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No use talking about Sunbury Coaching, Serge deserves it and has it for another 2 yrs I believe also. Word has it Darley job will come down to a decision from one person, and that is the current coach Matt Power. he will determine his own fate, players support him, one thing to say that he cant get them to another level, but as you all know, you need the cattle, and he aint had the cattle, has finished 3rd and 4th last two years and this year with near on 8 senior players out a week, to be sitting 4th at the minute, sensational effort, getting most out of his players available. Pulled off a total rebuild and still a very young list.
Thomas gone, Payne in?? Tough on Thomas, has results on the board!!
 
Jarman03 said:
No use talking about Sunbury Coaching, Serge deserves it and has it for another 2 yrs I believe also. Word has it Darley job will come down to a decision from one person, and that is the current coach Matt Power. he will determine his own fate, players support him, one thing to say that he cant get them to another level, but as you all know, you need the cattle, and he aint had the cattle, has finished 3rd and 4th last two years and this year with near on 8 senior players out a week, to be sitting 4th at the minute, sensational effort, getting most out of his players available. Pulled off a total rebuild and still a very young list.
Thomas gone, Payne in?? Tough on Thomas, has results on the board!!

Not saying MAtt Powell isnt a good coach, but he has been there for a few years now, and a new lease of life may be needed... Is Keenan Reynolds likely to take over from him..???
Serge is great, and i love the way he plays, coaches and isnt shy about calling a spade a spade, but footy clubs want premierships, and sunbury have been the biggest chokers over the past 4 years. They pay BIG $$$ and just havnt seen the rewards. If they cant beat Redan at home this week, then it will definantly be an East V Redan G/F. Sunbury are the 3rd best side...
 
learmonth said:
Not saying MAtt Powell isnt a good coach, but he has been there for a few years now, and a new lease of life may be needed... Is Keenan Reynolds likely to take over from him..???
Serge is great, and i love the way he plays, coaches and isnt shy about calling a spade a spade, but footy clubs want premierships, and sunbury have been the biggest chokers over the past 4 years. They pay BIG $$$ and just havnt seen the rewards. If they cant beat Redan at home this week, then it will definantly be an East V Redan G/F. Sunbury are the 3rd best side...

Chokers?? Have you seen any of the Grand Finals?

02 - The 1st year Redan won was Ok

03 - Serge got a red card in the 1st 5 minutes for nothing - he was
cleared at the tribunal! Sunbury played with 17 men all game and lead at 3/4 time but got ran over the top off.

04 - They won the flag

05 - Melton - another red card discgrace with the best CHB in the comp red carded for nothing again - he got 1 week but that was beacuse of a new rule that a red card is automatic 1 week. So in other words he was cleared as well.
Also if you did not see the game get a copy and watch the third quarter when Sunbury got on a roll - the ump decides to hand out 4 50 metre penalties all resulting in goals but not one was worthy of 50.

How the umps can hand out red crads in a Grand Final for trival offeneces is beyond me. A king hit that knocks a bloke out should be the only reason.
 

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learmonth said:
Not saying MAtt Powell isnt a good coach, but he has been there for a few years now, and a new lease of life may be needed... Is Keenan Reynolds likely to take over from him..???
Serge is great, and i love the way he plays, coaches and isnt shy about calling a spade a spade, but footy clubs want premierships, and sunbury have been the biggest chokers over the past 4 years. They pay BIG $$$ and just havnt seen the rewards. If they cant beat Redan at home this week, then it will definantly be an East V Redan G/F. Sunbury are the 3rd best side...

Also the $$ tag a has been handed to Redan and East Point.

Sunbury only have 2 non-local players that play for them.

Redan 5 ex VFL players - East Point - Jodan boys.

Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.
 
Kings Army said:
Also the $$ tag a has been handed to Redan and East Point.

Sunbury only have 2 non-local players that play for them.

Redan 5 ex VFL players - East Point - Jodan boys.

Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.

What would you know KA ya jerk off!
 
Kings Army said:
Also the $$ tag a has been handed to Redan and East Point.

Sunbury only have 2 non-local players that play for them.

Redan 5 ex VFL players - East Point - Jodan boys.

Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.
Would love to see on of Powers boys smack snibson, big red headed freak. although he can play, but hope for interest sake redan and sunbury get through, due to the fact that east point are just trying to buy a premiership and anyone that says any different is off their head. Jordan will be worth a mint next year in vic country football and with shane robertson leaving hepburn dont be suprised if they throw a truck load at him to coach there next year.
 
Warren said:
What would you know KA ya jerk off!

Here he is again the 40 year old f uckwit! Adding no value - as per my post on the Bendigo thread it may be time to finally pull the trigger Wassa! I know you want to and I do think it is for the best.
 
From what I have been told over the years.
Sunbury = dirty thugs and Serge = Sniper.
Maybe thats why when it has come to grand finals they haven't had the best treatment.
A couple of years ago I know many people in the league thought they should have been kicked out for the way they acted on and off the field.
 
Kings Army said:
Chokers?? Have you seen any of the Grand Finals?

02 - The 1st year Redan won was Ok

03 - Serge got a red card in the 1st 5 minutes for nothing - he was
cleared at the tribunal! Sunbury played with 17 men all game and lead at 3/4 time but got ran over the top off.

04 - They won the flag

05 - Melton - another red card discgrace with the best CHB in the comp red carded for nothing again - he got 1 week but that was beacuse of a new rule that a red card is automatic 1 week. So in other words he was cleared as well.
Also if you did not see the game get a copy and watch the third quarter when Sunbury got on a roll - the ump decides to hand out 4 50 metre penalties all resulting in goals but not one was worthy of 50.

How the umps can hand out red crads in a Grand Final for trival offeneces is beyond me. A king hit that knocks a bloke out should be the only reason.

Having watched all those Grand Finals, i tend to disagree with you. Sunbury believe they have a rule to themselves and dont understand the spirit of the game. That comes from the culture of the club, which desperately needs to be changed.

03- Serge got sent of for kneeing Kenneddy, then lupson decided to try and jump the fence after he cowardly attacked a player. Tough players win the hard ball, not hit players. Discipline cost them the flag, as they were clearly the best side

04- Stillclearly the best side in the comp

05- Allan O'Connor- What a stupid thing to do- kneed Grenville whilst he was on the ground injured- Didnt think it was worth a red card, but the rule states any misconduct which kneeing comes under can receive a red card. Umpire should have given him a yellow. Umpires dont decide games, they make mistakes, but the best team will always win- Thats a cop out, and Melton were clearly the better side. Good to see Sunbury got rid of Gadsen.. What a waste of space and front runner he was.. Sooked everytime he had to compete.. just wanted it all on a silver plate.

This comes from an independent person, who has played in the BFL and all those Finals series....
 
learmonth said:
Having watched all those Grand Finals, i tend to disagree with you. Sunbury believe they have a rule to themselves and dont understand the spirit of the game. That comes from the culture of the club, which desperately needs to be changed.

03- Serge got sent of for kneeing Kenneddy, then lupson decided to try and jump the fence after he cowardly attacked a player. Tough players win the hard ball, not hit players. Discipline cost them the flag, as they were clearly the best side

04- Stillclearly the best side in the comp

05- Allan O'Connor- What a stupid thing to do- kneed Grenville whilst he was on the ground injured- Didnt think it was worth a red card, but the rule states any misconduct which kneeing comes under can receive a red card. Umpire should have given him a yellow. Umpires dont decide games, they make mistakes, but the best team will always win- Thats a cop out, and Melton were clearly the better side. Good to see Sunbury got rid of Gadsen.. What a waste of space and front runner he was.. Sooked everytime he had to compete.. just wanted it all on a silver plate.

This comes from an independent person, who has played in the BFL and all those Finals series....

How do the 2 people who get red carded get 1 and 0 weeks? Both were not red cards.

Melton the better side? Sunbury were 16-0 last year and Melton finish 4th. Very Very lucky!!
 
Kings Army said:
How do the 2 people who get red carded get 1 and 0 weeks? Both were not red cards.

Melton the better side? Sunbury were 16-0 last year and Melton finish 4th. Very Very lucky!!

Sunbury have always ran forward of the ball and look good when things are going there way. When u keep belting sides week in week out like they have, u develop bad habits, and as soon as a bit of pressure is applied they faulter. Finals football is different to home and away games, and if they concentrated on discilpine footy like Redan (Never the best side, but have 2 flags & 1 Flag for Melton) they would be better off. As i say the culture off the club needs to change. No use Belting Bacchus marsh by 35 goals, it would be smarter to play people in different positions so that when the crunch comes around finals time, there back line has had a sniff.
Thats why i think Sunbury are a better chance this year of winning the finals then the last few...
 
Kings Army said:
Also the $$ tag a has been handed to Redan and East Point.

Sunbury only have 2 non-local players that play for them.

Redan 5 ex VFL players - East Point - Jodan boys.

Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.

The 5 ex VFL boys that play for Redan are all ballarat boys that are playing with their mates. They are not ring ins or non locals so dont whinge just because they played VFL. Smart footballers. Not sure what is wrong with the way snibson plays footy. Tough player and i thought that sunbury are hard at the ball as per your previous grand final comments??? Why would we look before the first bounce?

Same with East Point and their only non locals are the Jordan boys. Just good gets and great recruiting.
 
learmonth said:
Not saying MAtt Powell isnt a good coach, but he has been there for a few years now, and a new lease of life may be needed... Is Keenan Reynolds likely to take over from him..???

Obviosuly have no inside knowledge at the Devils "Learmonth".

as any afl coach would say it takes approx 5 years to build a genuine premiership contender. Power has been there 4 and witha great young list so expectations would be much higher next year. He will coach on and get the rewards he deserves.
 

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Ballarat FL boys shine in VCFL Australian title win !

Report by BFL CEO Rod Ward who attended the ACFC Carnival:
It was an amazing privilege to attend the 2006 Australian Country Football Championships last weekend on the Gold Coast, and to see the VCFL side get home in the most amazing set of circumstances you will ever see over the ACT in Sundays Grand Final.

If I watch football for another 50 years I doubt I will see a more dramatic end to any game, let alone a State V State Grand Final with the Australian title on the line !

For those who have not heard by now, the Vic?s were 5 points down with less than 20seconds on the clock when an ACT player had a shot from 3 metres out ? we all thought for sure it was a goal and it was all over ? only to see the Goal Umpire signal touched after a late dive by Leigh Gathercole (Sunraysia FL) saw him get the faintest touch on the ball. From the kick out the Vics got a free kick and 50m penalty. Joe McLaren (Koroit FC) then unleashed a torpedo with 1 second remaining, from well inside the centre square the huge crowd watched in amazement as it sailed through by a good 10metre (making it approx 70 ? 80m kick) to tie the game and force extra time.

BFL reps Brendan Porter and ?DJ? Jordan then both took big marks and goaled in extra time and the title of Australian Country Champions was ours !

The result on Sunday was the culmination of a month of hard training and 3 days of tough football by a committed and dedicated bunch of 24 players, who were superbly led by Coach Leigh Colbert and his Assistants Anthony Stevens, Craig Sholl and Stephen Reaper. I am thrilled to advise that all 4 BFL representatives Dan Jordan (East Point FC), Ryan Waight (Redan FC), Nathan Blomeley (Redan FC) and Brendan Porter (Melton FC) performed superbly, and represented themselves, their families, their State, Club and the BFL with distinction.

I am further delighted to report that Ryan Waight (Redan FC) and Brendan Porter (Melton FC) were selected n the 22 man ?All Australian? side at the post carnival official dinner which is a huge honour.

Ryan Waight played every min of every game in the back pocket and was part of very settled and effecive back 6. He had a sweeping role and played consistent football across all 4 games, and provided a great deal of drive out of defence for the Vic?s. Waighty was mentioned in the best twice, and talent scouts were amazed by his aerial ability and his courage running against the flight of the ball when on several occasions he put his body on the line to take big grabs or to effect a spoil.

Dan ?DJ? Jordan booted 5 goals for the Carnival, including 3 in the Grand Final and a match winner in extra time. He thrilled the crowd with several big grabs, including a ?screamer? against NSW on the Saturday which was Mark of the Day. It was a tough day for forwards on the Friday playing at Cararra in the wettest and worst conditions I have witnessed after a tropical storm had the ground under water, but DJ stood tall when the Vics needed him most and was a real focal point.

Likewise Nathan Blomeley provided the inspiration when needed with 3 goals in the Carnival and 2 in the Grand Final which were pivotal in the Vics win. Blommers thrilled the crowd with his pace and long kicking, and ?a moment of magic? in the Grand Final when he ran down an ACT defender and goaled got the Vics up & running and there is no doubt that his name was penciled in the books of several talent scouts !

Brendan Porter was superb and covered more ground than most as a leading forward and key focal point for his side. Ports was best for the Vics against the ACT on the Friday, and then returned to haunt them on the Sunday in the Grand Final where his 4 goals and aerial supremacy proved to be the catalyst for the Vics win.

All 4 BFL players will go on to play approx 300+ games of football over the length of their career, and it is unlikely they will remember all of those games - but there is no doubt that they will remember their 4 days on the Gold Coast for the 2006 ACFC, and the incredible climax at Southport which saw them crowned Australian Champions for the rest of their lives. Well done boys on a remarkable achievement !

It is also worth pointing out former Redan player Keirnan Molloy (Skipton FC) starred for the Vic District side across the carnival in Division 2, and former Redan FC team mates Scott Easdown and Matthew Walsh also representing the Qld side in Division 2 - with Walshy booting 7 on the Sunday in the Qld win over the New Zealand National side.

Match results for the Vics 4 games, along with the results of the Div 2 Grand Final (where the Vic District side defeated the Aboriginal All Stars) follow:

Grand Final Results:
Grand Finals at Southport

Division 1 Australian Capital Territory v Victoria (1)
Vic (1) 6.2 9.4 12.7 19.10 (124)
ACT 2.7 9.10 13.12 14.16 (100)
Goals: Vic (1): B Porter J McLaren 4 C Ednie D Jordan 3 N Blomeley 2 M Dillon M Forys M Pendergast 1. ACT: L Ellis 4 N Clarke B Knowles 2 M Trew B Neely L Jeffrey J Jennings L McMahon B Collins 1.
Beat: Vic (1): T Brown J McLaren C Ednie L Saunders B Porter. ACT: B Neely J Stiller R Plant J Bennett B Collins.

Scores were level at full time 5 minutes each way was played to get a result.

Division 2 Victoria (2) v Aboriginal All Stars
Vic (2) 2.4 7.7 11.10 20.12 (132)
All Stars 2.4 5.7 8.10 9.14 (68)
Goals: Vic (2): C Tate K Molloy 4 B Anthony M Peake J Hollmer 2 S Parsons N Mcnally L Moss J Fastuca B Henderson A Morris. All Stars: D Newchurch 3 C Calyun J Scrymgour M Brown B Kariouz C Hayden N Harrison 1
Best: Vic (2): L Moss C Tate N McNally A Morris M Peake. All Stars: C Maher S Childs B Goodes J Scrymgour B Karious


New South Wales v Victoria (1)
NSW 2.1 2.3 (15)
Vic (1) 3.2 6.4 (40)
Goals: Vic (1): C Ednie 3 L Saunders D Jordan N Bromeley 1. NSW: A Dohnt 2.
Best: Vic (1): R Clark C Clarke R Waight R Funke C Eddie K Niklaus.
NSW: K Stephens C McPherson A Dohnt A Donaldson A Darling.

West Australia v Victoria (1)
WA 2.0 4.2 (26)
Vic (1) 3.4 5.4 (34)
Goals: Vic (1): M Forys D Jordan T Brown B Armstrong L Saunders 1. WA: B Roberts B Johnson M Sprigg J Klumpp 1
Bets: Vic (1): C Jones C Bauer K Niklaus P Brown R Clark. WA: J McRae J Sprigg C Sheehan R Mott M Sherry.

Australian Capital Territory v Victoria (1)
ACT 1.0 3.5 (23)
Vic (1) 2.2 2.3 (15)
Goals: ACT: L Ellis J Myles J Bennett 1. Vic (1) B Porter R Funcke 1
Best: ACT: J Benett J Stiller D Jaques N Clarke L McMahon. Vic (1): R Waight B Porter C Clarke T Brown R Funcke.




All - Australian Country Team announced
1.NATHAN CLARKE ACT
2. BRETT KNOWLES ACT
3. LEIGH MCMAHON ACT
4. JAKE MYLES ACT
5. DANIEL JACQUES ACT
6. BILLY NEELY ACT
7. CHARLIE MAHER ALL STARS
8. MATT WALDER NSW
9. KADE STEVENS NSW
10.WADE DICKSON NSW
11. MARK LYNCH QLD
12. TONY BROWN VIC 1
13. BRENDAN PORTER VIC 1
14. LUKE SAUNDERS VIC 1
15. CRAIG EDNIE VIC 1
16. RYAN WAIGHT VIC 1
17. CRAIG CLARKE VIC 1
18. JAMES MARCHESANI VIC 2
19. CAMERON TATE VIC 2
20. RICKY MOTT WA
21. JAMES MCRAE WA
22. JUSTIN SPRIGG WA
COACH ? LEIGH COLBERT VIC 1
 
This is a good discussion. I think what has to be kept in perspective, is yes it is terrific recruiting by both East and Redan, you have to use your connections and if your good enough to get the players and recruit them and keep them, you should be congratulated as obviously the club has a terrific culture and environment that the players enjoy.

Tell me though where Snibson, Field, Edwards, Murrihy, Blomely, Lubeek, Barker, Dwyer, Peace, Bridges, Jenkins, Giblett, Pitt, Dickinson, Reid, Jones, Giampaolo, Dru Quinlan, played their junior football? was it through the Redan Junior Football Club?

In their premiership years, where did Walsh, Molloy, Kennedy, Freeland, Ellis, Nunn, Partington play there junior football, was it the Redan Junior Football Club.

Twenty Five players named there, curious as to how many played through the Redan Junior Ranks.
 
Jarman03 said:
This is a good discussion. I think what has to be kept in perspective, is yes it is terrific recruiting by both East and Redan, you have to use your connections and if your good enough to get the players and recruit them and keep them, you should be congratulated as obviously the club has a terrific culture and environment that the players enjoy.

Tell me though where Snibson, Field, Edwards, Murrihy, Blomely, Lubeek, Barker, Dwyer, Peace, Bridges, Jenkins, Giblett, Pitt, Dickinson, Reid, Jones, Giampaolo, Dru Quinlan, played their junior football? was it through the Redan Junior Football Club?

In their premiership years, where did Walsh, Molloy, Kennedy, Freeland, Ellis, Nunn, Partington play there junior football, was it the Redan Junior Football Club.

Not one of those footballers played there junior footy through Redan, but as previously said, great recruiting.
Snibson- Sebas/Field-Avoca/Edwards/North/Murrihy-North/Blomely-Newlyn/ Lubeek-North/BArker-North/Dwyer-Albury area/Peace-Albury area/Bridges-North/Jenkins-Sebas/Giblett-North/Echuca/Pitt-??/Dickinson-??/ Reid-Port Fairy/Jones-North/Giampolo-Out of area/Dru Quinlan-North/

Walsh-Kyabram/Molloy-Skipton/Kennedy-Skipton/Freeland-Stawell/Ellis-Lansborough/ Partington- Golden Point/Nunn-North..

Not one player...... But thats life:thumbsu:


Twenty Five players named there, curious as to how many played through the Redan Junior Ranks.

Please read above
 
Vineyard said:
The 5 ex VFL boys that play for Redan are all ballarat boys that are playing with their mates. They are not ring ins or non locals so dont whinge just because they played VFL. Smart footballers. Not sure what is wrong with the way snibson plays footy. Tough player and i thought that sunbury are hard at the ball as per your previous grand final comments??? Why would we look before the first bounce?

Same with East Point and their only non locals are the Jordan boys. Just good gets and great recruiting.

Not whingeing - just point out a fact that Redan have spent up for this year. Interesting that none of the 25 players that Jarmen listed played juniors for Redan. Are you a Redan supporter - I have read your posts and cannot work out who you support:confused:
 
Kings Army said:
Not whingeing - just point out a fact that Redan have spent up for this year. Interesting that none of the 25 players that Jarmen listed played juniors for Redan. Are you a Redan supporter - I have read your posts and cannot work out who you support:confused:

No not a Redan Supporter, but i know all those guys pretty well, and have played with some before in inter-league. They are a very professional unit, and from what ive heard, that many of their star players are paying for minimal $$$ to win a flag together. If it happens this year, I believe that there could be a massiive walk out, as most of these players will go back to theor home club. i.e Field will coach Avoca- Edwards to Nth Ballarat (Bendigo league.) to coach. They will be back in the Ballarat football league within 5 years
 
Kings Army said:
Not whingeing - just point out a fact that Redan have spent up for this year. Interesting that none of the 25 players that Jarmen listed played juniors for Redan. Are you a Redan supporter - I have read your posts and cannot work out who you support:confused:

From what i understand, East-Point have many players who are not local either- Both Jordans (St. Bernards) Faull (Newlyn) Fisher (Lexton) McGuigan (Learmonth) Bones (Beaufort) Drum (???) Hutchison (Laker Wendouree) Geljon (YCW/Lakers) Kinnersly (Port Fairy) George (Not from area) Kent ( Not from area) Sheedy (Not from area) and im sure there's more. Also adding to this is that they took a weak option out and merged, and have two junior clubs to choose from, so u would expect them to be strong.
 
Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.[/quote]

Snibsen must log on to Big Footy - he has pulled out of Sunday's game!!:thumbsdown:

A couple of big outs for Redan - look for Sunbury to send a big message to the league this weekend!!!:thumbsu:
 
Kings Army said:
Word also is that Power hates the way Snibsen plays his footy so keep an eye on him before the 1st bounce.

Snibsen must log on to Big Footy - he has pulled out of Sunday's game!!:thumbsdown:

A couple of big outs for Redan - look for Sunbury to send a big message to the league this weekend!!!:thumbsu:[/quote]

Great mental disintegration on Snibbo Kings Army.

Would be good to see sunbury play a challenger instead of getting on the band wagon after beating the marsh, south & ballarat. A true test. Hope they smash them though.

And further to our group discussion. How many clubs in any country comp won a flag without a group of distinguished recruits who arent from that area.

All those guys from redan/east point have come from lower leagues to play in the best comp in the district and obviously work committments etc. Why would they play in a below standard comps in poor facilities and cant be bagging people for wanting to play with their mates.

Good clubs dont have players who leave their junior ranks. 90% of the darley seniors played juniors there. Scoble has connections through his father playing, Cape came back after playing juniors there, Miller the same. A couple of sunbury boys who came with Power and that is it.
 
Vineyard said:
Snibsen must log on to Big Footy - he has pulled out of Sunday's game!!:thumbsdown:

A couple of big outs for Redan - look for Sunbury to send a big message to the league this weekend!!!:thumbsu:

Great mental disintegration on Snibbo Kings Army.

Would be good to see sunbury play a challenger instead of getting on the band wagon after beating the marsh, south & ballarat. A true test. Hope they smash them though.

And further to our group discussion. How many clubs in any country comp won a flag without a group of distinguished recruits who arent from that area.





Gisborne - every player last year either went to school in Gisborne or played junior football there. The only player you could count as an outsider is Duff Tyler who moved to Gisborne 4 years ago.
 
where does the coach of sunbury get off saying redan has a suspect backline apart from snibson and lubeek in todays courier. matthew pitt is one of the most rock solid defenders ive ever seen. not to mention the likes of king, peace etc. does anyone else think redans backline is suspect or is it just that bloke?
 
My Shout said:
Went to school with Nath Blommely, was just wondering how he is going this year??

absolute gun. one of the best players in the bfl. made interleague for BFL side and represented vic country in winning side. will definitely be in the team of the year.

Could get drafted also
 
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