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Bali bomb
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Youre a dead set ****wit.
Id be happy if you didnt live in the western world seeing you can so clearly see everyones point of view, maybe youd be happier under some opressive regime somewhere.
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About 150 more dead?
In separate incidents. Combined, the bombings in Israel would account for a lot more. BTW, I'm not saying 1 is worse than another. Terrorism is the same whether 1 person is killed or 1000
How did you conclude he was a ******* from his statement?
I have been in this position before. Last year when September 11 happened, I had a trip booked to New York for November.
The day after the tragedy everyone was telling me to cancel my trip and I thought about it.
I decided to wait it out and see what the dangers were closer to the date.
In the end I went and I am so happy I did.
I suggest you leave it a couple of months and let the air clear before you decide whether or not to take your holiday. As strange as it may seem now, in a couple of months you many feel confident that its safe again.
Don't let terrorism win.
I don't dispute that at all. What I do disagree with is the tarring of all Muslims as having the same attitudes towards the West as the fundamentalists.
By the way, there is an Islamic nation that operates as a secular democracy. It views itself as forward looking, has strong ties to the United States and is doing all it can to join the European Union. That country is Turkey.
I brought up the example of the IRA because you insist on calling the terrorists Islamic terrorists and I pointed out that we never called the IRA terrorists, Irish terrorists.
Also, you also posted saying that terrorism is terrorism no matter what. So why are you splitting hairs over terrorism committed by the IRA and those committed by the Islamic fundamentalists?
Actually, I'm of the view that if they want to set up Islamic states in their countries, then let them do so. In about 25 years time, the people will become thoroughly sick of living by the strict dictates of the Koran and they will eventually start to liberalise. That is what is happening in Iran - as the old clerics start to die off, the general population is starting to adopt a more modern outlook to life. Give them another 25 years and it might even become a great place to visit. But I doubt this will happen - there will be the usual fear of having Islamic nations around the globe and nobody wants to wait 25 or more years to see things slowly evolve.
If Australia had been discovered by the French, would our food be even better than it already is? You have to love a pointless hypothetical to reinforce a fear campaign.
Two words: **** you.
Not in the mood to debate with morons tonight.
Well what do you say when things like this happen? Its similar to the day after September 11 - no less than 12 hours after the first tower was fit people had already started laying the blame and pointing the fingers. 13 months down the track, have we caught the main perpetrator? Why should this situation be any different?
Leave the Islamic community alone, its unfair to keep blaming Islam and tarnishing all Muslims with one brush. To actually carry out these activities you would have to have a few screws loose in the head - think back to Timothy McVeigh - what would have happened if the whole world started jumping up and down screaming "those friggen Christians, kill them all blah blah blah".
It is easy to become naive and make insinuations about what happens behind closed political doors. For a county who 100 years ago prided themselves on their "isolationalist" foreign policy, America certainly has its fingers in a lot of pies. And to boot, they are not very good at practicing what they are preaching. How can you expect Palestine and Israel to stop fighting each other if you launch a war on Afganistan?
Mind you, even if we didn't stand behind America on the issue of the war against terror, I don't think it would have made any difference - it certainly wasn't the case for other nationalities that lost casualties on the weekend. I dont think Australia was the specific target - I think it must have been a general hit out against the West. But who knows? we may never know. Whatever the case, we need America more than America needs us, and it is possibly the case that even if our pollies don't advocate a war on terror, they opt to back America as an insurance policy just in case Australia does come under attack.
Lets hope we dont stoop to petty revenge, killing the perpetrators is not the answer - they should be made to live and suffer the consequences of their actions. (In an Indonesian jail no less, couldn't think of a more fitting place to put them)
Leave the Islamic community alone, its unfair to keep blaming Islam and tarnishing all Muslims with one brush. To actually carry out these activities you would have to have a few screws loose in the head - think back to Timothy McVeigh - what would have happened if the whole world started jumping up and down screaming "those friggen Christians, kill them all blah blah blah".
It is easy to become naive and make insinuations about what happens behind closed political doors. For a county who 100 years ago prided themselves on their "isolationalist" foreign policy, America certainly has its fingers in a lot of pies. And to boot, they are not very good at practicing what they are preaching. How can you expect Palestine and Israel to stop fighting each other if you launch a war on Afganistan?
Mind you, even if we didn't stand behind America on the issue of the war against terror, I don't think it would have made any difference - it certainly wasn't the case for other nationalities that lost casualties on the weekend. I dont think Australia was the specific target - I think it must have been a general hit out against the West. But who knows? we may never know. Whatever the case, we need America more than America needs us, and it is possibly the case that even if our pollies don't advocate a war on terror, they opt to back America as an insurance policy just in case Australia does come under attack.
Lets hope we dont stoop to petty revenge, killing the perpetrators is not the answer - they should be made to live and suffer the consequences of their actions. (In an Indonesian jail no less, couldn't think of a more fitting place to put them)
hourn asks, Did we bring it on ourselves??
REPEAT........NO & it is perposterous to even consider it with my condolances going out to ALL victims & families of this barbaric attack as once again we have a Mass Murder on our hands.
Terrorism is world wide & the attack was not necessarily targeted at us but, a sad fact of life is that it is certainly getting closer to Australia which in itself is disturbing enough.
Bali is not part of Australia but is certainly close enough to be & with many of our Intelligence people heading there, let's hope they help gather enough evidence to find these animals & hopefully find/infiltrate the terrorism network responsible and bring these ******* to justice.
With sadness,
Evan
REPEAT........NO & it is perposterous to even consider it with my condolances going out to ALL victims & families of this barbaric attack as once again we have a Mass Murder on our hands.
Terrorism is world wide & the attack was not necessarily targeted at us but, a sad fact of life is that it is certainly getting closer to Australia which in itself is disturbing enough.
Bali is not part of Australia but is certainly close enough to be & with many of our Intelligence people heading there, let's hope they help gather enough evidence to find these animals & hopefully find/infiltrate the terrorism network responsible and bring these ******* to justice.
With sadness,
Evan
REPEAT..........Just heard it was 2 suicide bombers, surely more than 2 people could concoct or knew about such a huge bomb.
They're saying that 220 Aussies are still missing.
Apparently there are something like 20,000 Aussie tourists in Bali.
In sadness,
Evan
They're saying that 220 Aussies are still missing.
Apparently there are something like 20,000 Aussie tourists in Bali.
In sadness,
Evan
Whos tarred all muslims with the same brush, obviously there not all terrorists but IMO they have a lot of sympathisers within the muslim communities ( palestinians having a big street party when the trade towers got hit..... for example )
All i have said is that they are islamic terrorists, that is fact, they commit acts of terror in the name of islam.
I dont know you and i dont know your age and you come across as fairly intelligent but IMO a bit naive in the ways of the world. These people have to be hunted down and killed they are fanatical brainwashed lunatics.
Can we please start posting/transfering all future Bali information/comments/posts to the main 'Bali Bomb' thread which ensures continuity which may help anybody who is directly/indirectly involved with approximately 200 (possibly Australian) people missing.
With sadness,
Evan
With sadness,
Evan
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People writing on these boards have lost loved ones and u post insinuating crap like that. Have u no compassion.
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My heart goes out to the friends and families of loved ones still missing. I can not comprehend what that must feel like.
I went to Indonesia in 99. I went to Java aswell as Bali. The people of Java loved Australians. You would walk down the street and they would scream, 'Austarli' waving thumbs. Quite frankly, I became quite sick of getting treated like royalty by these beautiful people. One day I said, nope I'm American, just wanting to see their reaction. I can tell you the guy that I lied to wasn't happy. It was as if I followed his happy fun loving Australi greeting with me telling him where to go. It was obvious than, the people of java loved Australians, but not Americans. Maybe this had to do with forein policy. Than, Australia had a great relationship with indonesia. Howard's ****ed everything up with his arse-licking to that of America.
I hate the terrorists. I have no trust in the leaders in the western world.
How can the scum justify slaughtering hundreds of fun loving Aussies/westerners/balinese/ innocent people in a bar. I know theres a cause. But nothing justify's that. Just like an attack on Iraq can't be justified. It takes a stronger person to vow for peace.
So my stance will be to go to those peace marches, boycott anything American, and to not by the tabloids. I hope I'm not the only one taking this cause of action. An attack on Iraq will leave thousands upon thousands of innocent Iraqies dead, that had as much of a right to life as the victims of Bali and S11. Choose life, not war.
I went to Indonesia in 99. I went to Java aswell as Bali. The people of Java loved Australians. You would walk down the street and they would scream, 'Austarli' waving thumbs. Quite frankly, I became quite sick of getting treated like royalty by these beautiful people. One day I said, nope I'm American, just wanting to see their reaction. I can tell you the guy that I lied to wasn't happy. It was as if I followed his happy fun loving Australi greeting with me telling him where to go. It was obvious than, the people of java loved Australians, but not Americans. Maybe this had to do with forein policy. Than, Australia had a great relationship with indonesia. Howard's ****ed everything up with his arse-licking to that of America.
I hate the terrorists. I have no trust in the leaders in the western world.
How can the scum justify slaughtering hundreds of fun loving Aussies/westerners/balinese/ innocent people in a bar. I know theres a cause. But nothing justify's that. Just like an attack on Iraq can't be justified. It takes a stronger person to vow for peace.
So my stance will be to go to those peace marches, boycott anything American, and to not by the tabloids. I hope I'm not the only one taking this cause of action. An attack on Iraq will leave thousands upon thousands of innocent Iraqies dead, that had as much of a right to life as the victims of Bali and S11. Choose life, not war.
In the same way that John Howard does not speak for me, I am sure that Saddam Hussein does not speak for many Iraqis. They do not deserve to suffer for the actions of their leaders.
3000 Americans died in the Sept 11 attacks last year, they didn't deserve it, yet more than that number of Afghani civilians have died in the retalliation, did they deserve it?
This street party you refer to Phil isnt the infamous CNN vision of palestinians burning a US flag etc, shown straight after the terrorist incidents in NY and DC last year, events that were actually recorded many months previously, but repeated during the coverage of said events by CNN without any note that the vision in question was related to a completely different event?
This has yet to be proven. I lived in the US when Oklahoma City terrorist incident occured....it certainly pays not to jump to conclusions regarding this.
I'd reckon many people would say the same to you Phil. Make sure you hunt down and kill the right brainwashed fanatics now, don't go killing other 'innocents' and create martyrs for the other brainwashed fanatical lunatics to use to recruit even more fanatical brainwashed lunatics that will carry out fanatical lunatic brainwashed terrorist attacks.
yeah okay
All of that was covered by London Dave and my previous posts. Not sure why you're asking the same questions again.
For someone who knows so much more about the world than naive little me, I'm a bit disappointed that you haven't felt the need to comment about my points about Turkey being a secular Islamic nation.
As they should be. But as London Dave pointed out, do this properly or you'll just end up creating more violence.
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There are some idiots in this world and it is a real pity that they do such a thing. They don't know wtf killing people does to countries, families and Governments.
This is war started by Osama Bin Laden and if he wants to do this then he should be kidding himself.
If there is going to be a war let's get behind it and get the bastards who did this.
This is war started by Osama Bin Laden and if he wants to do this then he should be kidding himself.
If there is going to be a war let's get behind it and get the bastards who did this.
