Battle of Brisbane 8-10 April: Broncos v Lions; NRL v AFL

[littleduck]

Friday April 8

NRL FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL
Penrith Panthers v Melbourne Storm
@ Penrith Stadium, Sydney
delayed coverage @ 8.50pm (after the Pope's funeral)
225,000 viewers (average)

Saturday April 9

AFL SATURDAY NIGHT
Brisbane Lions v Sydney Swans
@ Brisbane Cricket Ground, Brisbane
live and exclusive coverage
156,000 viewers (average)
(cf Starstruck 211,000)

Sunday April 10

AFL SUNDAY FOOTBALL
Adelaide Crows vs Port Adelaide Magpies
@ Football Park, Adelaide
92,000 viewers (average)

NRL SUNDAY FOOTBALL
Brisbane Broncos vs Parramatta Eels
@ Lang Park, Brisbane
live on Fox Sports @ 2.30pm
delayed on 9 @ 4pm (the rating quoted here)
251,000 viewers (average)

 

[thegezman]

thats not to bade for the AFL i would have thought.

thay would be pretty pleased with that i reckon

 

[Hurbie]

LD casts his line across the Pier again...Don't forget the Broncos match was shown on Fox Sports at 2:30.

 

[Pantsless]

I thought it was only a battle if they're up against each other?

According to Littleduck, the Battle of Waterloo took place over two days...

The British turned up one day but left cos no-one else was there.
The French turned up the next day.

 

[jacqui9]

Give up LittleGoose

AFL is and always will be the most popular spectator sport in Australia.

Go away and stop trying so hard

 

[Funkalicous]

Are those figures state wide? Country wide?

 

[littleduck]

I thought it was only a battle if they're up against each other?

According to Littleduck, the Battle of Waterloo took place over two days...

The British turned up one day but left cos no-one else was there.
The French turned up the next day.

It's always a battle and a wins a win regardless, but some battles are a fairer than others in terms of the live/delayed/replayed distinction and its only fair to put each audience figure in context.

 

[littleduck]

Are those figures state wide? Country wide?

Brisbane Metropolitan area.

 

[m0nty]

NRL SUNDAY FOOTBALL
Brisbane Broncos vs Parramatta Eels
@ Lang Park, Brisbane
Crowd: 25,843
Total crowd for 5 rounds: 129,306
Average crowd: 25,861

AFL SATURDAY NIGHT
Brisbane Lions v Sydney Swans
@ Brisbane Cricket Ground, Brisbane
Crowd: 33,960
Total crowd for 3 rounds: 102,221
Average crowd: 34,073

 

[Hicham]

Brisbane Broncos
Average crowd: 25,861

Seriously, why lie?

Average crowd: 31,350

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2005.html

 

[MickZu]

NRL SUNDAY FOOTBALL
Brisbane Broncos vs Parramatta Eels
@ Lang Park, Brisbane
Crowd: 25,843
Total crowd for 5 rounds: 129,306
Average crowd: 25,861

AFL SATURDAY NIGHT
Brisbane Lions v Sydney Swans
@ Brisbane Cricket Ground, Brisbane
Crowd: 33,960
Total crowd for 3 rounds: 102,221
Average crowd: 34,073

And this is the one that counts, Bronco's average will drop by years end, while the Lions will remain pretty much the same.

 

[m0nty]

Hicham, I was counting all games, not just home games. All truth.

 

[Hicham]

Hicham, I was counting all games, not just home games. All truth.

Apologies, I just realised that. But still, what have away game crowds got to do with popularity in Brisbane?

Hicham.

 

[m0nty]

If you look at the 2004 NRL attendance figures, they make for pitiful reading. Brisbane was the only team to average better than 20,000. If a SINGLE game of AFL (apart from those in Canberra or Launceston) got so few supporters, there'd be an outrage.

 

[m0nty]

Also Hicham, the numbers for Brisbane's NRL attendances in 2005 are bloated because of the game against the Cowboys. The Lions beat the Broncos last year for home game attendance by an average of just on 5,000 people.

 

[Hicham]

Also Hicham, the numbers for Brisbane's NRL attendances in 2005 are bloated because of the game against the Cowboys. The Lions beat the Broncos last year for home game attendance by an average of just on 5,000 people.

True, it was given a boost by the Cowboys, but why is that an issue? Cowboys games in recent years (given the Cowboys history of cellar dwelling) would be lucky to get 20-25,000 at ANZ Stadium. The Broncos have matches against Canterbury, Sydney, St.George/Illawarra and others to come, so it'll be boosted again. It's also made increases against the same games from last year so far this season. Brisbane crowds have been going up by an average of 4,000 a year for the past few years as they've finally left ANZ Stadium and gone back to Suncorp. Given the current results and the home draw ahead, Brisbane look odds on to continue that rate of increase IMO.

Hicham.

 

[Funkalicous]

The Brisbane Lions match should be 190,000 viewers considering some Brisbane residents went to the match, whereas they couldn't go to the Rugby League match the night before.

 

[m0nty]

Brisbane crowds have been going up by an average of 4,000 a year for the past few years as they've finally left ANZ Stadium and gone back to Suncorp. Given the current results and the home draw ahead, Brisbane look odds on to continue that rate of increase IMO.

The Lions' home crowds have also gone up by 8,000 over the past two years. The only limiting factor for the Lions is that the Gabba only holds 37,600, which they will probably average this year or next, and after the redevelopment is finished it will still hold only 42,000, whereas Suncorp was recently expanded to hold 52,000.

 

[MickZu]

True, it was given a boost by the Cowboys, but why is that an issue? Cowboys games in recent years (given the Cowboys history of cellar dwelling) would be lucky to get 20-25,000 at ANZ Stadium. The Broncos have matches against Canterbury, Sydney, St.George/Illawarra and others to come, so it'll be boosted again. It's also made increases against the same games from last year so far this season. Brisbane crowds have been going up by an average of 4,000 a year for the past few years as they've finally left ANZ Stadium and gone back to Suncorp. Given the current results and the home draw ahead, Brisbane look odds on to continue that rate of increase IMO.

Hicham.

Price of admission also has an influence on attendances eg: did you know that a gold class at Suncorp is about $43, a gold class at the Gabba is about $110. In general, a decent seat at Suncorp is cheaper and more affordable than a decent seat at the Gabba. The fact that the Gabba charges so much and they still get over 30 000 people amazes me !!

 

[Hicham]

The Brisbane Lions match should be 190,000 viewers considering some Brisbane residents went to the match, whereas they couldn't go to the Rugby League match the night before.

Err, the Broncos game was on Sunday. And it was in Brisbane. And it was perviously shown on Fox. So let's bump their total up to 275K and then some.

 

[Hicham]

The Lions' home crowds have also gone up by 8,000 over the past two years. The only limiting factor for the Lions is that the Gabba only holds 37,600, which they will probably average this year or next, and after the redevelopment is finished it will still hold only 42,000, whereas Suncorp was recently expanded to hold 52,000.

Agreed.

 

[Funkalicous]

Err, the Broncos game was on Sunday. And it was in Brisbane. And it was perviously shown on Fox. So let's bump their total up to 275K and then some.

I was comparing the Lions game to the Friday night NRL game.

 

[Funkalicous]

The Lions' home crowds have also gone up by 8,000 over the past two years. The only limiting factor for the Lions is that the Gabba only holds 37,600, which they will probably average this year or next, and after the redevelopment is finished it will still hold only 42,000, whereas Suncorp was recently expanded to hold 52,000.

I propose the Queensland governmant knockdown 'Movie World' and in it's place, build an 80k Football Stadium. Gold Coast Sharks and Brisbane Lions could play all their high drawing games there instead.

Works for me!

 

[m0nty]

The point about the relative cost of entry is a good one, the Lions must be doing much better financially compared to the Broncos. Of course, if the Lions do start getting capacity crowds of 42,000 at home games, that opens up the prospect of live TV coverage in Brisbane...

 

[Tiger666]

Give up LittleGoose

AFL is and always will be the most popular spectator sport in Australia.

Go away and stop trying so hard

Try living in Brisbane, or NSW for that matter. Going on free to air broadcasts, AFL is nothing. Up here I've even seen an AFL broadcast cut short (about 5 mins before the end of a live Port v Essendon game) so the thugby league could start on time. Not only is this an insult to AFL fans, it is a good indication of the popularity of league in these 2 states.
Might be the most popular sport in Australia, but not yet in Qld and NSW.