remaining $102 million that liquidators were pursuing him for over the $200 million collapse of Queensland Nickel.

www.afr.com

Palmer says he is not responsible for paying redundant workers' entitlements

Clive Palmer says he is not personally responsible for paying out the entitlements of Queensland Nickel workers made redundant before the company went into voluntary administration.

www.abc.net.au

 

[kirky]

Good to see you recognise the obvious...

You would classify it as leftist, I certainly don’t.

 

[kirky]

Nice of Palmer to suggest Australians should be more compassionate...

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/clive-palmer-questioned-over-human-compassion/video/ef1ba4cf9dc7e6cd65680fb017e65f6c

Does this mean he is going to finally pay up on all his debts (which he could easily do if he didn't piss money up against the wall with his ads)

Clive Palmer won't have to pay last $100m in QNI debts

Businessman will not have to pay the remaining $102 million that liquidators were pursuing him for over the $200 million collapse of Queensland Nickel.

www.afr.com

Palmer says he is not responsible for paying redundant workers' entitlements

Clive Palmer says he is not personally responsible for paying out the entitlements of Queensland Nickel workers made redundant before the company went into voluntary administration.

www.abc.net.au

Doubt he would pay up, he is just another grifter.

 

[Doctor B]

Nice of Palmer to suggest Australians should be more compassionate...

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/clive-palmer-questioned-over-human-compassion/video/ef1ba4cf9dc7e6cd65680fb017e65f6c

Does this mean he is going to finally pay up on all his debts (which he could easily do if he didn't piss money up against the wall with his ads)

Clive Palmer won't have to pay last $100m in QNI debts

Businessman will not have to pay the remaining $102 million that liquidators were pursuing him for over the $200 million collapse of Queensland Nickel.

www.afr.com

Palmer says he is not responsible for paying redundant workers' entitlements

Clive Palmer says he is not personally responsible for paying out the entitlements of Queensland Nickel workers made redundant before the company went into voluntary administration.

www.abc.net.au

Clive Palmer applies to trademark ‘teal’ and ‘Clive and Pauline Party’

A spokesperson for the billionaire declined to comment on why the applications had been made, and Pauline Hanson’s One Nation denied there would be a merger.

www.smh.com.au

Billionaire Clive Palmer has applied to trademark the terms “teal” and “Clive and Pauline Party”

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Clive Palmer applies to trademark ‘teal’ and ‘Clive and Pauline Party’

A spokesperson for the billionaire declined to comment on why the applications had been made, and Pauline Hanson’s One Nation denied there would be a merger.

www.smh.com.au

Billionaire Clive Palmer has applied to trademark the terms “teal” and “Clive and Pauline Party”

That will please Bicks.

The new teals...

 

[kirky]

That will please Bicks.

The new teals...

The only problem is those that vote for the Teals are probably better educated and more knowledgeable than those that would vote for Palmer and Hanson. And of course, Hansonites and Palmernites aren’t racist at all.

 

[adelaidecrows]

The only problem is those that vote for the Teals are probably better educated and more knowledgeable than those that would vote for Palmer and Hanson. And of course, Hansonites and Palmernites aren’t racist at all.

The teals highlight the problem with the modern LNP. The NP in particular went too far right in the last election dragging the LP with them and the teals capitalised by winning the moderate vote.

As I recall a lot of right wing media blamed voters for this like the voters should somehow just follow the LNP through all their policies and just vote for them. But my argument is its up to the party to win your vote, hence the whole pre election policies discussions. The LNP were a bunch of imbeciles at the last election and got what they deserved. And what utter arrogance to blame the voters because they ignored a section of their party.